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Old 29th Apr 2022, 09:25
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To be slightly more helpful…. Average SFO hours per year, pandemic, base and type dependant, etc, but, plan on 500hrs-ish a year, it’s 3000hrs+ Before you can apply to the lengthy and opaque command process, which depending on your relationship with management, may be a few months or years. So, after passing 3000hrs you may find yourself on a command assessment, but as there’s no seniority system as stated, so, it’s down to variables, some unknown and unclear when you might be given the nod from management to start the upgrade process, the process is improving, so they keep saying!
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Old 26th May 2022, 12:50
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Updates on pool in anticipation of opening recruitment

Hi team…..new here! Please be gentle.

I have been in the non TR (ex mil) pool since feb 20. Was offered a spot on the last TR course but couldn’t make it in time.

As recruitment is about to open up again for summer 23 does anybody know how this will affect those still in the pool? Start again? Continue to wait patiently? Re-interview only? Sim assessment? Surely all this costs the company money so hopefully they will just call us forward for the next TR courses with a bit of notice.

Any sensible feedback appreciated.

Thanks
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Old 27th May 2022, 01:40
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Only sensible feedback is that if you got as far as being offered a place and turning it down you must have at least one contact in HR, so email them or call them and ask the question.
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Old 27th May 2022, 07:12
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Originally Posted by kiwifan View Post
Hi team…..new here! Please be gentle.

I have been in the non TR (ex mil) pool since feb 20. Was offered a spot on the last TR course but couldn’t make it in time.

As recruitment is about to open up again for summer 23 does anybody know how this will affect those still in the pool? Start again? Continue to wait patiently? Re-interview only? Sim assessment? Surely all this costs the company money so hopefully they will just call us forward for the next TR courses with a bit of notice.

Any sensible feedback appreciated.

Thanks
Two years in a hold pool and then you turn down a TR course... Baffling to be honest.

Anyway, starting next month 100 ish pilots to be recruited for 23 a cross all three fleets to varying degrees, TR courses every month going forward. The big stickler is you must have a UK licence to be offered a contract so if you are interested you need to get the ball rolling now.
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Old 27th May 2022, 08:07
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Thanks.…..I couldn’t be released from current company due to contract agreement! Trust me…..I tried! I did say be gentle! Lol
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Old 27th May 2022, 08:26
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Out of interest. Did J2 give a pay rise this year?

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Old 27th May 2022, 08:55
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Originally Posted by excrab View Post
Only sensible feedback is that if you got as far as being offered a place and turning it down you must have at least one contact in HR, so email them or call them and ask the question.

Thank you excrab. Will do.
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Old 27th May 2022, 10:17
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 View Post
Out of interest. Did J2 give a pay rise this year?
yes all pilots got a payrise this year
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Old 27th May 2022, 10:27
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Sounds promising! Non rated recruitment also likely then?
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Old 27th May 2022, 11:35
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 View Post
Out of interest. Did J2 give a pay rise this year?
4% plus 1% TBC after summer season goes well, Cabin crew beat us with some of the lower ranks getting 7% but assuming we turn a profit this year the profit share reinstated for next July would likely be 5 figures for a Captain

And yes there will be both TR and non rated recruitment, best of luck to all 👍
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Old 28th May 2022, 11:09
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Originally Posted by Pilot2/b View Post
yes all pilots got a payrise this year
Well, if you can call 4% a payrise with inflation running in double figures - a real-world pay cut in reality.
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Old 28th May 2022, 12:48
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Originally Posted by ScouseGeordie View Post
Well, if you can call 4% a payrise with inflation running in double figures - a real-world pay cut in reality.
True but UK is going to be tough the next 5 years. Not just aviation related. No one I know has received a 10% or more pay rise from any industry.
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Old 28th May 2022, 16:16
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Originally Posted by ScouseGeordie View Post
Well, if you can call 4% a payrise with inflation running in double figures - a real-world pay cut in reality.
We really need to call it a (partial) COLA/rate adjustment or inflation correction. Calling it a pay raise suggests I can buy more. Asking for a raise sounds greedy right now. Wanting to be able to pay your bills doesn't.
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Old 28th May 2022, 18:47
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After the last two years, I suspect most professional aviators would be grateful for a 4% rise with a possibility of more. The sense of entitlement in Jet2 from many of a cadre who joined from another defunct UK airline is unreal.
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Old 29th May 2022, 10:17
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It's not going to be easy for Jet2 in the coming year or so. I am at the top of my profession and earning a salary which many would say is exceptional in todays world. Yet whilst in the last have used Jet2 for holiday flights on so so many times looking at their pricing now gets me rethinking about holidays. Now if that's me, what are the people who are not earning anywhere close to me thinking. With the UK inflation eating into what cash many have available it's not a good sign for holiday type aviation companies. I know people will always level that holidays will continue but at what level. Pilots aren't paid in general enough for the job they do, with sone very small exceptions, however to increase salaries at this time for some airlines will lead to problems no doubts.

