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Things are getting interesting at RYR for Cadets

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Old 5th Mar 2018, 16:16
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Things are getting interesting at RYR for Cadets

never thought i would see this, uncle Mick is subsidising FO type ratings - Christmas has come early if you didn't have money for their type rating, decent deal, €5k up front and not €29,500 payment, just bonded for 5 years - wonder if other LCC will follow suit.

https://careers.ryanair.com/cadets/

there is a video on linkedin as well
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 16:21
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That's some news! Definitely a game changer...
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 16:23
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interesting times.

new salary figures I've seen for FOs and captains are very appealing too. They are in need of a lot of pilots, on linkedin in the video they mentioned 720 cadets a year. So this bonding was to be expected.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 17:34
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What's the current time to command for an experienced 737 pilot? By experienced I mean exceeding the current command upgrade requirements.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 17:37
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Originally Posted by CharlieTangoCharlie View Post
Certainly a very interesting development. I passed selection two weeks ago and am scheduled to begin end of April. Haven't signed any contract yet, so I'm wondering whether I fall into this new bracket or not..
I'm in exactly the same position. It would be very nice to be offered the new scheme!
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 17:56
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Originally Posted by Windshearescape View Post
What's the current time to command for an experienced 737 pilot? By experienced I mean exceeding the current command upgrade requirements.
 2900 hrs total time
 1500 hrs on CS-25 type aircraft
 800 hrs on B737-800 in Ryanair
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 20:40
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Itís crazy to think I nearly enrolled on an integrated course with a flight school with the intention to pay 30K+ for a type rating with EZY. I certainly dodged a bullet there...
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 20:46
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Itís crazy to think I nearly enrolled on an integrated course with a flight school with the intention to pay 30K+ for a type rating with EZY. I certainly dodged a bullet there...
Well yeah.. but then you wouldn't work for Ryanair!
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 21:03
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"REASONS TO JOIN RYANAIR

No upfront payment of €29,500"

Really, they cite not having to pay €29,500 upfront for the privilege of working for them as a reason to join.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 21:34
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I don't really understand this... I thought there was no shortage of 200 hour cadets? Are they trying to lure away turboprop pilots etc? Bulk up the experience coming in?
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 21:50
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Much as I hate the fact that Easyjet charge for ratings (at the minute) the £30k would be recouped very quickly when compared to the equivalent career path in Ryanair.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 21:54
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Whats not to understand?

There is no shortage of finding 200 hour cadets - but it was a challenge for them to find the €29900 funding.

This guarantees more bite as those who never applied due to affordability actually apply;
Also new applications

and the biggest of all PUBLICITY - in the market where they were once slated - all the people will now be singing their praises!

They will certainly attract lots more - to fill their inevitable attrition rates.

Effectively CAE will sticking more of their chaps through.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 22:00
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All the publicity won't help stem the slating coming their way if the summer goes as expected..

I was recently positioned by Ryanair (under protest) and listening to pax in the que it isn't a happy cabin.. I get people choose them as they are cheap but almost everyone I heard within earshot was complaining and that is before the onslaught of cancellations coming..
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 22:12
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I don't really understand this... I thought there was no shortage of 200 hour cadets? Are they trying to lure away turboprop pilots etc? Bulk up the experience coming in?
Ryanair is certainly after the 5 year bond. That'll stop FOs leaving 2-3 years from starting when they've racked up just enough hours to be interesting elsewhere.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 22:23
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Ryanair is certainly after the 5 year bond. That'll stop FOs leaving 2-3 years from starting when they've racked up just enough hours to be interesting elsewhere.
That I understand.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 23:53
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Guys.... read between the lines....

The only reason for RYR to offer cadets a "free" type-rating is that they have retention issues with their current FOs...

The website already mentions a 5 year bond and I would recommend you to really look at all the conditions attached to it. And that bond most-likely leads to another one for command upgrade. Most likely this 5-to-8 year bond will end up costing you more than self-sponsoring your type ratings... either in money or in your liberty/QOL.

It is Ryanair what we are talking about after all... but it may be some good news for those with no other option.
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Old 6th Mar 2018, 06:03
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As an experienced Captain, its a great day out when I'm flying with a colleague who has say, a couple of 1000 hours, is motivated and experienced on type.

Flying with a 200 hour cadet is fine, but its for 90% of flights , my job all the more harder, more fatiguing and require a higher workload.

Introducing 700 cadets in a year to RYA will up the monitoring levels and ultimately, stress levels of their current captains. Good luck. Especially if ICAO language is only level 4 .
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Old 6th Mar 2018, 07:50
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What that page doesn't say is that there's currently a 5 month wait for line training. Unpaid.
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Old 6th Mar 2018, 07:56
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Ryanair are the sort of 'company' where a handshake with officialdom requires a quick check to see if the wristwatch is still present, the wallet in the pocket and the wedding ring (if worn) still on the appropriate digit...
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Old 6th Mar 2018, 10:16
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Originally Posted by The Foss View Post
It's fairly common information for the last 6 months or so
Don't forget the odd month delay somewhere in the Sim training. All in virtually even split between a 25k discount on the TR and 6 months picking your naval vs. if you paid full price and they got their act together with the training.
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