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Old 12th Jan 2023, 21:47
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Originally Posted by FranciscoS1
Question is is this airline going to be around in 2 years time?

silly question to be honest. You could say this about most Airlines with such a volatile market.

will TUI U.K. or Virgin Atlantic be around in 2 years time? Flybe V3.0?

One poor season can change the fortunes for any airline without a deep war chest.
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Old 12th Jan 2023, 21:51
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I dont think its a silly question at all.
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Old 20th Jan 2023, 11:50
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Originally Posted by FranciscoS1
I dont think its a silly question at all.
Norse interviewed beginning of January new FO's.

Looks like Norse decided to postpone route expansion and then those interviewed, all got rejections shortly after.
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Old 20th Jan 2023, 13:11
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Originally Posted by ToCatLady
silly question to be honest. You could say this about most Airlines with such a volatile market.

will TUI U.K. or Virgin Atlantic be around in 2 years time? Flybe V3.0?

One poor season can change the fortunes for any airline without a deep war chest.
I think he's asking the question because this is pretty much the same management, same planes and same business model as Norwegian who already went bust and laid off most of their staff.
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Old 20th Jan 2023, 16:00
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Originally Posted by pipercub10
Norse interviewed beginning of January new FO's.

Looks like Norse decided to postpone route expansion and then those interviewed, all got rejections shortly after.

Incorrect information .
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Old 21st Jan 2023, 02:23
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Originally Posted by pipercub10
Norse interviewed beginning of January new FO's.

Looks like Norse decided to postpone route expansion and then those interviewed, all got rejections shortly after.
Source? I already have friends who got the offer and starting soon.
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Old 21st Jan 2023, 08:14
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Originally Posted by pipercub10
Norse interviewed beginning of January new FO's.

Looks like Norse decided to postpone route expansion and then those interviewed, all got rejections shortly after.

Not true at all. About 80% were offered jobs in line with their notice periods. Some with no notice periods offered a start date next month.

Assessment days were also carried out last week over a few days too with more days to come in February.

They will admit they’re struggling to find experienced U.K. licence holders with the right to live in the U.K.
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Old 21st Jan 2023, 09:47
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Originally Posted by ToCatLady
Not true at all. About 80% were offered jobs in line with their notice periods. Some with no notice periods offered a start date next month.

Assessment days were also carried out last week over a few days too with more days to come in February.

They will admit they’re struggling to find experienced U.K. licence holders with the right to live in the U.K.
I sense the UK licence holder issue will grow and grow across all the companies
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Old 21st Jan 2023, 10:56
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Originally Posted by ToCatLady
Not true at all. About 80% were offered jobs in line with their notice periods. Some with no notice periods offered a start date next month.

Assessment days were also carried out last week over a few days too with more days to come in February.

They will admit they’re struggling to find experienced U.K. licence holders with the right to live in the U.K.
I have 15k total with over 10k on the 777, haven't heard a peep. Unless you count being asked the same questions 5 times 😅
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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 03:27
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Norse pay

Hi,

I see Norse is advertising for captains again. Anyone know what the pay is for CDG base? I have the OSL terms but was hoping that Euro pay would be a little more competitive!

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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 08:42
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Originally Posted by SpamCanDriver
I have 15k total with over 10k on the 777, haven't heard a peep. Unless you count being asked the same questions 5 times 😅

and both U.K. passport and U.K. licence?
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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 09:40
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Originally Posted by ToCatLady
and both U.K. passport and U.K. licence?
Well I have both, and haven't been invited, amply meeting DEC requirements (I took a much better paid job instead, but they don't know that - I even answered yes to their repeated email) - there had better not be a circumvention of UK laws, because let's face it; it's easier to employ European citizens in a multi national company - but if they want a uk base, the pilots must have the right to live and work there (and permits wouldn't be granted if UK pilots are able to take the job.)
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser
Well I have both, and haven't been invited, amply meeting DEC requirements (I took a much better paid job instead, but they don't know that - I even answered yes to their repeated email) - there had better not be a circumvention of UK laws, because let's face it; it's easier to employ European citizens in a multi national company - but if they want a uk base, the pilots must have the right to live and work there (and permits wouldn't be granted if UK pilots are able to take the job.)
I completely agree and it wouldn’t surprise me if all Airlines start begging the government for work permits and I know it wouldn’t be replicated the other way around. Leaving U.K. passport and licence holders with less opportunities.


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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 15:25
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Originally Posted by ToCatLady
and both U.K. passport and U.K. licence?
Yes UK licence & UK Passport
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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 15:27
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser
Well I have both, and haven't been invited, amply meeting DEC requirements (I took a much better paid job instead, but they don't know that - I even answered yes to their repeated email) - there had better not be a circumvention of UK laws, because let's face it; it's easier to employ European citizens in a multi national company - but if they want a uk base, the pilots must have the right to live and work there (and permits wouldn't be granted if UK pilots are able to take the job.)
Same for me, answered all the repeated questions.
Amd put alot of effort into my initial application & not heard a peep!
Currently looking to come home from the sandpit
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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 20:20
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser
Well I have both, and haven't been invited, amply meeting DEC requirements (I took a much better paid job instead, but they don't know that - I even answered yes to their repeated email) - there had better not be a circumvention of UK laws, because let's face it; it's easier to employ European citizens in a multi national company - but if they want a uk base, the pilots must have the right to live and work there (and permits wouldn't be granted if UK pilots are able to take the job.)
‘Airline Pilot’ is already on the government list of skilled worker visas.

The requirement is the job has to be at least the ‘going rate’, which for airline pilot is set at £60,800…
Whether Norse are on the approved employer list I am not sure, but I would expect not as they are a relatively new company.
Negatives to the employer would be the visa fee (circa £1500) and the associated bureaucracy.

There are of course other ways airlines can base pilots outside of the UK, and still have them operate flights originating from within, without needing a visa.
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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 21:27
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To be able to issue skilled worker visas an approved employer world have to be able to issue certificates of sponsorship (every airline I have seen advertising has said they would be unable to do this), and then each application would then have to be approved or declined by the HO. Neither is trivial or routine apparently, and is liable to be declined if they had an inkling that British pilots are able to do the same job.
Not sure on the rules on funneling foreign pilots though a UK based (& reg'd?) aircraft, destined for a third non EU destination, but I have a feeling it wouldn't be allowed . Fairly impractical and expensive too.

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Old 24th Jan 2023, 07:36
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Originally Posted by SpamCanDriver
Yes UK licence & UK Passport

I am unsure. At the Assessment day there was a mix of guys with wide body time, guys without. Two who hadn’t flown in over 2 years and some with 787 ratings from the Middle East.

They said everyone was picked based on their profile and not necessarily their experience so not sure if they’re looking for something specific in the application.
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Old 24th Jan 2023, 14:51
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Originally Posted by ToCatLady
I am unsure. At the Assessment day there was a mix of guys with wide body time, guys without. Two who hadn’t flown in over 2 years and some with 787 ratings from the Middle East.

They said everyone was picked based on their profile and not necessarily their experience so not sure if they’re looking for something specific in the application.
Thanks for the info

But if they arent even calling people for assements, that far exceed their own requirements, it would suggest they are not facing a shortage of suitable applicants.
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Old 24th Jan 2023, 15:15
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I have no LH experience but did get called for an interview recently. I thought it went quite well... they disagreed and I didn't get offered the job.

They are being selective by the looks of things but I'm unsure exactly what type of person they are looking for (other than not me!)
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