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Old 21st Dec 2017, 15:05
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Yepp, don't know why impact doesn't join...
And news from Italy, Portugal and Spain?
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 15:36
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It strikes me that Ryanair's problems are much deeper than a shortage of flight deck. Having read a comprehensive analysis with timeline of this years events by Bloomberg they are going to be running flat out for some time to get back on track. MOL admitted he took the eye off the ball with Pilot salaries. Behind all the pronouncements that his pilots now get paid 20% more than others a quick look around will show that they are marginally below what would be considered average. No wonder the new chap has stated number 1 thing is to stop people leaving. Here they have a problem because what is left is not the 'talent' the business needs going forward. In fact my guess is one of the fundamental problems is that the Base Pilot managers are not much cop. Those with any drive, initiative, can do spirit have long since departed the fix.

Sound leadership will be required at all levels, not just in the head shed.

I also wonder how much 'talent' has left from other departments over the last 12 months. It will be interesting to see if they bring in folk from outside at lower levels to try and improve things or certainly give the perception of 'making an effort'.

Not surprised a strike is still going ahead......
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 20:29
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Ryan Air Strike in Germany

Tomorrow Ryan Air Pilots are going on a 4 hour strike in Germany.
For the very first time in the history of the airline.

Go, guys and gals, go!

You have my support, get some change going in your company.
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 22:28
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Iím normally not for supporting strikes but in this case I wish the German strikers all the best. Good for you for making a stand.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 03:44
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Will be interesting to see how many flights get in the air. Ryanair is advising passengers to show up as normal.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 05:46
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The "strike" is just 4 hours, which actually represents a delay due to "extraordinary circumstances " so it will be interesting to see if the pax get any compensation. Although the strike times are pretty early and the impact will be marginal ... lets see!
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 07:19
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Marginal? Are you sure you know what youíre talking about?

Thatís the whole first wave of flights, followed by the return legs and any other subsequent flights that crew member was due to do during their duty.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 07:26
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All FR flights in Berlin seem to have departed..
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 07:39
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Vereinigung Cockpit in Germany: Tweet.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 08:03
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If all the German flights have departed as scheduled then if Ryanair are smart they won't say boo...
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 08:23
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Must have been an amusing sight to see Ryanair towels draped over the aircraft this morning.

In view of progress, no one in their right mind will say boo
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 08:29
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Just want to make sure I am grasping this correctly - during a live strike of German Ryanair pilots , other Ryanair pilots and aircraft arrived in to operate at a base during a strike?
Or am I off the mark - genuine question.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 08:37
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Exactly right mate. Stupid certainly springs to mind.

When your colleagues are striking and you show up for work ... WTF! What a bunch of morons.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 09:05
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Stick together boys or you will all loose...
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 09:07
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I would like to think it was "management pilots" operating those aircraft this morning. Otherwise Ryanair's divide and conquer is as strong as always. It is the same as your fellow workers walking by you on the picket line!!!
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 09:11
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Sorry but from FR 24 it seems there is no delays at all from main ryr german bases?
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 09:21
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I sure hope the unions from Portugal , Ireland etc are watching how this has been dealt with.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 09:37
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The even bigger question is, did the pilots from the German bases actually strike or they are all talk and no action?
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 10:52
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According to the VC twitter account, they did go on strike, but a lot of the flights left on time, crewed by contractors and people from other bases.

Before you all start shouting scabs, remember one thing: in most countries in Europe sympathy strikes are unlawful, and as such, if you're called in to work for strikebreaking purposes in another country, you have no choice but to go to work. Refusing to work will most certainly land you in hot water with the employer, and will also compromise the unions who will most likely be facing a courtcase for inciting unlawful industrial action!

Make sure you know the facts before accusing anyone for 'crossing the picket line'!
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 10:53
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Have in mind the strike was only for 4 hours, so no cancellations could be expected anyway, only delays.

According to FR statement on their website 9 out of 36 departures In Germany this morning have been delayed and that they are happy Ryanair pilots did not follow the call for strike of the "Lufthansa (VC) pilots Union".

What I could see is, that 3 of 5 flights out of each Hahn and Weeze had significant delays until after 9 am, one in Cologne, one in Berlin and one in Karlsruhe/Baden. Frankfurt seemed not to be affected.

According to German press and on their website, VC states they are happy with the outcome. They say the vast majority of the pilots employed by Ryanair that were called to strike were striking and almost half of the flights that could be affected by the strike had significant delays. The flights that operated normally were operated by contractors, who were not called to strike. In Frankfurt they state, most of the pilots are still in probation, so could not strike without risking losing their jobs. They say their plan was not to cause major disruptions short before Christmas but to show Ryanair that they can mobilize employed pilots of Ryanair, which they say was succesful.
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