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hunterboy 12th Aug 2017 11:21

I reckon you'd be lucky to take just over 1/2 of that 200K home. Subtract the housing and commuting costs and see what you're left with. Then decide if it suits you. It works for some pilots, and not others. Great thing, this free world we live in. :)

zzz 12th Aug 2017 20:29

If it really is the starting salary at Qatar, then go for it, you're welcome to it.
It's the same salary as pp34. Anyone who currently joins under the age of 31 (and most do) can achieve it. Whether it is the same salary scale in 30 years time is purely subjective.
How it is taxed is at the behest of the government, not BA.

It's great to have choices.

sudden twang 13th Aug 2017 06:03

Aiming High
Got facts to back up a starting pay of £200k or was that a wind up.
There are plenty of easy LH commutes where you don't pay tax or v little.
If Jeremy had got in they'd have needed the 380 on the LIS. 😎

Enzo999 13th Aug 2017 18:40


Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 (Post 9860562)
Ok. All Figures are in QAR but you paid in USD.
Base Pay 22575
Housing 13000
Utilities 300
Transport 1500
Flight Pay based on 70hrs 7280
Mobile 33
Total 44688
$12341 a month
Ok if you use there accommodation take 13000 gives 31688 or $8751.
So you would be approx £9400 or £6725 a month. Ok I admit I am using my situation in the figures in the fact I live in UK and wouldn't live in a tax haven and commute to the UK. To earn £9400 a month paying UK tax I would have to be on nearly £200k a year.
People will now say high living costs in Middle East etc etc horrible life but honestly 5 years and you can make a lot of money. I know guys who have done it and guys who are doing it.

There are several issue with the pay at Qatar (and I talk from experience having spent 3.5 years there). Firstly the housing allowance you will never see they will put you in company accommodation and only pay the allowance if the choose to or need to, if you rent privately 13,000 is not enough so you will be loosing even more of your pay. I have long argued that this is dead money and people have rightly pointed out that if you are considering a like for like comparison then you need to consider UK housing costs. My mortgage costs me £1500 a month here or £18000 a year (far less than to rent a small apartment in Qatar), the difference being my house makes far more than that annually in appreciation, so in effect my house is an investment that does not exist in Qatar (remember non nationals are not allowed to buy property in Qatar)

So forget the housing and you are left with 8700 dollars a month which under current exchange rates is a lot of money, but they are at historic lows! A figure closer to 1.5 or 1.6 dollars to the pound are far more representative of the past decade. At those levels it brings your take home closer to £5000 a month, which was about what I was making. Now 5k a month is only slightly more than most BA FOs are making and the difference in living conditions are beyond comparison. To put it nicely Qatar is a boiling hot hell hole full of desperate and greedy individuals, it is an incredibly unpleasant place to live and 6k a month is not even close to a worth while amount.

The head line figures look very appealing but dig a little deeper and remove post Brexit exchange rates and actually things are not so great.

anson harris 14th Aug 2017 13:47


For us we just don't see a good future in the UK.
Good luck at Qatar - there are plenty of threads in the ME section, but this one is about BA.
As my Mother used to say "don't come crying to me". No whining when you get to Qatar, ok?!

sudden twang 14th Aug 2017 15:06

Aiming High
Ok you meant £200k equivalent with a bit of reversed maths.
Fair enough best of luck I've only spent an hour there.

bazilbutler 14th Aug 2017 15:24


Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 (Post 9861000)
Countryside is nice to visit but I don't know how people live there.

haha. the exact same could be said for London!

JaxofMarlow 14th Aug 2017 15:24


Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 (Post 9861000)

PS We don't live in central London we are zone 5, wouldn't want to live further out. Countryside is nice to visit but I don't know how people live there.

We have shops and electricity now. :ok:

JB007 14th Aug 2017 17:01

Running water in my village!

CXKA 14th Aug 2017 17:36

Think of all that extra flight pay at Qatar as you have to fly round the ME region just to get in and out ;-)

The African Dude 14th Aug 2017 19:45


Originally Posted by anson harris (Post 9861558)
As my Mother used to say "don't come crying to me". No whining when you get to Qatar, ok?!

Maybe your mother should have taught you to come across as a bit less of a :mad: ? This chap/chap-ess is discussing the pros and cons of BA Direct Entry from their background and experience. And in the vacuum of new developments in the recruitment department, only punctuated by meager speculation here, I can't see it being a bad thing. Meanwhile, feel free to add some useful info of your own instead of using "good luck" as a placeholder for some other less pleasant sentiment.

Ea300 16th Aug 2017 12:21

Anyone heard anymore about internal bids?

wiggy 16th Aug 2017 12:27

The window for the internal bidding process only closed a couple of weeks back, the collated bids are available to those in house so they can make sure their preferences have been correctly recorded.. Once that's been done (end of this month) it will then be down to the long suffering/hard working lady who organisies all this to crunch the numbers, no doubt after umpteen inputs from network planning, etc

Last time I looked the results weren't due to be published until November...sorry if that wasn't the timescale you were hoping for.

anson harris 16th Aug 2017 13:24


feel free to add some useful info of your own instead of using "good luck" as a placeholder for some other less pleasant sentiment.
You can feel free to be less pessimistic about what people mean when expressing sentiments on an online forum. FWIW, I actually meant it... But then again, this is PPRuNE, perhaps I should add "for real" after I say anything nice. The point I am making is that PPRuNE is full of people who seek advice/validation/whatever about going to the ME. They never listen (I am guilty as charged) and are invariably back to complain about it. I would say that was something useful to consider.

Mizar 16th Aug 2017 15:29

Anyone in the pool has recevid details for this online presentation we should be given soon...

Ea300 17th Aug 2017 17:59

Nope nothing yet

applecrumble 18th Aug 2017 13:54

I get the feeling we aren't at the top of the priorities list

polepilot 18th Aug 2017 16:27

Are we on any list?!

applecrumble 18th Aug 2017 18:30

The one in the bin?

FACoff 23rd Aug 2017 10:07

Has anyone managed to ascertain what our actual time in the pool is now? I.e - the original year + 6 months + extra year = 2.5 years?


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