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Old 28th Feb 2023, 06:11
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Originally Posted by mac81 View Post
Hi folks,

Does anybody know if VAA is looking for people with no restrictions to live and work in UK or they may sponsor for working permit VISA?
Many thanks 🙏
They will sponsor the work Visa if you are successful.
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Old 28th Feb 2023, 06:32
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Originally Posted by sudden twang View Post
Care to share the managed exit deal?
if as these pages suggest there is an issue recruiting why have a MEP or is it just a reduce costs initiative?

They are struggling to recruit , an airline which is very exposed .
I would think VERY carefully about joining .If and when another “crisis” happens then be prepared for a knee jerk redundancy.

yes always about cost
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Old 28th Feb 2023, 10:25
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Meps was bought to the table by balpa pre covid. There is no doubt it saves money but it’s also a nice way to retire. Being able to plan to retire years ahead with a percentage of your salary for up to seven years will significantly help the pension and lifestyle pot.

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Old 8th Mar 2023, 07:18
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Will they ask technical questions in the final stage interview and would they be more likely to be about my current type or the 787?
Anyone with some insights on this one?
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Old 10th Mar 2023, 19:50
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I Would really appreciate some 787 rosters if anyone has them and could PM me. Or at least trips per month and days off on average. Trying to compare my 78 current roster with a VS 78 roster to see how feasible it would be lifestyle wise

Many thanks!

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Old 13th Mar 2023, 00:10
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Which roster would you like to see ?


This is what we got in the pub late the other night ... He's on the airbus and he were well disgruntled. Not 787 specific but it might give some idea.
  • The roster which was issued because of a 'human error' and was cancelled 24 hrs after issue.
  • The roster that replaced it, which bore no relation to the first and which arrived several days later, only a short while before the beginning of the month,
  • The record of actual work done (or not done) which bears little similarity to either of the above rosters
Ask not what the cost to the company is ...
  • For payment of overtime, extra or disrupted flights,
  • For unwise or barely legal scheduling economies
  • To pay for the rumoured imminent mystery scheduling system. JSS Lite perhaps ?
He said it depends on the fleet, but overall it didn't sound pretty.

LFH
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Old 16th Mar 2023, 15:50
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I hadn't realised a large part of Virgin orbit's debts are on Virgin Group's books. The latest developments there can't be helpful.

Times; "The company, whose LauncherOne rocket was unsuccessful in January, is to pause all its operations and furlough hundreds of staff amid financial pressure and a struggle to attract investors."
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Old 22nd May 2023, 14:17
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Does anyone know if the requirement for SFO is 3000hours airbus/boeing time , or total? The job ad is amiguous. Thanks

You must be currently flying of have flown one of the following AC types in the last 6 months - Airbus A319/A320/A321/A340/A380

You’ll need a minimum experience of 3000 hours of total flying time on the above. This must include at least 500 hours current on type (hours spent solely as a cruise pilot are not included).

Any interpretations? 500 hours on type and 3000 total time just wishful thinking?
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Old 22nd May 2023, 19:49
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Originally Posted by pedrothepilot
Does anyone know if the requirement for SFO is 3000hours airbus/boeing time , or total? The job ad is amiguous. Thanks

You must be currently flying of have flown one of the following AC types in the last 6 months - Airbus A319/A320/A321/A340/A380

You’ll need a minimum experience of 3000 hours of total flying time on the above. This must include at least 500 hours current on type (hours spent solely as a cruise pilot are not included).

Any interpretations? 500 hours on type and 3000 total time just wishful thinking?
3000 hours on your type. If not you’ll be on the FO1 pay point. £67691 then FO2 £69876 then onto SFO1 £82048.
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Old 23rd May 2023, 07:40
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Should be 3000 hours total time plus minimum 500 on type
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Old 24th May 2023, 10:47
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Thanks all!
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Old 24th May 2023, 10:57
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3000hrs on type in an LCC is command upgrade, on roughly double that pay
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Old 24th May 2023, 20:45
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Which UK-based LCCs pay Captains with 3000hrs £164k/yr, and have layovers in the Caribbean?
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Old 24th May 2023, 20:48
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Originally Posted by A320LGW
3000hrs on type in an LCC is command upgrade, on roughly double that pay
🤦🤦
Apples and oranges.
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Old 24th May 2023, 23:28
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Originally Posted by Rostermouse
Which UK-based LCCs pay Captains with 3000hrs £164k/yr, and have layovers in the Caribbean?
British Airways it seems
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Old 25th May 2023, 06:46
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The comparison was between staying and getting a command, or becoming a Virgin FO, not Virgin direct entry command - I'm pretty sure Virgin FOs don't get £164k/year.


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Old 25th May 2023, 07:25
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The quote was that LCC CPs are:
on roughly double that pay
I don’t know any LCC CPs on £164k but a yr 1 VS SFO is on £82k basic.

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British Airways it seems
I doubt BA would consider themselves a LCC though. How long after joining before you are on both £164k and a long haul fleet?


I’m a VS SFO, a couple of years in; last year I did 640hrs and made £104k gross, with extra working payments. Airbus Commands are currently going to people who joined in 2017. And I’ve been a LCC Captain - the pay cut to move across to VS (pre covid) has definitely been worth it. Long haul is not everyone’s cup of tea, I’ll grant, but few airlines are as good as they were 10, or even 4 yrs ago, including BA. What’s the time to RHS LH in BA at the moment?

If you don’t want to join, fine - you do you. We probably don’t want you, anyway. Good luck to the rest of you.
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Old 25th May 2023, 09:54
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Not sure about orange or pink LCC but certainly RYR no line Captain is on anywhere near £164k. Even with the “you can earn £xxx that RYR spout which includes the pension contributions RYR put in. RYR state £8k pension contributions for Captains.
I didn’t take command at RYR moved on instead. As a year 1 I’m getting more pension contributions from employer then what RYR pay Captains!!
Add that to my predicted salary so far this year and glad I didn’t take command.
RYR year 1 Captain around £105-£110k if you take pension off.

Nowhere is perfect.
The only benefit of LCC I could see was the 5/4.
Command salary meh. Working up the pay scales of Virgin and BA you get a guaranteed payrise. Not massive but as above 4 years in either carrier £100k a year as an FO not adding on the pension, food, uniform costs etc etc is possible. When I told my mates who are LHS at RYR my take home plus pension it got them thinking!!

Answering the question LH LHS at BA is a way off, 15 years plus, I haven’t checked recently.
You slide over to that PP.


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Old 25th May 2023, 12:40
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A320 didn't say they get £164 k - he said they get double VS FO pay, which is correct.
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Originally Posted by Sick
A320 didn't say they get £164 k - he said they get double VS FO pay, which is correct.
It’s not though. 3000hrs at RYR command ready. Have to pass course. Then first year £90k basic with extras not including stupid pension £105kish.
Go to Virgin with 3000hrs on type and straight to £82k minimum.

So it’s not double even on FO pay. Captain after 3 years at RYR is around £120k from what take home I have seen that adds up to that.

Not even close to double even after 3 years LHS at RYR.
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