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Joined: Jun 2018
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From: London
As a member of the LGBTQ+LMNOP community myself, the way things are going at Virgin irks the hell out of me. All this virtue signalling by the woke lot, and the resulting media campaign doesn't help at all, in fact, it will backfire spectacularly. I've heard similar stories to the above regarding exasperated VS crew. We just want to get on with life, not to be used as poster boys/girls, whatever you want to call yourself.
This wanton virtue signalling is resulting in the inevitable hard pendulum swing to the right across the world, in every aspect, and Virgin will find itself on the wrong side of the pendulum, resulting in blow back from customers, and a generous portion of egg on it's face.
HUTT - a proud gay pilot looking forward to a return to normality. Let's just get on with life shall we? There's enough bollocks to deal with.
This wanton virtue signalling is resulting in the inevitable hard pendulum swing to the right across the world, in every aspect, and Virgin will find itself on the wrong side of the pendulum, resulting in blow back from customers, and a generous portion of egg on it's face.
HUTT - a proud gay pilot looking forward to a return to normality. Let's just get on with life shall we? There's enough bollocks to deal with.
Yet in the other threads, you claim to have applied to RIA in Saudi and looked for Korean Air…so a member of LGBTQ+ community who talks like that and wants to work in countries where homosexuality is forbidden or frowned upon? 😂In my country we have a proverb that translates; “you can catch a liar faster than a cripple”.
Last edited by Raph737; 16th March 2024 at 14:04.
Joined: Jul 2023
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From: United Kingdom
Look if you don’t like it then so be it but Virgin are advertising they are inclusive and making a big thing about it…. And you know what that’s fine, as a captain at VAA that didn’t bother me one bit. But if you’re going to advertise it you need to follow through and this is where Virgin drop the ball again.
As is all so common here it’s style over substance and they don’t back it up.
Joined: Jul 2023
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From: United Kingdom
Pay review… still ongoing but company just announced a rise for ground staff and extra long service day off.
Joined: May 2006
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From: UK
Hit the nail on the head with that.
I’ve heard the same from crew.
Some FO’s and crews are speaking of being bullied by “new” captains drunk on power and who wouldn’t have passed command a few years ago. That’s becoming a regular conversation now from crews and FO’s. Some are scared to fly with a few and it’s the same names that crop up.
Some so tired they fall asleep in jump seats on landing. And then the rank misogyny in the form of sleazy individuals trying it on.
I’ve heard the same from crew.
Some FO’s and crews are speaking of being bullied by “new” captains drunk on power and who wouldn’t have passed command a few years ago. That’s becoming a regular conversation now from crews and FO’s. Some are scared to fly with a few and it’s the same names that crop up.
Some so tired they fall asleep in jump seats on landing. And then the rank misogyny in the form of sleazy individuals trying it on.
Maybe fleet specific, but that isn’t a generalisation that I recognise (or have even heard of). Lots of new skippers around, but on the whole they are a breath of fresh air and trying hard to do a good job after years of waiting for the seat. Yes I’m sure there will be a few bad eggs around but that will be the same in every airline and seniority level.
As far as the DEI stuff is concerned, we all have our opinion on it but unless it’s something you feel strongly about for whatever reason, it isn’t something that affects you on a daily basis.
Lots of things wrong with the company and management, but it’s still possible to turn up, do a professional job and have a nice time downroute with the crew.
Good luck in the new venture
Last edited by zero/zero; 16th March 2024 at 22:00.
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From: England
Joined: Jul 2023
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From: United Kingdom
Thanks for the well wishes, I’m looking forward to the new opportunity and to slow down a little as I approach retirement. Last few years in a slightly different role from just line flying is I hope a nice way to bring my career to a close.
Joined: Sep 2023
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From: Stansted
Joined: Dec 2007
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From: MARS
30% by Jan 26 and 20% this year, new scheduling protections, all sorts of policies redundancy etc but VS pilots have all said they will vote this down. Apparently it takes a new joiner start salary to £100k and top trainer TRE £270k.
Joined: Aug 2004
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From: Home
It must be cheaper to retain your crew with substantial salaries, than paying out huge sums of Overtime, and buying back Leave. As is regularly happening now.
Joined: May 1999
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From: Europe
That would be an extraordinary decision.Joined: May 2018
Posts: 155
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From: EU
Some individuals are so bitter about the past they refuse to look forward.
Pity really as the new T&C’s look pretty good. Lots of protections and eye watering pay rise but some feel they’ve got to make a stance!
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From: EU
difficult to say which way it’ll go.
Last edited by pudoc; 5th May 2024 at 18:57.