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Old 19th Jan 2018, 09:31
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Anybody able to shed any light on the rumours of the operation getting delayed, possibly due to aircraft delivery delays?
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Old 31st Jan 2018, 17:17
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Primera's first 321LR completed maiden flight today.
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Old 31st Jan 2018, 18:01
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anybody willing to share his experience from OCC?

would appreciate if you contact me to give some infos before i start..

Thanks !
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Old 31st Jan 2018, 20:02
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Originally Posted by CaptainProp View Post
Primera's first 321LR completed maiden flight today.

How do you know that?
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Old 1st Feb 2018, 10:01
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News release both from airbus and Primera.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 12:29
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Reading elsewhere on forums that they are cancelling some previously announced new routes and pulling back on frequencies on others.
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Old 8th Mar 2018, 19:32
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How are things progressing from a pilot perspective? Anyone joining, quitting, applying?
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Old 14th Mar 2018, 19:53
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First airbus handover in about a month.

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Old 19th Apr 2018, 06:10
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Refreshing thread. First airbus delivered.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/66289-primera-air-scandinavia-adds-first-a321neo

30 more 321s and 737s to follow.

http://newsroom.aviator.aero/primera-air-plans-to-set-up-more-bases-and-fly-eastward/

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Old 13th May 2018, 15:41
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Any news here? Just did a random check for flight STN-EWR return in premium and got offer for £931. Not bad actually!

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Old 13th May 2018, 17:00
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Any news here? Just did a random check for flight STN-EWR return in premium and got offer for £931. Not bad actually!

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Quite expensive actually, BA has many premium returns for 650.
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Old 13th May 2018, 17:46
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Amazing the way you people chase around bottom feeder jobs.You are killing your own industry but clearly cant see what you are doing
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Old 13th May 2018, 18:47
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Originally Posted by SpGo View Post

Quite expensive actually, BA has many premium returns for 650.
I just checked BA, same dates, premium econ, from LHR and returning to LGW (cheapest I could find) £1,865.61.

Amazing the way you people chase around bottom feeder jobs.You are killing your own industry but clearly cant see what you are doing
For myself I'm just very interested in how they'll do with the narrow bodies on LH routes to the US and elsewhere as I think this development could really change the entire travel industry in a way that a lot of people still haven't really understood. Norwegian next with A321LRs from mainland Europe in Q1 2019. Watch this space.

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Old 14th May 2018, 15:21
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Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero View Post
One man's bottom feeder job can be another's perfect job. It depends on circumstances. As part of your conclusion, what else do you consider above money? Location/base? (i.e. a job that doesn't require you to commute or move house). Opportunity? (maybe a chance to get involved in something your previous airline didn't let you due seniority). A different kind of flying experience? (flying ETOPS A321 is pretty unique after all). If all these things line up they are surely more valuable than an additional Ä500 (Ä300 after tax) per month!
If it were a matter of a Ä500 difference or so between the lower and upper end then no big deal. But as we all know not the case, rather up to 1000s of euros/month instead. But keep eroding the conditions so you can have your unique experience flying an A321 ETOPS (EDTO if you had kept up). Iím sure that added experience will feed your kids and prepare you for a comfortable retirement. Sigh...
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Old 14th May 2018, 16:55
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Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero View Post
You're being foolish FlyTCI. Stop picking on little points I mentioned above and acting like you know this industry and every persons situation in extreme detail. I may just have been around in this industry as much as you. Primera is no BA, Lufthansa or Air France - we all know that. But precedence for the future was set a long time ago. Nothing anyone can do about that now. The irony is that a lot of people employed by Primera today come from a top 4 or 5 paying employer that went bankrupt last year.

1000s of euros a month? you are funny! No one would join (in the current recruitment climate) if that was really the case. If you want to talk further, PM me.
So you are saying thereís not 1000ís of euros per month in difference between the best and worst contracts on offer around Europe?

My beef with your post was based on the fact that one should be happy with a lower salary etc just because you gain new experience. I am no happier knowing that I do EDTO in a 737 (BBJ). What makes me happy is that, I would guess, I am pretty close to top of the food chain compared to most EU gigs when it comes to pay and time off aloowing me a good QOL. Granted my employer isnít from the EU but does allow me to live in Europe. Not bragging, just saying what matters more to me than an added line to my CV.

So what if a bunch of spikey haired, young punks agreed to start paying for their types some 15-20 years ago and the industry started to take advantage of that? Why do we have to allow that precedence to continue to erode our conditions? In case you havenít noticed, hiring is as good as itís probably ever going to be in Euroland and the ball has shifted into our court. If we donít take advantage of that as a group now then we have nobody but ourselves to blame for being taken advantage off. Change has to start somewhere, so why not today?

Look at what is currently happening in the US job market. A few years ago guys flying regional jets were slaving at $18-20k a year, now first year pay has at least doubled in a short matter of time. Not to speak about the big boys and the vast improvement to their contracts over the last couple of years. The pilots have the ace in their hands and they use it to better there hands even further. We canít the same thing happen in Europe, even if to a lesser extent as the shortage is not as acute in Europe?

If you are happy where you are, then Iím happy for you. I just wish pilots in Europe could gather together and use their collective strength to better the conditions we work under.
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Old 15th May 2018, 14:26
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Where to work and for what t&cs is always a very personal question, but one thing is for sure, life is certainly not all about money. I have never applied to Primera, and have therefore never been sent the actual t&cs, but from what I hear easyjet is probably the only airline taking DEC in Europe that can compete with the pay in Primera (UK).

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Old 5th Jun 2018, 13:50
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Birmingham Airport has said it is disappointed to confirm that Primera Air will temporarily suspend flights to New York and Toronto from June 21 due the ongoing late delivery of its long-haul A321neo aircraft from Airbus.

In a press release the airport said that Primera Air has confirmed that it plans to reinstate transatlantic services next year once the aircraft are available and that this announcement does not affect Primera Airís short haul services in operation from Birmingham.

It added that since launching New York services last month, load factors have been positive, averaging 70%. This reinforces our knowledge that the demand for flights between Birmingham and North America is strong, with a market size already using Birmingham of more than 130,000 passengers.

The carrier says it is contacting all customers booked on services from June 21 to give refunds or transfer onto other services. Flights to Toronto were due to start on June 26.

Affected customers can contact Primera Air at [email protected] or call +44 (0) 148 223 5180. If customers have pre-booked car parking from Birmingham, a full refund will be given by contacting [email protected].
Are there delivery delays on the 321s?

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Old 5th Jun 2018, 16:20
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Yes, delays mainly due to the Leap engine manufacturer and some tech issues in the tail and they can't get the ACMI over the summer to cover the operation.
Real question is it just an delay or an excuse to scrap long haul together out of BHX to focus on STN/CDG due to load factors?
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Old 6th Jun 2018, 08:42
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Interesting, wasnít aware of that.

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Old 6th Jun 2018, 10:26
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B737vsA321

Are the salaries between b737 and A321 fleets the same??
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