Ryanair Cancelling flights!
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Ryanair Cancelling flights!
Ryanair just cancelled 2 flights out of spain because there is no crew! According to managment Ryanair has enough captains 😩
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Were was this and how do you now for a fact it was due to lack of crew.
They would take the Learjet and fly in crew if they had any or fly a spare aircraft with crew in if any inside say 2-3 hrs range.
Just curious were?
They would take the Learjet and fly in crew if they had any or fly a spare aircraft with crew in if any inside say 2-3 hrs range.
Just curious were?
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quick look on the website shows 3 flights from CRL canx for bad weather (even though its fine) to corfu ,pisa and santander
Stn canx malaga and beziers
bcn canx vigo and ibiza
7 flights out of CIA canx
5 out of pisa canx
2 out of lisbon canx
Mostly refers to bad weather although it doesn't seem too bad out there now
Stn canx malaga and beziers
bcn canx vigo and ibiza
7 flights out of CIA canx
5 out of pisa canx
2 out of lisbon canx
Mostly refers to bad weather although it doesn't seem too bad out there now
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This idea of cancelling flights due Wx or ATC has been tried many times before so that 'extraneous circumstances' can be claimed by the operator & no EU compensation paid. I thought that dubious practice had been exposed and thwarted previously. If that is correct, and if these stories are correct, how can this attempt at scurrilous excuses succeed?
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It can succeed because your average passenger doesn't know how to determine if the weather is actually bad enough to cancel a flight. They see some clouds out there and take the airline's word for it.
It makes me very happy to see that they have crew problems. After screwing the crew for so long, it was long overdue for the roles to reverse. I also hope this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Ideally the Ryanair crew will follow the pilots from Thomas Cook and go on strike for few days.
It makes me very happy to see that they have crew problems. After screwing the crew for so long, it was long overdue for the roles to reverse. I also hope this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Ideally the Ryanair crew will follow the pilots from Thomas Cook and go on strike for few days.
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Well they could go on strike. I think an airline this short on crew is going to be pretty powerless if half the workforce don't turn up one morning, unionised or not.
But of course this won't happen, the majority of Ryanair pilots either have no backbone or would use such an event as an excuse to boost their own career prospects ("look at me, I turned up when everyone else didn't").
Excellent news nonetheless, and certainly more cancellations to follow.
But of course this won't happen, the majority of Ryanair pilots either have no backbone or would use such an event as an excuse to boost their own career prospects ("look at me, I turned up when everyone else didn't").
Excellent news nonetheless, and certainly more cancellations to follow.
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Just a few cancelled flights yesterday...
https://www.cloud.scorebuddy.co.uk/ryanair-services/cancellations.php?date=2017-09-10
Yes some are genuine weather/tech. But a lot compared to other days!
https://www.cloud.scorebuddy.co.uk/ryanair-services/cancellations.php?date=2017-09-10
Yes some are genuine weather/tech. But a lot compared to other days!
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One thing I could add: In my experience Ryanair are highly reluctant to cancel flights for any reason, let alone transitory weather conditions. Generally they would delay them as long as crew duty permits or call up a standby crew as necessary. This is certainly odd that they would cancel nearly 80 flights solely for weather reasons. In my personal opinion, if they had standby crew they would mostly have been operated, one way or another.
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80 is a lot, especially for a company with bases and aircraft all around the network.
Or maybe, it wasnt a lack of pilots, maybe the 2 people that day in crewing called sick and this was the outcome! I mean, a couple of crewers for 10,000 cabin crew and 4000 pilots is just a bit to 'lean'
Or maybe, it wasnt a lack of pilots, maybe the 2 people that day in crewing called sick and this was the outcome! I mean, a couple of crewers for 10,000 cabin crew and 4000 pilots is just a bit to 'lean'
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Doesn't matter anymore anyway , according to the IT guys in Ryanair , soon we won't be an airline anymore , gonna be an online digital something or other . maybe they should have flown the planes .
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They can't strike, because they are not organized in a workers union.
Self-employed? Surely you just phone in as 'unavailable' or 'on another job that has taken a bit longer than expected' or 'I'm sick' or ..........Ive been diverted and will be a couple of hours late, or......
Self-employed? Surely you just phone in as 'unavailable' or 'on another job that has taken a bit longer than expected' or 'I'm sick' or ..........Ive been diverted and will be a couple of hours late, or......
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Big list of cancellations today.....all due to French ATC of course. MOL has constantly called out ATC
“We need to deregulate air traffic control. And there has been no deregulation of airports, airport monopolies have not been broken up,” he says. “The problem is, we do not have a Peter Sutherland any more, there is nobody there with the will or the bottle to break up the airport or air traffic control monopolies.”
and deregulation has worked so well to improve airline T & C's
“We need to deregulate air traffic control. And there has been no deregulation of airports, airport monopolies have not been broken up,” he says. “The problem is, we do not have a Peter Sutherland any more, there is nobody there with the will or the bottle to break up the airport or air traffic control monopolies.”
and deregulation has worked so well to improve airline T & C's
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Shortage of crew is a becoming a big issue. Not sure how next summer will shape up when this summer wasn't finalised until April. Many asking where their €10,000 is for staying with the company after 10+ years. How to alienate your workforce. Give DE FOs their base of choice instead of the loyal ones already in the company. FOs with base transfers in to their home bases being told there's no space for them yet DE FOs being put into them instead. There you have a reason why there is a shortage of experienced FOs. SFIs, who are FOs, only flying ~90hrs a year as they're always in the sim. "The best roster in the business; stable 5 on 4 off pattern"....yeah, right. Maybe 5 years ago, not my experience anyway. Duties changed without notifying the crew in advance. There are cases where they don't even know where people are when they're at work - crewing calling their home numbers asking for them when they're at work?
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Just to put things into perspective on how badly T's and C's have fallen.
A friend of mine got his command in Stansted with Ryanair in 2001. His net salary per month was roughly £5000.
Today 16 years later a Captain in Stansted earns roughly the same.
A friend of mine got his command in Stansted with Ryanair in 2001. His net salary per month was roughly £5000.
Today 16 years later a Captain in Stansted earns roughly the same.
