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Club World 2nd Jun 2016 11:49

Is DEP long haul finished this year?

bradandwhitney 4th Jun 2016 11:22

This is what I came up with for day 1 as of June 2016 (kindly add/correct).

1) Verbal Reasoning

36 "Follow Direction" type questions in 18 minutes, multiple choice;
Paper and pencil. If answer not clear do not guess (negative points?).


2) Numerical Reasoning

24 problems in 12 minutes;
Paper and pencil, multiple choice, no calculator. Written calculations allowed on extra sheet of paper. Skip difficult problems. If solution not clear do not guess (negative points?).

Examples (Not sure if there are both "simple calculations" and text problems or only text problems?):
- 12400 × 27=
- 3484 ÷ 2 ÷ 10=
- What is x if y=5 type equations
- What is the difference in speed of 2 airplanes if the first one covers 0000 miles in 0 hours and 0 minutes and the other covers 0000 miles in 0.0 hours?


3) Flight Director Test
Keep FD centered using joystick
Compare numbers (aural) and note if difference in sequence
Listen for shapes and note color/number

4) Flight Crew Test
25 minute coordination test involving TCAS, ATC radio, altitude clearances, fuel, checklist etc..;

Now back to hitting the books :8 ;)

Good luck to all! :ok:

E170 4th Jun 2016 15:04

Thank you very much for your kind answers.

Even though I did NOT read all of the 150 pages of this post, I just passed Day 1 at LHR.
Now I am preparing for Day 2 (group exercise; interview and a presentation)


@bradandwhitney: when did you attend day 1? I did not had to do the FD Test.

Stocious 4th Jun 2016 23:14

Well done E170. :ok:

VJW 5th Jun 2016 09:15

Just to be clear, the presentation you mention is one given by BA, not one you need to give.

Landflap 5th Jun 2016 09:50

Cripes, with this level of 'present ability' and ' potential' , there would be no need for training. You bods would fit straight into BA aircraft and operate across the pond to JFK. Is this how BA keeps training costs to a minimum ? Mate of mine, albeit with 30 years in the business and ex sponsored cadet was asked at interview for a new post if he drank and knew any jokes. He did both, enjoyed a celebratory glass of juice when told that his joke was of a very high standard and had passed the selection. Good luck fellas. If you are unsuccessful (don't like the word 'fail') you could go straight to NASA cadet selection and whizz quite easily through the programme. Good luck to all.

VJW 8th Jun 2016 23:14

E170 are you referring to this part of their email?

'Your assessment will consist of:

- Interview with a BA pilot and HR associate
- Group Exercise
- Presentation with Q and A session, over a light lunch'

If you are I don't take that as a presentation you must conduct. You have me worried now ;) Can someone who's done day 2 recently clarify, before I get clarification from the horses mouth.

wokawoka 8th Jun 2016 23:20

Did day 2 yesterday. BA staff give the presentation on salary, lifestyle, career progression etc. You ask the questions.

Il Marchese 9th Jun 2016 02:47

Hello guys,

But is it true that at the moment they are accepting and doing the assessment just for captain with the type or with experience on jets?

VJW 9th Jun 2016 07:34

BA Cityflyer maybe (who might look like BA, but certainly are not), it's probably laughable anyone thinks BA mainline will hire Direct Entry Captains...

Il Marchese 9th Jun 2016 08:43

Really? Why you think so?
Because I see a lot of brokers, also big and famous companies, that are contacting captains for direct entry...

clearofconflict 9th Jun 2016 08:53

Il Marchese.....they are definitely not.

Il Marchese 9th Jun 2016 10:26

Mysteries of life...they are searching...but actually they are not searching!
:D

wiggy 9th Jun 2016 21:05


Really? Why you think so?
Because I see a lot of brokers, also big and famous companies, that are contacting captains for direct entry...
I'd avoid anyone claiming they can facilitate any such thing.

Is there any chance you can post or PM me a link/screen snap shot or similar to one of these brokers and/or their adverts because I suspect some people in the office at work might be interested in hearing if people are unofficially using the BA brand or name to generate business?

Just to be clear the standard method of recruiting to BA mainline has always started with individuals applying directly to the company once a recruitment window opens. AFAIK BA have never used "brokers" for mainline recruitment and I have heard no rumours on the company grapevine that they are about to do so.

In the highly unlikely event that BA have suddenly decided to use brokers anyone joining BA Mainline will most definitely join as a First Officer, at the bottom of the seniority list, regardless of the position and/or seniority they held at their previous company, regardless of what any broker says.

And just in case there has been confusion - as has been said BA Cityflyer is not the same as BA Mainline.

Juan Tugoh 10th Jun 2016 11:47

Il Marchese,

As Wiggy and others have stated, BA mainline do not accept Direct Entry Commands. The only way in is as an FO at the bottom of the seniority list. Anyone claiming otherwise is a wrong, and quite possibly trying to con you.

E170 11th Jun 2016 11:04

Hello community,

has anyone some tips how/what to prepare for the 747 Simulator Assessment?

Stocious 11th Jun 2016 12:04

There are lots of tips if you read back through the thread...

Permafrost_ATPL 11th Jun 2016 12:38

The first time I tried to get into BA, my daily ride was a 737 and I paid a fortune for practice in a full flight 747 sim. Didn't get in.

The second time, my daily ride was a 320 and I paid reasonable money for practice in a fixed base 737 sim. Didn't get in.

The third time, 6 months after the second time, I paid no money to anyone and just showed up. Got in.

Just saying :)

RexBanner 11th Jun 2016 15:51

I practiced the hell out of the 747 on FSX, got in first time. There's a million different stories from a million different people (not literally). You can't use anything as a guide. Do what you think is necessary and do your best.

Harry palmer 16th Jun 2016 10:26

Can anyone confirm the Numerical and verbal reasoning tests have changed. I have a million practice types for the old style tests. Anyone have knowledge of where examples can be sort for accurate practice for the new style.

much appreciated


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