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MaverickPrime 17th Mar 2019 10:14


Originally Posted by cumulustratus (Post 10420799)
Edit: and also this thing about the UK branch having the worst conditions in an airline spread over Europe seems to be a recurring thing. Any of you UK guys ever stop to think about why that is, given you having among the highest costs of living?

My 2 cents would have something to do with Mrs. Thatcher...

....because most British are too polite and chivalrous for the their own good. We as a culture seem to take whatever crap is thrown at us a bit like the deal we've been handed by the EU. The Greeks for example didn't go so quietly, neither do the French i.e yellow vest or unions.

Meester proach 17th Mar 2019 16:30

Never join an airline of the promise of a quick command . Things change in a heart beat in this game. It seems to be a generation X thing .....this sense of entitlement to command.

Piscator 18th Mar 2019 00:15


Originally Posted by Meester proach (Post 10421600)
Never join an airline of the promise of a quick command . Things change in a heart beat in this game. It seems to be a generation X thing .....this sense of entitlement to command.

Agree completely.
Airlines can only make vague promises.
Carreers speed up or slow down due to the economy.
We had people flying as second officers for 8 years.
We’ve also had guys that got their longhaul command at age 34
I’m captain 777 (11 years) and 787 (3 years) for a major European legacy carrier.
Took me 18 years to get long haul command (at age 47) which I think is normal at a major airline.
After 10 years airforce (F16’s), 3 years copilot B737 and 15 years copilot B747-400 and ERF.
So all in all actually 28 years into my flying carreer😉

Icejock 18th Mar 2019 07:04

This is what is so systematically wrong with the aviation business kn Europe. People join, in this case, Norwegian LH, on TC’s that aren’t great to believe they have been promised a quick upgrade so they go somewherebelse. The problem with that is that somewhere else will be **** in the end. On top of that they go a cry out on an anonomous forum about it and tell people to stay away when.

I do not belive that the majority of people bashing Norwegian here understands the work the pilot corps within Norwegian has done to have acceptable TC’s that we have, especially the agreements in Scandinavia. We actually went on a strike for 12 days in 2015 for the benefit of all future joiners and not get a single improvement in our own terms. It was to secure a fair and transparent system for all pilots joining Norwegian in the future. Then to have some new joiners come here and piss on that is quite irritable.

Today our colleagues in Spain are facing difficulties and that is the time to unite and help each other and stop being cry-babies.

Banana Joe 18th Mar 2019 23:23

I'm hearing the CEO resigned? Still nothing on the news.

iome 19th Mar 2019 04:50


Originally Posted by Banana Joe (Post 10423102)
I'm hearing the CEO resigned? Still nothing on the news.

The chairman according to FT
[..The chairman of troubled low-cost carrier Norwegian Air has announced he will step down in May. Bjorn Kise, who has been chairman since 2010, said he will resign after the company’s annual general meeting..]

cumulustratus 19th Mar 2019 07:32


Originally Posted by iome (Post 10423219)
True according to FT
[..The chairman of troubled low-cost carrier Norwegian Air has announced he will step down in May. Bjorn Kise, who has been chairman since 2010, said he will resign after the company’s annual general meeting..]

So the chairman of the board, Bjørn Kise, will leave after the AGM.

That's not the same as the CEO, Bjørn Kjos, resigning.

Norway West 9th May 2019 11:08

Norwegian reducing pilot jobs at LGW?
 
Rumour in financial news in Norway. 787 pilots.

BluSdUp 9th May 2019 15:34

Interesting
How many 787 RR Dreadliners are still grounded World wide.
How many delivered
Anyone?

Capt Flinstone 10th May 2019 15:35

One quick Advise ; STAY AWAY from NAS 787 !! ALL PILOTS

Banana Joe 10th May 2019 18:49

What's going on?

Meester proach 10th May 2019 20:36

Not having much luck with these RR products, combined with the 737MAX issues.
A massive pain in the ass.

gtseraf 10th May 2019 20:39


Originally Posted by MonarchOrBust (Post 10468413)
Heard from a source that due to the ongoing RR engines, at any one time 4 787s will be grounded throughout the next 6 months. Wet lease being drafted in but effectively the operation is 4 aircraft worth of crews too heavy (pilots and CC). Every single B787 LGW based pilot (in other words those working for Norwegian UK Longhaul) have been given a bunch of options ranging from part time (month on/month off) through to 3, 6 or 12 month unpaid career breaks. Bidding process has commenced. If not enough interested people, then redundancies will be on the cards. Damn Boeing and RR for the mess they've created!

I am sure the airlines affected are being paid compensation by the manufacturers, I would also expect that a portion of the compensation should cover affected crew. Worthwhile getting some legal eagles to investigate this one.

Smirf420 11th May 2019 12:02

Scandi media today reporting all US flight from CPH closing down after October 2019 and a bunch og other routes from Scandi and LGW.......

By the wording of the written in the media it looks like a total reset......

Hope for the best for the crews.....

MonarchOrBust 11th May 2019 12:44

The compensation is not going to come over night and is probably not going to be in cash either.

The RR engined 787 will prove to be industry's greatest mistake.

Meester proach 11th May 2019 14:00


Originally Posted by Smirf420 (Post 10468898)
Scandi media today reporting all US flight from CPH closing down after October 2019 and a bunch og other routes from Scandi and LGW.......

By the wording of the written in the media it looks like a total reset......

Hope for the best for the crews.....

source please ? These rumours do nobody any favours

3Greens 11th May 2019 16:08


Originally Posted by Meester proach (Post 10468988)

source please ? These rumours do nobody any favours

well, this is a professional pilots RUMOUR forum...

Meester proach 11th May 2019 19:15

Indeed, but some gossip is more malicious,
and id be inclined to say the proportion of professional pilots to other , is fairly low these days

A319 11th May 2019 21:56


Meester proach 12th May 2019 06:38


Originally Posted by A319 (Post 10469262)

Thanks.like it says though the winter programme is not finalised yet. Some of the reported LGW routes are seasonal anyway I think.


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