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Old 10th Aug 2018, 08:38
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Originally Posted by Lolo75020 View Post
The b737 Max 9 is equipped with 1 ACT.
https://www.boeing.com/commercial/737max/#
Just out of curiosity, where did you find this figure of 23T. I fly the MAX 8 of course without Auxiliary tank and on the best day you can fit 21.0T.

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Old 10th Aug 2018, 09:07
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Originally Posted by aless85 View Post
Just out of curiosity, where did you find this figure of 23T. I fly the MAX 8 of course without Auxiliary tank and on the best day you can fit 21.0T.

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The fuel capacity with one act is just the same one as on the b737-900er: 29660.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_Next_Generation
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 11:31
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B737Max9

Here we are, today Primera has lined out the plans for the next season.
3 b737 Max 9 will be based in BRU for the transatlantic flights. I guess few other bases will be soon announced for the b737 long range as they have ordered 20 machines.

I guess the range of the boeing is definitely the same as the 321Neo or even better as Bruxelles is even further than Paris or Stansted.
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Old 3rd Sep 2018, 20:05
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How do rosters on the A321Neo Primera look like?
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Old 16th Sep 2018, 07:29
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Primera A321neo LR

Originally Posted by Airbuskutscher View Post
How do rosters on the A321Neo Primera look like?
ROSTER'S

mmmmmm chaotic, shambles, take your pick. Zero Management, massive issues, I would stay away until we see action to sort out a Business out of control............

It could be fantastic, but it is not anywhere close. Payrise pending, but its not just about the T&C, much more about Management steering the Co to success, we are Rudderless
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Old 16th Sep 2018, 17:17
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Hello future G-V driver,

Maybe you can give me a better insight picture....how is the life as a Crew? are they respect each other.....and how are the hotels on stopover. Have you the possibly to make some workout or use the Gym? Regarding the roster how looks a normal month? how many Standby days can I expect.

How long was your training and the line training after the OPC/LPC? do you see the same problems still exist if the MAX starts to fly? Is it right that 8 A321NEO on order and two of the are A321NEO LR? and when they are expect to put them on the line....it looks like they still have issue due to the delay delivery from Airbus?

Finally my question is it worth thinking about leaving a secured job to work for Primera Air?

Thank you in advance for taken your time to answer my question.

Best Regards
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 21:38
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mmmmmm chaotic, shambles, take your pick. Zero Management, massive issues, I would stay away until we see action to sort out a Business out of control............

It could be fantastic, but it is not anywhere close. Payrise pending, but its not just about the T&C, much more about Management steering the Co to success, we are Rudderless
Primera A321 operation wil have a very short life if it continues like this.
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Old 19th Sep 2018, 06:50
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Can you imagine a life flying 4 to 5 red eyes every month for the rest of your career? They already started with the worst flight times imaginable (Westbound at 1600-1800z and Eastbound between 0300 and 0500z). These were the only slots available.

With any expansion the slots are going to get worse and there is no proper longhaul flying with 3 or 4 crews where you can get some proper sleep in the bunk. A 7 hour two crew red eye sector is the worst flight anyone can do. Sure they exist in other airlines but this is all Primera has to offer you. Even according to management we are always flying in "survival mode". This is the best truth the company has offered. If you are new to LH, think about this before joining guys. It's not for everyone.

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Old 19th Sep 2018, 14:24
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Questions

May can I ask you some questions about Primera?

Are you being in the company since first day of flying LH? If yes is the answer why you joined the company. Of course itís a tough job specially due to departure times and you need to be very restrictive with yourself. Iím not saying that this is definitely my last job but I wanna see something new. Give me a view from your side what are the benefits what are the disadvantages and how are you see the future. In the news they announcing a lot of more airports coming more destinations more planes. To be successful in the future they need to motivate the employees otherwise Stuffing will become difficult a lot of jobs that are actually available.

A lot of Writers in this post has negative opinions and meanings of course this is the right of everyone....and thatís good.

How are you prepare yourself for the 29th of March next year do you have already Plan B.

