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Old 28th Feb 2018, 16:09
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FLL Bases

Well in fairness to what Bondi says I have spoken to pilots currently doing their Type Rating and they are trying to find out info about KFLL bases.

They are in the dark as well and do not have a definitive answer. They assume all is well but have not been given any specifics. I do not claim to know what is going on but it seems rather strange any info about this base seems very hard to come by.

There do not appear to be any pilots based there at present with no figures available on aircraft or crew numbers to be based there.

Im not saying they are covering something up or are about to go bust but the lack of information available is puzzling if not worrying. What happens to pilots who gave up jobs for NAS if KFLL fall through.

I find it very strange that it is so hard to find out what is going on with the Florida base and the flight crews.
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Old 28th Feb 2018, 16:58
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I find it very strange that someone would quit a job without a contract...thats worrying?
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Old 28th Feb 2018, 19:00
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calling Bondi a nutter? I can say you have no idea: a colleague and PPRuNe poster that now works for Norwegian says that they find its post vey informative. Some of the things that Bondi mentioned many years ago are turning or already turned into reality...(unfortunately).

I, for one, questioned many things reported by Bondi with different "entities" and sources and I do believe he has been of great help in my assessment of Norwegian. For that I will be forever grateful.
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Old 28th Feb 2018, 19:55
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Originally Posted by Gulf Julliet Papa View Post
I find it very strange that someone would quit a job without a contract...thats worrying?
Who said anything about quitting a job without a contract?
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 01:47
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FLL

The funny thing is there is no info anywhere on the FLL base for pilots. Just what was mentioned in interviews etc.

Its like FLL has already failed and they are trying to hush it up. I know pilots who have signed their contract and started or done the type rating but kind of in the dark as to whats next.

Time will tell I guess. This only pertains to the 787 of course.
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 14:37
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Originally Posted by Luggage View Post
Any changes to the rosters! I was told it was initially the 'W' style roster but wondering if it has changed.

Does anybody know if they have actually started basing pilots out of Fort Lauderdale? I have heard they are short and not quite sure what is going on there. Is it just European crews taking care of those flights for now?

Im hearing massive delays in the training department from a pilot currently on his TR with Norwegian to be FLL based in Florida.

Are pilots able to average say a 4 on 3 off type schedule over a month? Whats the longest one canexpect to be away?
more like 7-9 on and 4-5 off
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 20:07
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Did they actually find anybody willing to fly the 787 out of FLL under the terms that were announced a while back? Lowest paid wide body pilots in the US.
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Old 2nd Mar 2018, 16:00
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FLL 787 Drivers

Yes they did. I personally know of 4 pilots both captains and F.O. who have taken the job, signed the contract and done the type rating.

They are also very experienced pilots with check airmen qualifications, sim instructor qualifications and heavy jet time with no transgressions on their records.

As far as what is happening with FLL and if it is up and running with pilots based there and actually flying out of base...well I have absolutely no idea.
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Old 2nd Mar 2018, 21:03
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As another one with a definite axe to grind, I find it insulting/frustrating/amusing in equal amounts that the NAS "fanboys" always resort to calling Bondi a Nutter , in preference to banishing to the realms of fiction what he posts. . . . . . I wonder why ?

In recent years contracts/bases/continued employment through the Winter (in some years ) has been a bit of a lottery in the company that Norwegian air Shuttle has deteriorated to.

Those of you defending it to the hilt ? well, try it & see, you may be lucky, or, you may be the next one to be screwed over. . . . good luck with that.
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Old 4th Mar 2018, 12:59
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Originally Posted by TangoAlphad View Post
737 is a conventional 3 year bond.. no cash up front but if you leave within 3 they will want some back. Believe 18k over 3 years reducing pro rata.

However I've just heard a rumour NTR on the 73 has just been stopped and candidates will be in a pool for the next while and they will be prioritising TR candidates. As I said only a rumour and I've no idea if true.
Any more info or truth to this rumour? Currently in the NTR pool myself waiting on a start date for the 737Max. I have heard nothing about this?
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Old 4th Mar 2018, 13:15
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Originally Posted by Solenoid View Post
Hi, NTR here, will start with the course during April.
Heard all course from May have been axed. 3rd hand info tho so may not be accurate.
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Old 4th Mar 2018, 16:53
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787 v 737 contract

Which contract seems to be the better option for pilots regardless of aircraft or what you think may be more fun to fly.

At the end of the day job security and career progression has to take precedence.

From what I can see the 737 seems to be the more stable position. Whether that will be a better long term bet than the 787 seems to be anybodys guess right now.
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Old 4th Mar 2018, 20:11
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737 contract is better, better pension and a few more perks, also all the 737 bases have union recognition, which love or hate unions, has made Norwegian a better place to work.

