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Old 5th Mar 2018, 19:58
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Originally Posted by Luggage
In fairness to Bondi or anybody else that may have been ranting on about NAS, they seem to be posting links and information regarding issues at NAS which must be discussed.

In fairness to you I will take you at your word as a happy employee and believe you when you say there has been improvements made and a lot of happy people work there.

However this FLL 787 scenario and course date issue seems a little suspect. It is because I know of pilots there now doing the rating that are still in the dark as to what is going on which seems a little odd to me.

However time will tell whether this venture will work or not. NAS must have done something right to be where they are today and clearly people like you are happy there so I will be interested to see what others say going forward.
More interested to see how NAS plan to staff their fleet if there is a hiatus on recruitment. They are adding something like another 18 787-9's by 2021. Kinda suggests to me that the rumour is guff.


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Old 5th Mar 2018, 20:12
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NAS Graphic

Where did you get the NAS graphic. I would like to read the accompanying article if there is one.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 20:23
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Q4 Interim Financial Report, presentation.

https://www.norwegian.com/globalasse...esentation.pdf

Financials detail here:

https://www.norwegian.com/globalasse...017-report.pdf

All reports:

https://www.norwegian.com/uk/about/c...presentations/

Happy to help.
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Old 6th Mar 2018, 06:08
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Not so fast. Norwegian could abandon the UK if the trans Atlantic open skies is not resolved.
Search for Open skies in Todays The Sun:


http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5733920...o-leave-europe
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Not so fast. Norwegian could abandon the UK if the trans Atlantic open skies is not resolved.
Search for Open skies in Todays The Sun:


http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5733920...o-leave-europe
As could BA, VS, BY, MT, AA, UA, DL .....

Originally Posted by Luggage

However this FLL 787 scenario and course date issue seems a little suspect. It is because I know of pilots there now doing the rating that are still in the dark as to what is going on which seems a little odd to me.

You have said they are on a type rating, and have a contract so what exactly are they in the dark about?
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Old 6th Mar 2018, 11:37
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How much money can they afford to burn before investors are getting worried? They really increased the burning of money now with a load factor down by 2.0% and a RASK down by 6%:

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DNB market analysts came out today saying they expect an EBITDA of minus 223 mill for 2018, and a plus of 1,2 billion for 2019.
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Originally Posted by directmisbi
DNB market analysts came out today saying they expect an EBITDA of minus 223 mill for 2018, and a plus of 1,2 billion for 2019.
Source? Maybe a link?
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You have said they are on a type rating, and have a contract so what exactly are they in the dark about?[/QUOTE]

About FLL and whether it is viable as a base and will become fully operational!
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Old 7th Mar 2018, 07:51
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Im not sure what you term or deem fully operational? It has been a cabin crew base for about 2/3 years, and now also a pilot base for I guess about a year. Your friend applied to be a pilot based in FLL. In terms of aircraft, you could say none are based, but your friend will start/finish his duty in FLL on one of the 14 or so weekly departures/arrivals.
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Old 10th Mar 2018, 21:02
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FLL

Why are no aircraft based in FLL? My understanding is this was suppossed to happen but has not.
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Norwegian keeps normally 787 around 2h on the ground during the turn...
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 08:17
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Originally Posted by Luggage
Why are no aircraft based in FLL? My understanding is this was suppossed to happen but has not.
I *think* it was only ever announced as a crew base? I'd suspect if you had an aircraft "Based" there it would lead to poor utilisation, FLL > Europe is a fairly short sector compared to most.
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 16:39
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Originally Posted by Gulf Julliet Papa
I *think* it was only ever announced as a crew base? I'd suspect if you had an aircraft "Based" there it would lead to poor utilisation, FLL > Europe is a fairly short sector compared to most.
Im not so sure about that. I am fairly certain they were suppossed to base aircraft there. They were also to allow FAA pilots to fly the aircraft whilst studying for the EASA which has also failed to materialise.

Like I said the pilots I know who are training are being kept in the dark about certain aspects of this job. It seems that NAS themselves are not too confident on this whole FLL situation working out.

The pilots I know are training and asking questions whilst being given very vague answers. OSM does not seem to be reliable as a contract agency at all either.

