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Old 7th Apr 2023, 10:38
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Originally Posted by Moonraker4
Assessment mid feb. NTR FO. Cheers.
Can you share some details?
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 08:42
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What would be a typical BA EF pilot roster in terms of days off per month? How much reserve?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 19th Jun 2023, 11:32
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Hi can anyone shed light on a typical Eurofly LGW roster for a captain, and can you explain the roster codes RSD - reserve day ? And how that works ?, PRSV ?, AVA ? TDO, ODO ? TS, FT, WR, and LB.

currently flying up to 99 hours in 28 days 850-900 a year so would that be similar ?

also any info on holidays, stby duration currently 12 hours and call-out time as currently have to be at aircraft in 1hour from phone call.

appreciate if you need to PM details thanks

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Old 1st Jul 2023, 07:09
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Anyone who recently attended the BA EF assessment day care to share info? Particularly interested to hear about the NTR DEC tech exam level/content. TIA
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Old 16th Nov 2023, 10:03
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Hey everyone. I am too after some info on the online/in person assessment day. Would be great if anyone could share any insight. Thanks a lot!
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Old 22nd Nov 2023, 23:43
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Can someone share the Video Interview questions for BAEF pleasee. Thankyouu
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 07:54
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Whatís the starting salary for cadets in BA EF, for reference?
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Old 28th Nov 2023, 06:55
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Originally Posted by clarkeysntfc
Whatís the starting salary for cadets in BA EF, for reference?
Doing some rough math's from an MOA that was leaked a year or so ago, you will max out absolutely around 60k flying 900 hours in year 1

edit: as an FO

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Old 28th Nov 2023, 09:13
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DEC's going to LGW on the A320- is the sim being done on A320 as well? seems like nothing available to book in last few weeks, atm prob not likely then until after xmas???, which seems strange as up until now the vibe has been 'we need to get people in the seats asap'!
If anyone has done the sim stage and doesn't mind sharing I would be most grateful for a DM
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Old 13th Dec 2023, 13:35
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Hi vpcaptain,
Typical roster is 6-2, maybe 5-2 if you're lucky, same for FO's. However I do have to say it is Flexi roster so it could be anything. Scheduling agreement states you will get a minimum of 10 days off and really that is all you will get... You will also probably be on a minimum 850-900 hours per year. Theres a constant battle with crewing as the scheduling agreement is written so poorly, everyone interprets it in their own way

The company claims there is a bidding process for the roster - based off seniority - but the most senior captains aren't getting what they request so the system doesn't work well at all. Probably because the company is chronically under-crewed. Management have been promising fixed pattern roster since the conception of Euroflyer but there still have nothing even close to show for it (and how can they when they are scheduling pilots with lovely 6-2 rosters).

As a junior DEC you will be flying every weekend and won't have any say on your roster but that's the seniority system for you, there would be the same issue in mainline BA.

They will tell you that winters will be quiet but most pilots are on the minimum 10 days off regardless and the rest of the days that you wanted off get filled up with reserve (normally 6 days of reserve per month).

RSD - rest day
PRSV - reserve - the evening before this day, by 19:00, they assign you either a flight/home standby/airport standby for the following day
AVA - available day - the evening before this day, by 20:00, they assign you either a flight or a rest day
ODO - owed day off - if you work into your day off (unlike every other airline) you don't get any payment but you can get that day off back at a "mutually agreed time" - spoiler alert, its never when you want it
LDO: leave day off - wrap around day added to leave
TDO: Trump day off - four days per year that you can request OFF in advance (in pairs only - can't be attached).
RDW: Rest day working - basically a day off payment or overtime payment. 300 pounds for FO's & 525 pounds for captains (basically not worth it after tax) however they are asking for Overtime constantly so if desperate there are opportunities for it.

For the home standby - it lasts typically 11 hours and you have 2 hours to get to the airport (very generous actually).
Airport standby typically lasts 6 hours. There are a couple of couches in the crew room if you want to listen to cabin crew gossip for 6 hours on your 5am airport standby, otherwise there's the terminal where you can hang out with the paxs. No rest room, quiet room or anything of the sort.

It really is a proper low cost carrier painted in BA's colour scheme except its even worse pay and lifestyle conditions than low cost carriers

Positives:
- crew are lovely and you do have nice days-out
- home every night (no night-stops)
- 95% of the time it's 2 sector days
- If you can wait a few years there's always mainline LHR opportunities down the road

Hope this helps
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Old 14th Dec 2023, 10:04
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Wearing the same uniform to fly the same aircraft from the same city as mainline - and being treated and paid like this.

How did BALPA let IAG get away with this?
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Old 14th Dec 2023, 10:19
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How do you think they let them get away with it? Ba didn’t have a short haul base at LGW when Euroflyer was formed. If nobody had accepted the T&C’s , I assume BA would have offered more.
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Old 14th Dec 2023, 10:39
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How do you think they let them get away with it? Ba didnít have a short haul base at LGW when Euroflyer was formed. If nobody had accepted the T&Cís , I assume BA would have offered more.
Exactly, lack of backbone supporting the race to the bottom by the flag carrier
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Old 9th Jan 2024, 21:18
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320 Sim

Is anybody able to answer a few questions via DM
much appreciated for any help.
Cheers
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Old 10th Jan 2024, 07:23
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Originally Posted by Chauderon
Exactly, lack of backbone supporting the race to the bottom by the flag carrier
I think weíve been here before . That backbone would see some people at the job centre whilst others take the offer anyway .

BA keeps experimenting with low cost . Didnít it have a great outfit with ď Go ď? Is EF some management trainee scheme ? , they try low cost once a decade and then fold it or sell it
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Old 5th Feb 2024, 16:42
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Hi EGMC - did you manage to get any information relating to the DEC sim? Cheers!

QUOTE=EGMC;11572593]Is anybody able to answer a few questions via DM
much appreciated for any help.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
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Old 13th Feb 2024, 19:20
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Hi recently passed the selection. Does anyone know the holdpool waiting times at the moment?
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Old 13th Feb 2024, 19:22
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Originally Posted by JackyP
Hi recently passed the selection. Does anyone know the holdpool waiting times at the moment?
Hi JackyP - was that for a Captain or FO position? How long did you have to wait between assessment and result? Thanks.
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Old 22nd Feb 2024, 21:24
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Hello all!
I see that some have stated the EF assessment is the same as mainline BA, but Iím unfamiliar with what that entails!

please could someone shed some light on the process? Via pm if that works, Iíve been invited for the online video questions so would love to prepare accordingly.
cheers!
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Old 15th Mar 2024, 13:12
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Has anyone had a start date recently? If so how long were you swimming for? Thanks
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