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Refreshing thread. First airbus delivered.
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/66289-primera-air-scandinavia-adds-first-a321neo
30 more 321s and 737s to follow.
http://newsroom.aviator.aero/primera-air-plans-to-set-up-more-bases-and-fly-eastward/
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https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/66289-primera-air-scandinavia-adds-first-a321neo
30 more 321s and 737s to follow.
http://newsroom.aviator.aero/primera-air-plans-to-set-up-more-bases-and-fly-eastward/
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I just checked BA, same dates, premium econ, from LHR and returning to LGW (cheapest I could find) £1,865.61.
For myself I'm just very interested in how they'll do with the narrow bodies on LH routes to the US and elsewhere as I think this development could really change the entire travel industry in a way that a lot of people still haven't really understood. Norwegian next with A321LRs from mainland Europe in Q1 2019. Watch this space.
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Amazing the way you people chase around bottom feeder jobs.You are killing your own industry but clearly cant see what you are doing
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One man's bottom feeder job can be another's perfect job. It depends on circumstances. As part of your conclusion, what else do you consider above money? Location/base? (i.e. a job that doesn't require you to commute or move house). Opportunity? (maybe a chance to get involved in something your previous airline didn't let you due seniority). A different kind of flying experience? (flying ETOPS A321 is pretty unique after all). If all these things line up they are surely more valuable than an additional €500 (€300 after tax) per month!
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You're being foolish FlyTCI. Stop picking on little points I mentioned above and acting like you know this industry and every persons situation in extreme detail. I may just have been around in this industry as much as you. Primera is no BA, Lufthansa or Air France - we all know that. But precedence for the future was set a long time ago. Nothing anyone can do about that now. The irony is that a lot of people employed by Primera today come from a top 4 or 5 paying employer that went bankrupt last year.
1000s of euros a month? you are funny!
No one would join (in the current recruitment climate) if that was really the case. If you want to talk further, PM me.
1000s of euros a month? you are funny!
No one would join (in the current recruitment climate) if that was really the case. If you want to talk further, PM me.My beef with your post was based on the fact that one should be happy with a lower salary etc just because you gain new experience. I am no happier knowing that I do EDTO in a 737 (BBJ). What makes me happy is that, I would guess, I am pretty close to top of the food chain compared to most EU gigs when it comes to pay and time off aloowing me a good QOL. Granted my employer isn’t from the EU but does allow me to live in Europe. Not bragging, just saying what matters more to me than an added line to my CV.
So what if a bunch of spikey haired, young punks agreed to start paying for their types some 15-20 years ago and the industry started to take advantage of that? Why do we have to allow that precedence to continue to erode our conditions? In case you haven’t noticed, hiring is as good as it’s probably ever going to be in Euroland and the ball has shifted into our court. If we don’t take advantage of that as a group now then we have nobody but ourselves to blame for being taken advantage off. Change has to start somewhere, so why not today?
Look at what is currently happening in the US job market. A few years ago guys flying regional jets were slaving at $18-20k a year, now first year pay has at least doubled in a short matter of time. Not to speak about the big boys and the vast improvement to their contracts over the last couple of years. The pilots have the ace in their hands and they use it to better there hands even further. We can’t the same thing happen in Europe, even if to a lesser extent as the shortage is not as acute in Europe?
If you are happy where you are, then I’m happy for you. I just wish pilots in Europe could gather together and use their collective strength to better the conditions we work under.
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Where to work and for what t&cs is always a very personal question, but one thing is for sure, life is certainly not all about money. I have never applied to Primera, and have therefore never been sent the actual t&cs, but from what I hear easyjet is probably the only airline taking DEC in Europe that can compete with the pay in Primera (UK).
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Birmingham Airport has said it is disappointed to confirm that Primera Air will temporarily suspend flights to New York and Toronto from June 21 due the ongoing late delivery of its long-haul A321neo aircraft from Airbus.
In a press release the airport said that Primera Air has confirmed that it plans to reinstate transatlantic services next year once the aircraft are available and that this announcement does not affect Primera Air’s short haul services in operation from Birmingham.
It added that since launching New York services last month, load factors have been positive, averaging 70%. This reinforces our knowledge that the demand for flights between Birmingham and North America is strong, with a market size already using Birmingham of more than 130,000 passengers.
The carrier says it is contacting all customers booked on services from June 21 to give refunds or transfer onto other services. Flights to Toronto were due to start on June 26.
Affected customers can contact Primera Air at [email protected] or call +44 (0) 148 223 5180. If customers have pre-booked car parking from Birmingham, a full refund will be given by contacting [email protected].
In a press release the airport said that Primera Air has confirmed that it plans to reinstate transatlantic services next year once the aircraft are available and that this announcement does not affect Primera Air’s short haul services in operation from Birmingham.
It added that since launching New York services last month, load factors have been positive, averaging 70%. This reinforces our knowledge that the demand for flights between Birmingham and North America is strong, with a market size already using Birmingham of more than 130,000 passengers.
The carrier says it is contacting all customers booked on services from June 21 to give refunds or transfer onto other services. Flights to Toronto were due to start on June 26.
Affected customers can contact Primera Air at [email protected] or call +44 (0) 148 223 5180. If customers have pre-booked car parking from Birmingham, a full refund will be given by contacting [email protected].
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Yes, delays mainly due to the Leap engine manufacturer and some tech issues in the tail and they can't get the ACMI over the summer to cover the operation.
Real question is it just an delay or an excuse to scrap long haul together out of BHX to focus on STN/CDG due to load factors?
Real question is it just an delay or an excuse to scrap long haul together out of BHX to focus on STN/CDG due to load factors?