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Old 21st Sep 2017, 10:37
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Norwegian Long Haul Roster

Few questions about NLH:

What kind of roster can a FO expect?

Is there a "better schedule" depending on the base? (LGW vs BCN)

How hard is to change bases?

How hard is to upgrade in the 737? (move to Short Haul)

And to move to RCA and CA in the 787?

Is true that they give you days off out of your operating base?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 22:29
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Also interested in this. Formal standby days per month, average layovers down route, changes to contract after the initial 3 years.

Interested in the long haul gig.
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 12:21
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Seems to be a well kept secret. Which is somewhat alarming.
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 12:55
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I spoke to a chap in the company a while back, pretty honest. Told me expect to deadhead a lot as part of the job.

Not sure that would be too fun mindful of the lack of a business class on their operation. Especially if deadhead comes at the end of an extended duty.

Not part of the operation so happy to keep an open mind, as the above was purely "chat" at an event. However, I suspect many wont apply unless we know what is being signed up to.

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Old 18th Jan 2018, 00:27
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This question(s) has been asked dozens of times in previous NLH threads. To date , only anecdotal info provided.

Don’t expect much !
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Old 18th Jan 2018, 16:34
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There's no secret. Just ask Rishworth. They can provide some example rosters.
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Old 18th Jan 2018, 17:21
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de fumo in flammam

You're spot on there. Positioning in Economy was one of the listed grievances that caused TCook to go on strike last year. You need a good working practice agreement to deal with all these issues or you rapidly have no life at all.
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Old 2nd Feb 2018, 08:53
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Can anyone share a typical roster?

Does it depend on base?
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Old 2nd Feb 2018, 12:03
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To answer any questions and provide information on the long haul roster may reflect negatively on the Dreamyliner lifestyle. Norwegian’s lynch mob/red nose numpties would never allow that (see what follows this post).

Roster information has been requested and flatly ignored many times previously. This suggests the roster is exceptionally bad. Moreover, it suggests little is being done or can be done to improve it.

Despite the purported welcome extended to unions, Norwegian’s 787 pilot fraternity have no union representation directly with the airline. This precludes any collective agreement with Norwegian and its pilots (including “guaranteed” seniority) with which the airline must legally comply.

The irony is that Norwegian’s 787 pilots fly with US based cabin crews who are members of the AFL-CIO union, with direct and powerful representation to the airline. Norwegian’s “welcome” to that particular outcome was reported in the media:

“Norwegian tried to stop cabin crew connection to powerful trade unions” – Link:

https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/uhy...mming/67506473

Norwegian and the service providers from which they temporarily rent 787 pilots, all proclaim to “answer any questions you may have”. Clearly, they do not.
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Old 3rd Feb 2018, 12:59
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Originally Posted by Direct Bondi View Post
To answer any questions and provide information on the long haul roster may reflect negatively on the Dreamyliner lifestyle. Norwegian’s lynch mob/red nose numpties would never allow that (see what follows this post).
Dude, looking at your history of posts at PPRuNe makes it clear to me that you have nothing better to do than to grind your anti-Norwegian ax! From what I can make out you no longer work for them...? Free advice buddy: Move on man, move on!
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Old 3rd Feb 2018, 13:18
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Originally Posted by Bus Driver Man View Post
There's no secret. Just ask Rishworth. They can provide some example rosters.
I did the above , received no reply, despite using my Rishworth login account .

Direct Bondi provide factual info . His input is useful. Dont shoot the messenger.

Most pilots in NLH consider their options and then sign up anyway . Even if they have to deposit €40000 of their own cash into an unknown bank account .

Its a choice you make to escape the humdrum funkery of working overseas or being a bored & retired , former legacy long haul jockey .
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Old 3rd Feb 2018, 14:01
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Why are you asking then, you seem to have all the answers already?
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Old 3rd Feb 2018, 14:18
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Bondi what is your problem? You are assuming stuff and at the same time demand to have your voice heard and respected. How cute. Why would anybody be so stupid to publicly share his or her roster on a forum like this? Ever heard of anonymity?

10 days guaranteed off (4 or 5 days in a row possible. Also back to back possible), 3-4 flights each month with each flight having usually a minimum one or max three day layover, expect 750h/year.
Just do the math.

It's possible to bid for the 737 after your bonding has finished after three years. Being three years in the company, it will not be hard to switch fleets. There has also been cases of people switching fleets within the bonding, but it's not common practice.

The upgrade is available when you have the required hours for it.
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Old 3rd Feb 2018, 15:22
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Originally Posted by highfive View Post
I did the above , received no reply, despite using my Rishworth login account .
See attachments for the example rosters.
Maybe they stopped providing example rosters, because this prevented a lot of people from applying? It might be ok if you're single and if you don't mind being away from home, but spending 10-14 days in a row away from your family doesn't seem appealing.
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Old 3rd Feb 2018, 15:57
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Thanks for that. You’re right, if you wanna have a family life it doesn’t look ideal.
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Old 4th Feb 2018, 07:36
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Originally Posted by Bus Driver Man View Post
See attachments for the example rosters.
Thank you very much. Those look wonderful compared to what I've been getting in the Sandpit for the past five years. Look for me at DY in 2018.
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Old 4th Feb 2018, 08:07
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Very GOOD rosters indeed if you live close to base.
Typical LH. and with sufficient rest between flights.
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Old 4th Feb 2018, 08:50
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One roster is from AUG 2017, the others from 2016 and probably not representative of what's happening now or? The one from 2017 doesn't look that bad actually and it's still a 84 hours roster.
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Old 4th Feb 2018, 09:15
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For commuters, it looks great. I believe that you can request days off in various patterns depending on your lifestyle/commute: 4-4-2, or 5-5, or 10 consecutive days monthly. I imagine a 4-4-2 pattern would be great at the base and a 5-5 if your commute is not too far. The salaries don't look very attractive, though.
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Old 4th Feb 2018, 11:54
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£7600/ month for skippers ( full tax for uk resident) would be a pay cut for 90% of guys who meet the lhs requirments. Even THY pay more haha.

21 - 22 days away as I understood it, has been normal ops. Was 3 years ago when I went through the process. The increase of bases and aircraft may have a positive change on time away.

Most retirees, single and or divorced pilots are married to flying and time away is generally a bonus .

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