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bluk 6th Sep 2011 14:39

FPA, someone on pprune wrote that questions are about company and typical ATPL questions, good luck !

Is there any person who applied to cadet position and was invited to take this exam ?

djfingerscrossed 6th Sep 2011 16:43

Ladies and gents,

There appear to be a lot of disgruntled people on this thread. Can I just ask, without emotion, is Wizz a friendly decent place to be?

Looking at PPJN the salary for an FO is E20k? What would the likely bases be at the moment and could you advise on what you'd likely be taking home (both gross and net) working an average month? No idea on the number of sectors you'd be doing.

PPJN also has some information saying Wizz keep some of your salary for the first few months? Is this accurate and if so for what purpose? I'm rated on the bus so I'm assuming that this would be applicable only for non-rated applicants?

I'm in no hurry or chasing a command but given that I might be out of work shortly just trying to put as many irons in the fire as possible. Thought Wizz might be an exciting place to be for a while?

Cheers

No_Speed_Restriction 6th Sep 2011 17:18

So, with an average sector pay factored in, what can a DEC expect to make on average per month (net)

Cheers

solomonking 6th Sep 2011 17:27

EUR 6,000-7,000 ?

Adhemar 6th Sep 2011 17:46

previous experience
 
to B767PL : 737 rated captain with approx. 5000 hrs, pm me if you have other questions.

to all who replied with info regarding the recruitment: thanks !

Adhemar

jospjn 6th Sep 2011 17:50

Online Quiz
 
Hello Guys,

I was wondering if anybody can share some info about the online quiz for Wizzair.Are the questions related to the everyday flying use like RVSM,
CAT 1 2,3, MSA etc or they are asking complex questions we had in our ATPL like Altimetry, Gen Nav,MET etc?

Which subjects did they target mostly?

Thanks in advance
JJ

wizzkid 6th Sep 2011 18:37

Average is about 6500 a month.

Less:

- Swiss tax

- living costs at base (Not cheap if you want Western European standards)

- commuting and other travel (To and from work)


What is left? No much for a lot of work.

Cpt_Schmerzfrei 7th Sep 2011 15:10

The question come straight from the JAR ATPL database, so you can get all sorts of questions - definition of Mach, errors of a Mach meter..

Plus questions regarding Wizz Air (operations centres, bases, founded when?)

B767PL 8th Sep 2011 02:28

Adhemar
 
Adhemar,

Thanks for gettin back and GL. :ok:

enemymine 11th Sep 2011 10:54

6500 a month??? doubt it. unless you have 48+ sectors plus some kids to reduce your "taxation" in switzerland.
in wizz you are highly depending on sectors and the contract you are on.
therefore on certain bases (ktw, vno etc) you go down sometimes to less than 4000 as a skipper!!! on others with "better" contracts you may reach 6000.


wizzair is very simple to describe:

good place for fo`s to gain a lot of hours quickly in the a320 (and most of them quite new)

good place for experienced fo`s to get a shot for an upgrade

good place for "local captains" since most of the time wizzair is the only "local" employer, therefore its not hard for wizz to be the best one

bad place for expat captains since salary is low, high commuting costs, massive amount of work in a very demanding environment, no social benefits, no pension plans, no nothing.


all in all it can be a good shot for certain people for a limited amount of time, however, if you plan for a long term career, you will not find it there unless you are "local".
thats why so many expats are leaving... and most of them dont stay a year...

wizzkid 11th Sep 2011 14:45

But thats what I said. 6500 - tax - housing - this and that.

6500 is an average based on the total gross/12.

Labomba 11th Sep 2011 14:49

Salary very variable indeed. You could be around 6500, before Swiss tax if you're lucky with your base, but you can also be just over 5000, before taxes.And don't expect to choose your base.

Then, for the guys with bad luck (with ETOPS contract), you still have to deduct 300 every month (agency fees...). Then, yes, you pay your accommodation, transport, commuting. For Western Std, not enough. But more than ok for East. Europe, if you compare the average salary around here...

