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heartburn 26th Apr 2016 09:02

LH Holding Pool
 
Hi All

It all seems to have gone quiet on here regarding people being rescued from the pool.

Which LH fleets are currently being allocated?

Any info appreciated

:cool:

Jwscud 26th Apr 2016 11:23

I believe only 777/747 and possibly 380. I was told a few months back that the 787 requirements were sorted for the next 6 months or so.

FullClimb 26th Apr 2016 11:35

Sounds like a 6-7 week average wait at the moment from entering the pool.

I have also been told 777/747 at the moment. I believe 380 is for just a few who are already rated going through the process.

PilotJames 26th Apr 2016 14:01

Has anyone got any information on the new style verbal test?
PM me please if you do?
Thank you

lhchris 28th Apr 2016 00:09

Hey guys

I know this might have been asked a few times before, but I still got no answer. Anyone on the 777 right now with a recent roster?? Did EASA bring a lot of changes? How many days off a month on average? What´s the minimum?
What´s the trend in quality of life?
Your input is highly appreciated, thanks!

wiggy 28th Apr 2016 05:57

lhchris

It's all here, seek and ye shall find.......

Being lazy (and busy) I'm not going to type it all out again but look at the Triplines on post #2658 from 12th of Feb (page 133 of this thread on my browser), and the comments in the posts made by various others about Blindlines, etc.

My post contained March rosters so early days of EASA compliance for Long Haul, and as for a trend - well, don't expect any improvement. As an example the pilots on Reserve at the moment seem to be getting hammered with work (i.e. absolute minimum EASA days off between trips). Going to be an interesting summer.

cessnapete 28th Apr 2016 15:30

Wiggy
I hear new joiners on the A380 are being trained as Cruise only co-pilots for at least a year. Is this a new lower pay scale position.
I didn't think BA employed pilots not trained/qualified for t/o and landings down route.

GS-Alpha 28th Apr 2016 15:49

I know nothing of the plans for DEPs onto the A380, but BA did certainly ask for volunteers to be cruise only pilots on the A380 a fair while back. These volunteers were fully trained as normal line pilots; they simply needed simulator details for their recency because they were not obtaining landings on the line. I do not know the reason why they would require cruise only pilots now though because we are only one hull below the maximum planned. Volunteers were paid their ordinary salaries as far as I am aware.

P0tt3r 28th Apr 2016 16:52


Originally Posted by cessnapete (Post 9359383)
Wiggy
I hear new joiners on the A380 are being trained as Cruise only co-pilots for at least a year. Is this a new lower pay scale position.
I didn't think BA employed pilots not trained/qualified for t/o and landings down route.

6 months. Full FO pay. Full rating on licence. Reason is lack of line training capacity.

wiggy 28th Apr 2016 18:31

cessnapete

Can't add much to what p0tt3r has written, other than add that there's certainly no talk on the line of cruise only pay scales or long term cruise only contracts.

FWIW BA tried a similar temporary cruise only system briefly on the 744 a long long while back when most of it's work was ultra Long Haul which meant it was difficult for co-pilots to retain recency. It ended up being difficult to administer and meant scheduling lost flexibility with no financial gain to the company. It didn't last very long.

P0tt3r 28th Apr 2016 19:01

Early DEPs onto the 380 had their cruise stint cancelled as they found some line training capacity. The rough timescale is 6 months (to tie in with a recurrent sim), but it seems quite flexible.
As Wiggy alludes to, they'd rather have you line trained. Much more useful to the company/fleet.
Certainly no ulterior motive that I'm aware of.

Club World 28th Apr 2016 20:04

Any ideas if DEP will open soon again?

no sponsor 1st May 2016 08:00

Not for a while, due to some IT upgrade of the recruitment system. I don't think I'm allowed to post the numbers, but they have made offers to a reasonably large number of folks already this year.

No idea as to the numbers required for next year, but BA isn't getting any new hulls in 2017.

aceman18 1st May 2016 11:29

Abu Dhabi 747 Sim
 
Anybody in the Middle East waiting for their BA sim check? If so, fancy going halfsies on the 747 sim in Abu Dhabi?

Enzo999 1st May 2016 12:16

Just a word of caution about spending a large sum of money on the 747 practice, a friend of mine had his sim changed to the 757 on the day and I have heard about this happening to several other people recently.

2 Whites 2 Reds 1st May 2016 21:27

Won't be happening for much longer, if at all. The 757 sim has recently been sold and is in the process of going.

Iver 1st May 2016 22:18

What are the proportion of recent fleet type allocations for new hires? What percentage are getting A380, A320, 777, 787 and 744?

Also, when are you expecting the first A350 on property?

wiggy 2nd May 2016 13:44


DEP A350, what are the chances of that happening ....
Next seat/type bid window isn't currently open, will be in July (for one month) - that's when there might be the first signs of internal bids for the type being available.

In service dates vary dependent on source, but AFAIK first A350 to BA isn't due until late '17 at very the earliest.

Traditionally and for practical reasons the early courses on a new type are populated by existing trainers from within BA (both P1 and P2).

Juan Tugoh 3rd May 2016 15:00

Latest info on the 350 is sim arriving Jan 2018 and first frame Q3 2018. I doubt we will see any bid until next year.

findacure 4th May 2016 12:06

Hi all. Hoping someone can supply a few examples of a junior 787 roster. A brief outline of the type rating timeframe would also be very useful.

Feel free to pm.

Thanks


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