Norse Atlantic
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‘Airline Pilot’ is already on the government list of skilled worker visas.
The requirement is the job has to be at least the ‘going rate’, which for airline pilot is set at £60,800…
Whether Norse are on the approved employer list I am not sure, but I would expect not as they are a relatively new company.
Negatives to the employer would be the visa fee (circa £1500) and the associated bureaucracy.
There are of course other ways airlines can base pilots outside of the UK, and still have them operate flights originating from within, without needing a visa.
The requirement is the job has to be at least the ‘going rate’, which for airline pilot is set at £60,800…
Whether Norse are on the approved employer list I am not sure, but I would expect not as they are a relatively new company.
Negatives to the employer would be the visa fee (circa £1500) and the associated bureaucracy.
There are of course other ways airlines can base pilots outside of the UK, and still have them operate flights originating from within, without needing a visa.
1- They signed an agreement with BALPA which will restrict them to employ non-resident pilots or let non-resident pilots operate from LGW base.
2- CAA license conversion for the non-resident pilots takes more than 6 months after getting the residency. No airline will pay the basic fee during the conversion process.
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They would never sponsor a pilot:
1- They signed an agreement with BALPA which will restrict them to employ non-resident pilots or let non-resident pilots operate from LGW base.
2- CAA license conversion for the non-resident pilots takes more than 6 months after getting the residency. No airline will pay the basic fee during the conversion process.
1- They signed an agreement with BALPA which will restrict them to employ non-resident pilots or let non-resident pilots operate from LGW base.
2- CAA license conversion for the non-resident pilots takes more than 6 months after getting the residency. No airline will pay the basic fee during the conversion process.
you can fly on a validation for 12 months which is what I’d imagine the CAA would do with the airlines whilst they wait for the person to convert.
The current situation with licences will change drastically once the airlines and the CAA see a shortage here in the U.K. suddenly it’ll be extremely easy to sponsor and to convert from EASA
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you can fly on a validation for 12 months which is what I’d imagine the CAA would do with the airlines whilst they wait for the person to convert.
The current situation with licences will change drastically once the airlines and the CAA see a shortage here in the U.K. suddenly it’ll be extremely easy to sponsor and to convert from EASA
The current situation with licences will change drastically once the airlines and the CAA see a shortage here in the U.K. suddenly it’ll be extremely easy to sponsor and to convert from EASA
Even Norse have obviously been flooded with applications and are being quite selective on who they call for interview.
I've applied to 3 companies so far in the UK, haven't been called forward to a single one.
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I think where I fell down is not explaining well enough why I want to fly with Norse and why I align with their ‘values’. However overall assessment is more straightforward than BA for example
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Just a heads up for anyone who attends the assessment days. It is NOT a 3 year bond of £12,000 as they announce on the day. It’s actually 24k bond AND a pay deduction of £4,000 per year for the first three years. FO basic pay is 71 not 75
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I had feedback from Norse today that the hold up is because they are still waiting for the report from Orbit Performance.
I completed this aspect over four weeks ago so looks like there is quite a delay there.
Might be worth sending an email through to chase it up.
I completed this aspect over four weeks ago so looks like there is quite a delay there.
Might be worth sending an email through to chase it up.
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Could you please tell when did you apply and for what position with how much experience?
I appliad as non TR FO with 2000h on A320 2022 May but no answer yet.
I appliad as non TR FO with 2000h on A320 2022 May but no answer yet.
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So I believe the majority of the above should be a completely separate discussion away from Norse and their T&Cs. Just to clarify not everyone wants to live within 60 minutes of LGW or LHR but live in the UK, and have the right to, pay UK taxes and commute. A commuting-friendly contract would be welcomed in any airline, believe me.
My point is that two posters on here have stated that Norse are bypassing rules, importing staff, not involving the unions and not employing UK staff. Both posters have no source to share, nor proof of what they have put into the public forum. One has already admitted they have "no idea". Both posters did not post in the same style about IAG, TUI nor Easyjet. IAG and Easyjet combined had more pilots outsourced in Gatwick this summer than I'd imagine the whole Norse operation has... yet no criticism....
If I were interested in Norses T&Cs, I would rather know if those that are posting on that thread are guessing or clutching at straws, or educated on what they are posting about.
Maybe you can kindly answer the following questions, as this is a Norse T&C thread and not a hunch thread...
- Do Norse employ staff in the UK?
- Do Norse employ pilots and crew, in the UK?
- If so, are these staff outsourced or employed directly?
- Do Norse pilots have union recognition?
My point is that two posters on here have stated that Norse are bypassing rules, importing staff, not involving the unions and not employing UK staff. Both posters have no source to share, nor proof of what they have put into the public forum. One has already admitted they have "no idea". Both posters did not post in the same style about IAG, TUI nor Easyjet. IAG and Easyjet combined had more pilots outsourced in Gatwick this summer than I'd imagine the whole Norse operation has... yet no criticism....
If I were interested in Norses T&Cs, I would rather know if those that are posting on that thread are guessing or clutching at straws, or educated on what they are posting about.
Maybe you can kindly answer the following questions, as this is a Norse T&C thread and not a hunch thread...
- Do Norse employ staff in the UK?
- Do Norse employ pilots and crew, in the UK?
- If so, are these staff outsourced or employed directly?
- Do Norse pilots have union recognition?
2. Yes, Norse employ pilots and cc with the right to live and work in the UK.
3. All Norse staff are employed directly by the airline.
4. Norse has BALPA recognition at the companies request.