Looking at the aircraft on order, we still need to recruit a lot more Pilots. In my experience, NAS have recruited a larger ratio of Captains than FO's, in the short term, as we can fly in both seats, which gives them more flexibility. We've also recruited a lot of experienced FO's, some of which are already upgrading within a year of joining, so, there will still be a significant requirement for FO's in the future. It's just a question of time and training department capacity.
May be an obvious point, but a personal recommendation from someone from within NAS, helps a lot! Good things come to those who wait :ok: |
A friend contacted the agencies: no dec s anymore untill after the summer and non type rated need not apply for 738 and non Boeing experience need not apply for 787 unfortunately....
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Also factor in that the classic fleet is being reduced.
The original plan was i believe 15 courses during the 1st quarter, then every alternative week. |
Just running through a few things in my mind regarding this company. I'm wondering what happens after the 2 year temporary contract. From what I can see you will be permanently employed in a company, what form that takes I think has still to be decided.
I noticed some rumours on here about them setting up different companies in the various countries that they have a base. Would this mean that transferring from one base to another would then become far more problematic? |
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A good question, but it shouldn't be any more difficult than changing agency and that is straightforward, Norwegian's product is seasonal, more so in terms of location than the volume of product, due to the Scandinavian's decamping en masse to the Canary isle come winter, so there is always some movement of people to bases other than their own with season change, this tends to be new hire, but not exclusively so.
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Does anyone have any updated info/rumours regarding if the FO-recruitment will start to pick up again?
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All courses up until May are filled as far as I'm aware.
From what I've heard the next recruiting drive is around Autumn time. |
Are there any news regarding what actually has happened to the contract-pilots who has finished their two years and now supposedly should be employed directly?
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We should know within the next few weeks as the HEL base becomes 3 years old. The company had the option to extend the time period up to 3 years (which they did) the time is now up.
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I wonder what they're going to come up with, and if this leads to a subsequent change in T&Cs besides the contract expiration issue.
Any rumours about new bases? |
There should be some calls going out this month (April) for interviews in May if anyone hears could you please post, thanks
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For captains or first officers?
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Ive heard both but more FO's or so the rumours go!
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Interviews
Has anyone had an invitation to an interview yet? The suspense is killing me :*
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I was told there would be interviews next month by friends already in but there hasn't been a word amongst my colleagues who have applied. Going on what I have seen in the last six to eight months they don't give a lot of notice, it's usually about a week to ten days notice for an interview. The recruitment process is very no nonsense with short lead in times and generally a job offer within a day or two of the interview. So when it happens, it happens fast.
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I had about 4 or 5 days notice when I had mine, got the results a few days after that too.
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Thanks Guys! Still all sounds pretty positive. Fingers crossed
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Everyting happens fast with Norwegian. Fingers crossed too
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I had fully expected the eventual Spanish "permanent Contract" to be wholly insulting, but neither I, nor anyone else was expecting this desultory offer made to the HEL based crew.
Welcome to Ryanair Finland, sorry NAS Finland, no sorry, right 1st time Ryanair Finland This info was sent out from NASPA: "Dear Colleagues, As predicted, individual contracts are being sent out. Please find attached the contract you will receive/have received from NAR. NASPA board recommends everyone NOT TO SIGN this contract. It is VITAL that we all speak with ONE VOICE. ALL questions and queries should be sent to NASPA, that will in coordination with lawyers send the questions to Norwegian. Best Regards NASPA Board" They also mentioned that they're planning to reduce the agency salaries. Here are some numbers from the contract: Base pay Pilot less than 2 000 hours: 3 000 € per month Pilot more than 2 000 hours: 3 500 € per month Captain supplement Supplement for appointment as Captain during assignment: Captain less than 2 000 hours PIC: 1 800 € per month Captain more than 2 000 hours PIC: 2 400 € per month Block hour supplement Block hour supplement: 12 € per Block hour Fixed Extra Pay (Holiday work, stby compensation etc) Pilot less than 2 000 hours: 600 € per month Pilot more than 2 000 hours: 700 € per month While an employee is appointed Captain the fixed extra payment is in total: Captain less than 2 000 hours PIC: 1 060 € per month Captain more than 2 000 hours PIC: 1180 € per month Overtime Overtime payment: monthly base salary/160 Allowance Daily Allowances will be paid in accordance with mandatory Finnish tax legislation/Vero.fi. If the pilot agrees to work on a scheduled day off, a lump sum of 8% of the pilot's monthly base salary is paid. The pilot is entitled to a minimum of 9 days off duty per calendar month.The days should include one weekend (Saturday-Sunday) as well as one additional period of at least two consecutive days. Loss of licence not mentioned in contract but during meeting. The employment agreement is terminated without further notice if the employee loses his or her certificates This is extracts from the permanent contract that on behalf of Norwegians management today, 5th of May, we been approached with. As it seems, the company thinks this is fair and competetive. We disagree! Looks like a :mad: contract with the aim that people should be fooled into believing that permanent contracts are not good, very much like fr/brk? Read the whole thing and made a plus/minus list. Not much on the plus side + They pay for uniform cleaning Regulated not to work on both christmas and new years. - Pay for passports. Think its paid by agency now? 9 days of (25% reduction from todays 12) 1 h report time for stby Day off payment 8% of base salary. Is this 8% of the WHOLE monts salary? If so acctually a slight increase for fo but a decrease for cpt. Currently 350/750e. No pension apart from finnish social system. From what I understand you already have that? Salaries, allowance not taken into account. How much is this? Fo 2000+ 3500 700 160 960 (flight pay for 80hrs) 5320 tot New cpt 7480 Cpt 2000+ 8200 Current pay based on 80 hrs Fo 5740 plus extra pay according to finnish law Cpt 10240 So to summarize -25% less off days -7% salary drop for fo -27% salary for new cpt -20% for experienced cpt |
Their not going to sign it. Another strike is looming IMHO.
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