Thanks for your help

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Old 25th Sep 2018, 07:59
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Originally Posted by wingandprayer View Post
I have been offered a position with Primera, but the contract sucks.......is this the best they can do considering they are short of crew?
Well, the business model depends on it, apparently:

https://www.eurocockpit.be/news/little-differently-philosophy-primera-air

About a year ago the DFO was quoted saying how happy the company was to see airBerlin and Monarch go belly up. Despite most pilots being picked up by the likes of easyjet, BA, Virgin, TUI etc. he argued there will always be a few in the bankrupt companies that slid through the recruitment process once with an established airline, however would have a hard time passing it a second time. Those would be welcomed to join Primera to the conditions you describe, as they would have nowhere else to go...

Sure, not a first hand quote that I've heard myself but a reliable source.
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Old 26th Sep 2018, 08:50
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Utter garbage and rather offensive to myself and my colleagues. Whilst I fully accept terms and conditions need ramping up to attract and retain good crews together with better rostering and planning, the rest is just an ignorant smear. I personally passed selection for 2 other airlines, one in UK and one in Asia. I choose Primera because I could stay on type, live 30 minutes from my base and also do longhaul. The challenges and opportunities in a start up can also be an attraction.

Many of my colleagues are from good airlines like Monarch, Thomas Cook, Turkish, WOW, Alitalia, Gulf Air, Etihad, Jetstar Asia etc as well as a few ex military pilot backgrounds. To say they only ended up at Primera because they weren’t good enough to go anywhere else is a nasty smear irrespective of the alleged source!
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Old 26th Sep 2018, 09:13
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I had some sympathy based on your first paragaph. Then you went and let yourself down with your list of airlines you consider "good". Maybe edit it and put in first world airlines such as BA, AL, KLM, Air France, Lufty, SAS.

You know many pilots actually join major airlines and see out their careers with the one employer. We don't need to chase contracts across the world. Sure sometimes its a bit of luck to avoid one going bust but then I am a firm believer that you make a lot of your own luck in the world.
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Old 26th Sep 2018, 09:36
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I don’t know any Primera flight crew from the very good major airlines you mention. Personally I doubt anyone from BA, Lufty etc would join Primera. We have ended up at Primera either because we want to be closer to home or through redundancy or through lifestyle choice. The operation is potentially ground breaking, low cost narrow body longhaul hasn’t been done before. Either it will catch on with other major players joining in or even buying Primera or it will wither on the vine!
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Old 26th Sep 2018, 15:10
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Don't feed the troll. Ending not in BA/AL in one stage in your career makes no-one a cripple pilot. Not to mention that review of JACDEC shows at least 2 of his chosen creme-dela-creme to be somewhat an under-informed choice.

Many pilots who have carried their families through bankruptcy needed to go full expat or very far away from home. After 2-5 years out, the value of home takes off into a completely another dimension. Hope it works for you, and maybe eventually it will transform into a more tolerable assignment. For instance, the Monarchs at SAIL are trying hard in similar circumstances. Wish success to both.

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Old 27th Sep 2018, 05:47
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a year ago the DFO was quoted saying
He was quoting the DFO. If those are indeed the views of the DFO that is pretty offensive for the crews
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 16:58
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Sad news as we now know - Airline to cease all Ops WIE.

Condolences to all the crews and staff - many came from Monarch who also collapsed a year ago today too...
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 18:08
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Commiserations guys. It remains a brilliant market for pilots, new and old. Chin up and back to work.
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 15:13
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Originally Posted by MCDU2 View Post
I had some sympathy based on your first paragaph. Then you went and let yourself down with your list of airlines you consider "good". Maybe edit it and put in first world airlines such as BA, AL, KLM, Air France, Lufty, SAS.

You know many pilots actually join major airlines and see out their careers with the one employer. We don't need to chase contracts across the world. Sure sometimes its a bit of luck to avoid one going bust but then I am a firm believer that you make a lot of your own luck in the world.
I am not Primera but this is a hell of a stupid comment.
Where do you fly superman?
Troll.
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 15:52
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Originally Posted by Raski View Post
I am not Primera but this is a hell of a stupid comment.
Where do you fly superman?
Troll.
Forgive him for he knows not what he says......from inexperience and ignorance.
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 07:29
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Originally Posted by FlipFlapFlop View Post
Forgive him for he knows not what he says......from inexperience and ignorance.
Yes, i bet another stupid children of magenta trying to look like an airline pilot here.
Definitely an idiot.
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