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Anyone else who likes to spend his/ her two golden minutes for a decent answer?
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At the moment the roster is apparently variable as the company is still looking at the commuting contract with X amount of days working and 11 days off, potential for more with duty time met early.
Wether the company decide to reduce the pay for taking a commuting contract is another matter.
Wether the company decide to reduce the pay for taking a commuting contract is another matter.
Despite worker shortages in the aviation sector general and requests from industry to re-consider the immigration rules, last week's Transport Minister Mr Shapps was not minded to not allow any relaxation of rules. Has anything changed? Surely the DFT, HO and BALPA would block any attempts by Norse to commute people in to LGW. UK registered aircraft, UK registered business, UK Jobs and employment law, and plenty experienced qualified UK pilots available to do the work.
Yep plenty of unemployed experience with a UK licence already. Airlines like Norse need to put their hands in their pockets and not try and circumnavigate rules. Brexit happened. Many of us disagree with it, but those are now the rules.
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Surely the DFT, HO and BALPA would block any attempts by Norse to commute people in to LGW.
Airlines like Norse need to put their hands in their pockets and not try and circumnavigate rules.
I assume it was ok that BA, EasyJet and TUI all had a substantial amount of outsourced crew over the summer despite UK pilots looking for jobs?
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IAG TUI and EasyJet could have transferred aircraft onto G- reg but didn’t for some reason…
Can you confirm how you believe Norse are circumventing rules and your source for this? Do Norse not have U.K. contracted pilots and crew?
Can you confirm how you believe Norse are circumventing rules and your source for this? Do Norse not have U.K. contracted pilots and crew?
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I assume it was ok that BA, EasyJet and TUI all had a substantial amount of outsourced crew over the summer despite UK pilots looking for jobs?[/QUOTE]
No, that's not OK either.
The comments about Norse are based on the discussion above about possible commuting contracts. This ultra Brexity government have taken away the right for UK crew including the many unemployed, to seek employment in Europe and yet they have effectively left the door wide open for UK airlines to recruit from the EU if they choose to. The opposition leader has been banging on about not returning to freedom of movement too (obviously unaware that it still exists for skilled workers) and insisting on more training UK workers. Bring it on. there are loads of UK pilots with the right experience and skillsets to choose from, the airlines just need to be nudged into providing appropriate refresher training, rather than going for the cheapest option.
As the politicians fight over who can be the keenest to train up UK workers and keep down on immigration, BALPA should be leading the way in calling for this to actually happen and for the suspension of new visas until it does.
I assume it was ok that BA, EasyJet and TUI all had a substantial amount of outsourced crew over the summer despite UK pilots looking for jobs?[/QUOTE]
No, that's not OK either.
The comments about Norse are based on the discussion above about possible commuting contracts. This ultra Brexity government have taken away the right for UK crew including the many unemployed, to seek employment in Europe and yet they have effectively left the door wide open for UK airlines to recruit from the EU if they choose to. The opposition leader has been banging on about not returning to freedom of movement too (obviously unaware that it still exists for skilled workers) and insisting on more training UK workers. Bring it on. there are loads of UK pilots with the right experience and skillsets to choose from, the airlines just need to be nudged into providing appropriate refresher training, rather than going for the cheapest option.
As the politicians fight over who can be the keenest to train up UK workers and keep down on immigration, BALPA should be leading the way in calling for this to actually happen and for the suspension of new visas until it does.
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No, that's not OK either.
The comments about Norse are based on the discussion above about possible commuting contracts. This ultra Brexity government have taken away the right for UK crew including the many unemployed, to seek employment in Europe and yet they have effectively left the door wide open for UK airlines to recruit from the EU if they choose to. The opposition leader has been banging on about not returning to freedom of movement too (obviously unaware that it still exists for skilled workers) and insisting on more training UK workers. Bring it on. there are loads of UK pilots with the right experience and skillsets to choose from, the airlines just need to be nudged into providing appropriate refresher training, rather than going for the cheapest option.
As the politicians fight over who can be the keenest to train up UK workers and keep down on immigration, BALPA should be leading the way in calling for this to actually happen and for the suspension of new visas until it does.
The comments about Norse are based on the discussion above about possible commuting contracts. This ultra Brexity government have taken away the right for UK crew including the many unemployed, to seek employment in Europe and yet they have effectively left the door wide open for UK airlines to recruit from the EU if they choose to. The opposition leader has been banging on about not returning to freedom of movement too (obviously unaware that it still exists for skilled workers) and insisting on more training UK workers. Bring it on. there are loads of UK pilots with the right experience and skillsets to choose from, the airlines just need to be nudged into providing appropriate refresher training, rather than going for the cheapest option.
As the politicians fight over who can be the keenest to train up UK workers and keep down on immigration, BALPA should be leading the way in calling for this to actually happen and for the suspension of new visas until it does.
My point is that two posters on here have stated that Norse are bypassing rules, importing staff, not involving the unions and not employing UK staff. Both posters have no source to share, nor proof of what they have put into the public forum. One has already admitted they have "no idea". Both posters did not post in the same style about IAG, TUI nor Easyjet. IAG and Easyjet combined had more pilots outsourced in Gatwick this summer than I'd imagine the whole Norse operation has... yet no criticism....
If I were interested in Norses T&Cs, I would rather know if those that are posting on that thread are guessing or clutching at straws, or educated on what they are posting about.
Maybe you can kindly answer the following questions, as this is a Norse T&C thread and not a hunch thread...
- Do Norse employ staff in the UK?
- Do Norse employ pilots and crew, in the UK?
- If so, are these staff outsourced or employed directly?
- Do Norse pilots have union recognition?
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For the third time, an email asking if I have a UK licence and current rating, and for the third time, "yes", but if they can't be bothered to listen to my answers, I'm taking a different option. Maybe their deafness to UK licensed Brits is selective!
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They've asked yhe same questions so many times, that I'm wondering if it's a way to filter out people who aren't really interested?
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Invites to assessment days sent out today for LGW base. Looks like a pretty quick process but no news on T&Cs or start dates which I guess will be covered on the assessment day.