Job security, well 787 pilots have never been laid off, or made to take part time.
737 this happened in 2014 and 2015, but seems to have stopped now.

Career progression is excellent in both operations, plenty of expansion so plenty of chances for promotions base transfers etc...
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 03:05
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Originally Posted by OMDB30R View Post
Be cautious of what Bondi says, as I say this person is a simple nutter and hopefully does not hold any form of “real” license, all this person does is copy and paste......classic looser.
Expect the usual gastropods with their dung-pile intellect to leave their usual trail of mucus responses whenever I reply to a question, correct misinformation, offer new information or an opinion on Norwegian – even though in most cases I “copy and paste” supporting links to corroborate my post (as below).

The ‘airline employee’ is extinct at Norwegian. Aviation career dreams replaced by service industry nightmares of temporary employment – read the contract.

Norwegian's cheerleaders argue your employer is irrelevant. If so, why does PARAT union, who represent Norwegian’s “core” cadre of pilots and flight attendants in Scandinavia, relentlessly continue its fight to win a legal ruling the airline is their real employer? Ref report in DN news 27/2/18:

“Now PARAT’s members appeal the matter of who is the real employer in the Supreme Court”

Link: https://www.dn.no/nyheter/2018/02/27...-norwegian-dom

On its website the Norwegian Pilot Group states; “To form an alliance uniting all Norwegian pilots”

Link: https://norwegianpilotgroup.org/

With more deals being struck than in a Bangkok backstreet market by the various unions representing pilots at the various bases (to their agency employer), and a race to the bottom scheme supported by life forms such as OMDB30R, “an alliance uniting all Norwegian pilots” could not be farther from the truth. Divide and conquer - mission accomplished.

There is indeed a reason the 787 FLL base has stalled. I can offer three words that might help explain it; read my posts.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 04:03
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787 Courses

Originally Posted by EIDW RJ85 View Post
Heard all course from May have been axed. 3rd hand info tho so may not be accurate.
As in no more hiring on the 787, shutting down FLL base or what? To axe all courses has to mean something rather drastic.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 04:04
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Originally Posted by Solenoid View Post
I went for the interview beginning of february and I received the date few days ago.

You might be lucky, keep fingers crossed!
What date did they give you? If all courses are scrapped you must be starting straight away.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 04:08
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FLL base

Originally Posted by Direct Bondi View Post
Expect the usual gastropods with their dung-pile intellect to leave their usual trail of mucus responses whenever I reply to a question, correct misinformation, offer new information or an opinion on Norwegian – even though in most cases I “copy and paste” supporting links to corroborate my post (as below).

The ‘airline employee’ is extinct at Norwegian. Aviation career dreams replaced by service industry nightmares of temporary employment – read the contract.

Norwegian's cheerleaders argue your employer is irrelevant. If so, why does PARAT union, who represent Norwegian’s “core” cadre of pilots and flight attendants in Scandinavia, relentlessly continue its fight to win a legal ruling the airline is their real employer? Ref report in DN news 27/2/18:

“Now PARAT’s members appeal the matter of who is the real employer in the Supreme Court”

Link: https://www.dn.no/nyheter/2018/02/27...-norwegian-dom

On its website the Norwegian Pilot Group states; “To form an alliance uniting all Norwegian pilots”

Link: https://norwegianpilotgroup.org/

With more deals being struck than in a Bangkok backstreet market by the various unions representing pilots at the various bases (to their agency employer), and a race to the bottom scheme supported by life forms such as OMDB30R, “an alliance uniting all Norwegian pilots” could not be farther from the truth. Divide and conquer - mission accomplished.

There is indeed a reason the 787 FLL base has stalled. I can offer three words that might help explain it; read my posts.
Whats your take on the continuation of an FLL base and the hiring onto 787, for crews to be US based?
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 08:49
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On 4 March, 2015, Dagbladet news reported comments by SEPLA President, Javier Martinez de Velasco;

“Pilots must be employed by an airline and cannot be hired from an external crew company”

“The bosses and the office workers, and even the ground staff can be hired out, but not the pilots”

Article link:
https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/nor...leger/60704442

SEPLA recently signed a collective agreement with Norwegian Air Resources, effectively accepting its members flying for Norwegian are temporary and rented service industry employees and not airline employees. Furthermore, with no union representation to the airline – their real employer.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 12:16
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Here we go again. Bondi posts and a small number then slag him off. Not one ever counteracts his comments with anything that resembles serious rebuttal. Why is that ?
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 17:48
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Solenoid are you type rated? Which seat?

I passed selection in October and despite saying I am available to every single course start date (except one) I have still not been offered one 5 months later. I haven't even been offered June.

NTR FO 4000 hrs. Anyone similar position?
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