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Ryanair Cancelling flights!

Old 6th Feb 2018, 13:52
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I can just visualise the red flag with a hammer and sickle flying over your house and sewn on your flight-bag!

Any strike over Easter could be a perfect way of reducing the pilots' annual hours/days with someone else to blame!

How many airlines are there left in the UK now that don't have meaningful BALPA involvement?

Read a very good article recently about how the extreme of dealing with a union was a strike, while the extreme of not dealing with a union is that pilots leave. The total disruption caused by a strike is much less than the total disruption caused by pilots leaving, especially during periods (now!) of pilot shortages.
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Old 6th Feb 2018, 15:49
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while the extreme of not dealing with a union is that pilots leave
Good point Trossie, after a strike you still have a workforce.

it would be nice to see some actual strike action
Psychopathic viewpoint, the travelling public would have their travel plans disrupted.
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Old 6th Feb 2018, 16:13
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The travelling public want cheap tickets, even at the cost of the lifestyle of a pilot. They deserve to have their travel plans disrupted if they buy tickets knowing the pilot force of an airline is unhappy and threatening industrial action!
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Old 6th Feb 2018, 17:05
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New Start-Up airline. "Fair-trade Express." Required, but doubt it will ever happen.
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Old 6th Feb 2018, 17:41
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For me it seems they want cheap tickets even at the cost of saftey....

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Old 6th Feb 2018, 18:10
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The passengers know what they are getting when they buy tickets with Ryanair - and pilots at Ryanair knew what they were getting when they signed up and paid for their ratings.

The passengers are not to blame ...
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Old 6th Feb 2018, 18:26
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Same could be said about blood diamonds, cobalt, bananas, coffee.

Still doesn’t make poor treatment of staff legitimate.
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Old 6th Feb 2018, 19:21
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Genius. And I suppose those pax who booked on BA a few months back should have been wary because of BA's track record with dodgy IT!

And those idiots who booked Monarch holidays too...

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Old 6th Feb 2018, 21:24
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I bet they didnt have Michael O'Leary claiming it was bad weather over Italy when actually he didnt have any pilots to fly his jets!
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Old 7th Feb 2018, 09:31
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In previous posts I have mentioned that their crewing issue will take at least 12 months to begin to right itself. There is no doubt the blame game is starting now, strikes or no strikes. They will have a good idea of the training through put for summer 2018 and also whether they are managing to retain people, my guess, it is going to be super tight on what is planned. This message about 'the platoons of goons' is not just for the media/passenger benefit but also for the various regulators. If you take the UK CAA it could not care to hoots who flies the passengers (viz a viz Qatar can appear at the drop of a regulators pen) so woe betide whoever messes up someones 9.99 flight. Ryanair's management are getting the narrative sorted early so they can move out of the sights, the aim is being directed.....answers on a postcard.
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Old 7th Feb 2018, 14:47
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Europe's healthiest economy is doing great.
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Old 7th Feb 2018, 15:19
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I'm not an expert but according to recruitment figures, RYR will recruit another thousand pilot within 2018, mostly cadet.
Correct me if I'm wrong but this lead us to 2100 pilots in two years so half the pilot workforce. woooww
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Old 7th Feb 2018, 16:43
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Interesting Year ahead!

Anyone interested in Terms and Conditions in Europe does well to read anything RYR has on the news bulletins.

As for the ca 500 10 years plus Veterans , some are feed up with the whole show. Especially watching Igor from Vladivostok and the likes sailing into the LH seat at his preferred base at 156 000 euro a year as an RYR employee!

I have made my predictions, and it looks like MOL has made a worstcase that is close.

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Old 7th Feb 2018, 20:15
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Interesting times indeed

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Old 8th Feb 2018, 13:57
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Ryanair's Spanish pilots' union launches legal actions against airline

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Old 8th Feb 2018, 17:36
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It really amazes me why people would accept a sham contract as a pilot. Full-time employment, or your employer is taking you for a fool. Come on guys, you deserve better!
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Old 9th Feb 2018, 00:23
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Now entering what is probably RYR's biggest "non operation" expense. The airline is nearly 2nd to their law firm! I bet this doesn't get far, though I bloody hope it does. Good luck.
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 14:28
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Ryanair pilots for dismissal of CEO

Ryanair-Piloten fordern Absetzung von Michael O'Leary

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Old 27th Feb 2018, 15:35
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Story in English (Reuters):
Ryanair pilot group calls for CEO O'Leary's resignation
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 15:35
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Brexit closing GLA

Apparently Brexit is the reason that GLA base is closing.. I'm assuming thats not the whole truth here..?
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