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Douglas Bahada 17th Mar 2020 01:23

CW247.

Why not tell them to roll over and die instead.

Tay Cough 17th Mar 2020 10:42

BA have just issued an HR-1 redundancy notice for an unspecified number of pilot redundancies.

While at face value, this is perhaps a little alarming, itís part of a longer process involving negotiations between BA and BALPA. Previous form suggests compulsory redundancies will be avoided but obviously everything else will come to a halt for some time.

Rottweiler22 17th Mar 2020 11:29


Originally Posted by Tay Cough (Post 10717124)
BA have just issued an HR-1 redundancy notice for an unspecified number of pilot redundancies.

While at face value, this is perhaps a little alarming, itís part of a longer process involving negotiations between BA and BALPA. Previous form suggests compulsory redundancies will be avoided but obviously everything else will come to a halt for some time.

What do you reckon will come from it? Pay cuts, unpaid leave, dilution of Ts & Cs, etc?

Busdriver01 17th Mar 2020 11:49


Originally Posted by Rottweiler22 (Post 10717182)
What do you reckon will come from it? Pay cuts, unpaid leave, dilution of Ts & Cs, etc?

I cant imagine BALPA would let them offer anything other than unpaid leave, voluntary redundancies (aimed at the top 747/777 skippers id assume) and part time options as most other carriers (all in worse financial situations) have offered.

I also cannot believe that, after the chaos and damage that was caused at the end of last year, they'd accept a permanent attack on Ts and Cs - Covid-19 aside, the company make a fortune.

Smooth Airperator 17th Mar 2020 11:51

I hope BALPA are on the ball with this. Remember, what they take away they'll never give back. At the same time they'll justify their huge bonuses by claiming they delivered an amazing turnaround even though it will be the lowest paid who made the biggest sacrifices.

Percula 17th Mar 2020 17:03


Originally Posted by RexBanner (Post 10717490)
New joiners and the internal guys on conversion/promotion courses at TBC today have had their training terminated and been sent home, with the exception of those on the A350. Uncharted waters indeed, god knows whatís about to happen.

This is untrue. Please can we not try and spread rumours. This is stressful enough as it is.

Plastic787 17th Mar 2020 17:33

BA today issued a FAN suspending Schedule F of the Memorandum of Agreement. Some
ongoing training courses are indeed being canned.

Spudder 17th Mar 2020 17:36


Originally Posted by Percula (Post 10717541)
This is untrue. Please can we not try and spread rumours. This is stressful enough as it is.


It very much is true..

Raph737 17th Mar 2020 18:28

Rishi Sunak just announced financial help to UK businesses and airlines with a series of measures, with an initial bailout of £330Bi. I guess BA has no excuse to make pilots, or any other employee redundant now, considering their profits and cash liquidity they have plus Government cash injections to avoid redundancies.



FlipFlapFlop 17th Mar 2020 18:33

Macron stated €300bn is to protect french jobs.....no french redundancies. The same must apply to the UK £300bn

GKOC41 17th Mar 2020 18:58

Lot of banter in previous threads about Nigels wanting part time. Well the door should be wide open now surely? Or will guys n girls back track?
This would mitigate only a small amount I appreciate.

wiggy 17th Mar 2020 19:47

No, the "Nigels" :rolleyes: I know who have been pushing for Part Time aren't back tracking.

Whether offering Part Time fits in with the company's plans remains to be seen.

GS-Alpha 17th Mar 2020 20:41

Yes, once you’ve started day one, you are an employee. I don’t think anyone was suggesting people been told to go home from a course and rejoin the holding pool.

GS-Alpha 17th Mar 2020 20:42

Sadly I very much doubt they’ll be going anywhere but short haul.

BitMoreRightRudder 17th Mar 2020 21:27

LH SFOs doing A320 command courses have had their courses canned and are being directed RHS 320. It’s not pretty.

student88 17th Mar 2020 23:30

They're also offering temporary secondments from the A380 to A350, killing two birds with one stone (dealing with the A380 surplus whilst filling the gaps of the poor A350 bound DEPs who had their contracts torn up..

RogueOne 18th Mar 2020 20:01


Originally Posted by BitMoreRightRudder (Post 10717828)
Itís not pretty.

But it is necessary

Black Pudding 18th Mar 2020 21:58


Originally Posted by BitMoreRightRudder (Post 10717828)
LH SFOs doing A320 command courses have had their courses canned and are being directed RHS 320. Itís not pretty.

Iíd be thankful to have a job.

BitMoreRightRudder 18th Mar 2020 22:46

Were you two sent here by management? You sure sound like it.

Oh gaim 18th Mar 2020 23:05


Originally Posted by BitMoreRightRudder (Post 10719447)
Were you two sent here by management? You sure sound like it.

Indeed. Some companies seem significantly more forthright and open than others and ultimately ours is very generous indeed.

IAG are not debt laden I thought?


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