For this to work they will need to base aircraft in the US along with maintenance or it just becomes to expensive and non reliable. Just like the 2017 season of constantly having to hire aircraft from operators like Wamos Air (Spanish) and others.
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 17:25
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Originally Posted by Luggage
Im not so sure about that. I am fairly certain they were suppossed to base aircraft there. They were also to allow FAA pilots to fly the aircraft whilst studying for the EASA which has also failed to materialise.

Like I said the pilots I know who are training are being kept in the dark about certain aspects of this job. It seems that NAS themselves are not too confident on this whole FLL situation working out.

The pilots I know are training and asking questions whilst being given very vague answers. OSM does not seem to be reliable as a contract agency at all either.

For this to work they will need to base aircraft in the US along with maintenance or it just becomes to expensive and non reliable. Just like the 2017 season of constantly having to hire aircraft from operators like Wamos Air (Spanish) and others.

US pilots based in FLL all operate under an EASA validation and have two years to convert their FAA license to an equivalent EASA license.
FLL is a crew base. It's well known.

Sorry to say, but either you are a lier/troll or your friends are complete retards.
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 21:37
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Originally Posted by lansen
US pilots based in FLL all operate under an EASA validation and have two years to convert their FAA license to an equivalent EASA license.
FLL is a crew base. It's well known.

Sorry to say, but either you are a lier/troll or your friends are complete retards.
I think you better look in the mirror when it comes to retards. There is no more 2 year validation...FACT....

They are all doing EASA licences first then they start the job. The IAA never allowed the validation.

I would think you want to know this before posting more rubbish!!

Dont believe me, make some enquiries..
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 23:08
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Originally Posted by Luggage
For this to work they will need to base aircraft in the US along with maintenance or it just becomes to expensive and non reliable. Just like the 2017 season of constantly having to hire aircraft from operators like Wamos Air (Spanish) and others.
It seems that the “certain aspects of the job” that your friends have been “kept in the dark” with are driven by rumour, assumptions and guestimations by people that have nothing to do with norwegian nor have any intention of joining and just out to stir. Your friends have access to an internal website, and TREs etc which would provide a lot of answers if they were really that concerned or bothered.

Why does a CREW base require an aircraft and maintenance base to work? I’m really confused by this? As far as the pilot is concerned, his duty starts and finishes at FLL, I’m not sure how the rest matter?
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Old 12th Mar 2018, 15:57
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As far as the pilot is concerned, his duty starts and finishes at FLL, I’m not sure how the rest matter?
What's the crack with commuting at DY or daren't I ask...

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Old 13th Mar 2018, 12:48
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Originally Posted by Gulf Julliet Papa
It seems that the “certain aspects of the job” that your friends have been “kept in the dark” with are driven by rumour, assumptions and guestimations by people that have nothing to do with norwegian nor have any intention of joining and just out to stir. Your friends have access to an internal website, and TREs etc which would provide a lot of answers if they were really that concerned or bothered.

Why does a CREW base require an aircraft and maintenance base to work? I’m really confused by this? As far as the pilot is concerned, his duty starts and finishes at FLL, I’m not sure how the rest matter?
Well this is U.S. "definition" of base. Planes, crew room, maintanace, crewtrackers etc. Very complex and expensive."Base" means seniority issues and rules.It's how it works in U.S.
European side works bit differently, "base" might be only crew, some times even part of crew, sometimes temporarily, sometimes mixed. Very flexible, especially in low cost segment.Sometimes operated by contractor crews. My understanding for Norwegian's FLL Is more "reverse schedullung"operations network wide with only one significant difference:joblisted at U.S registered branch of OSM. And this part is most problematic for Norwegian so far regarding unions..and reason why it's not really works well. I guess if they will finish soon this experiment, U.S. pilots can get residency in Ireland and continue work for Irish OSM. Maybe I'm wrong....
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 16:03
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Originally Posted by TangoAlphad
Commute for free on S2 tickets on any fleet. S2 is higher priority than ID90's and will get you on crew seats avail also ie jump seats.
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Sorry i should have been more specific. Commuting as in prior to FDP or not?
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