Looks like the likes of Ryan will just expand as they seem to be operating in a very prudent manner. Zero hour contracts etc.

Can see Mr. O'Leary rubbing his hands together .
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Old 29th May 2022, 17:01
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Originally Posted by rotorwills View Post
It's not going to be easy for Jet2 in the coming year or so. I am at the top of my profession and earning a salary which many would say is exceptional in todays world. Yet whilst in the last have used Jet2 for holiday flights on so so many times looking at their pricing now gets me rethinking about holidays. Now if that's me, what are the people who are not earning anywhere close to me thinking. With the UK inflation eating into what cash many have available it's not a good sign for holiday type aviation companies. I know people will always level that holidays will continue but at what level. Pilots aren't paid in general enough for the job they do, with sone very small exceptions, however to increase salaries at this time for some airlines will lead to problems no doubts.

Looks like the likes of Ryan will just expand as they seem to be operating in a very prudent manner. Zero hour contracts etc.

Can see Mr. O'Leary rubbing his hands together .
If you want to come on a professional pilots message board and suggest that Ryan air are better than Jet2 because their staff are on zero hour contracts I’m afraid I have no interest in your opinion, however enormous your salary might be. Whatever your job is it’s a pity you’re not also on a zero hour contract. They shouldn’t exist, in Aviation or any other business.
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Old 29th May 2022, 17:32
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I think the fact that another U.K. airline has announced plans for imminent recruitment of pilots, both TR and non-TR is a good news story - especially after the last 18 months, and now that Brexit has locked out most U.K. pilots from any jobs in the EU.

TUI UK were also recruiting recently, albeit for temporary summer contracts; Ryanair actively recruiting. Appreciate some of these companies may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I for one am relieved to see some recruitment activity taking place. Even BA are steadily calling back people in their priority return pool.
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Old 29th May 2022, 22:52
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I am seeing lots of people posting on LinkedIn they have gotten jobs with Jet2, some only having left flight school in the past year. How is this so when there has been no recruitment since early 2020? Have I missed something?
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Old 29th May 2022, 23:15
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Originally Posted by Alrosa View Post
I think the fact that another U.K. airline has announced plans for imminent recruitment of pilots, both TR and non-TR is a good news story - especially after the last 18 months, and now that Brexit has locked out most U.K. pilots from any jobs in the EU.

TUI UK were also recruiting recently, albeit for temporary summer contracts; Ryanair actively recruiting. Appreciate some of these companies may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I for one am relieved to see some recruitment activity taking place. Even BA are steadily calling back people in their priority return pool.
which UK Airline?
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Old 29th May 2022, 23:27
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Aviation is certainly picking up fast. LinkedIn as someone else said has seen a flurry of people posting they are flying again. Almost daily I see old colleagues getting jobs.

Retirements are still happening plus from my former outfit which went under I estimate 20% at least will never fly again. Other carriers I have seen on LinkedIn people have moved to other careers as well. Not many but some I never would have suspected.

Jet2 will be fine. I know a fair few who have holidays booked with them or have been and will be going again. People still want holidays, 2020 obviously a right off. 2021 was mixed with only higher earners travelling or people willing to go through the hassle of tests before travelling. 2022 from friends I know everyone is itching to get away or already been.

Let’s face it the UK is a crap holiday destination if you want sun, sea, cheap beer and food. Spain is not far for all of that. Family holiday to Wales last year for a week and it cost us around £2.5k all in, fuel, food, accommodation doing things. Could have gone 4/5 star hotel all inclusive to Turkey for that!!!
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