'quite agree with the analysis of enemymine above..:D

enemymine 11th Sep 2011 15:19

sorry wizzkid, should have read more properly, my mistake:ouch:

enemymine 11th Sep 2011 15:21

@labomba:

really, the etops guys pay an "agency fee"? didnt know that one... oh boy, it gets better and better over there...

wizzkid 11th Sep 2011 18:25

On a good flying base during the busy summer months one can make quite a bit. The slow months in the middle of winter you might be down to 20 sectors a month does not help.

What people do forget is that many pilots commute to their homes and hence also have fixed expenses in another country than their base.

With the salaries they pay amount of work, conditions etc, Wizzair is unfortunately just not competitive anymore. Was it ever?

enemymine 12th Sep 2011 04:01

well, i guess it was and is a good choice for locals. i mean, wizzair pilots even earn more than their national carrier counterparts in most cases, they fly brand new busses (okok nearly all of them but not all) and they wont go bancrupt immediately.

but for someone non local who brings in 500+ hours of pic time on the 320 it was and is always a bad choice... wizz was never competitive on the international job market and never will be!

again, for locals and f/o`s who are willing to eat a bit of sh*t it is a fantastic jumppad and opens up new opportunities like upgrades, pic time, a320 time, you name it.
just dont forget to jump afterwards and dont get stuck:-)

Narrow Runway 13th Sep 2011 12:15

Captains in Wizz will not generally get 6500€ per month NET of taxes. An average Base Captain would get about 7000€ or so. And that is for all the work that goes into that particularly arduous task (if done properly).

If you work on about 5500€ per month for a normal year 1 or 2 line Captain as a yearly average, I think you would be about right. And then if you pay tax in your home country, it is obviously seriously less than that.

Some bases do fly more sectors than others and in busy periods you may get reasonably well rewarded. However, it is monstrously hard work and unstable.

But, as I said before, there are serious opportunities for those who want them. Command, Training, Management and the list goes on.........

Wizz will, like everyone else eventually, review Captain pay. They still have problems getting enough good Captains in the door be they local or expat.:\

lowflare 13th Sep 2011 12:35

Base change
 
When can one expect eligibility for a base change? Is there a waitlist and above all is it strictly adhered to? What I mean is, have there been cases of people jumping the qew from whatever reason?


Thnx

Lwf

enemymine 13th Sep 2011 14:44

base changes are based on waiting lists and it is adhered to.
first come, first serve basis. system is working quite well. however, one must be aware that certain bases are not open for years to come, others are desperate to find people so it also depends on which one you want to go...

enemymine 13th Sep 2011 16:26

absolutely right narrow rwy,

5500-6000 if you cancel this overrated thing called private life or sleep/rest.
5000 if your roster allows for at least a bit of sleep.
but be aware of the following:

this is only possible if you sign the non-local contracts. but those are only given out in certain bases. in others you get local contracts. then you hardly jump over 5000, more realistic is 4000-4500max.
so you if you are on a local contract, you lose about a thousand for social security/pension/health insurance payment in that respective country despite the fact that you will never see a dime again from that money.
great deal, isnt it?

if you go on the non-local contract you will be responsible for your taxation in your country as well as your social payment obligations and your insurances. so you end up with 5000 or 5500 and nothing payed. no insurance, no pension, no nothing! and you are, contrary to the local contract a "service provider" and they can sack you in a heartbeat. plus the tax/insurance/social payments issue and always in the back of your mind...

then you pay for your accomodation in your home country as well as the one in your base, which is quite expensive is you want to have european standarts in these places called "central" eastern europe...

then you get a roster which will start early on the first day of your shift period and ends late on the last so forget 6/4. reality says 6/2 and the missing 2 is used for positioning.

again, for locals who do not have the commuting issue or the "paying for 2 places" issue it might be good and rewarding. for any expat, who is not looking for an upgrade or fast a320 time, it is an absolute no brainer whether to go there or not.

a lot of captains leaving for the facts stated above so for sure good opportunities coming up for people looking for upgrades!


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