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Old 17th Oct 2017, 20:37
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Much tougher job for him this time round now the pilots and cabin crew have started to realise who has the power.
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 21:04
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Carpe diem or in English, seize the opportunity, is where Ryanair pilots and cabin crew must now be at. I sincerely hope you all stick together in the face of what I see to be the most unpleasant corporate bullying tactics I can imagine, it is possibly worse than those used in North Korea.
I am not aircrew, just an aviation minded business owner who values my employees; because while not appearing on the balance sheet they make the company what it is, and what our customers like about us. And I also understand, appreciate and reward the support we get from their families, when we all need to work long and inconvenient hours to finish a job or look after a customer.
In my view the ethics of Ryanair as a business stink, I will never forget their decision a long time ago to charge extra for disabled passenger facilities. It might be the Pound Shop of the aviation world, but at least that company treats its staff and customers well, otherwise they wouldn’t have any. How does any employee (or contractor) proudly wear the uniform or tell friends, new and old, they work for Ryanair? If I met someone who said he/she was a Ryanair Captain I would feel sorry for them rather than have respect.
I have only once travelled with the airline, it wasn’t disastrous, just unpleasant, mainly because the cabin crew were a bit like zombies doing what they had probably be told to do and nothing more.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 11:59
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If I met someone who said he/she was a Ryanair Captain I would feel sorry for them rather than have respect.

I think any Captain who is incharge of an $80 million jet carrying 200 passengers deserves some respect!
Being a Captain is a difficult job, probably even more so flying for Ryanair, especially when you take into account the challenging airports Ryanair fly into. In my view the only difference between a Ryanair/BA/Virgin/Thomson/Easyjet Captain is the paint on the side of the aircraft.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 17:54
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Peter Bellew to return to Ryanair, commencing December 1st. His role will be COO.

Having left a reasonably stable outfit for the sunshine, why would he return knowing there is a hiding to nothing awaiting. Own bed can be attractive, but.........the new seat will be hotter than the one he left previously.

...flying for Ryanair, especially when you take into account the challenging airports Ryanair fly into.

Are you sure? There are many many challenging airports RYR choose NOT to fly to, but others do. I'm not sure of which particularly challenging airports you refer to.

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Old 18th Oct 2017, 18:16
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Marchettiman - There are plenty of employers offering better T&C's for flight crew these days. However, don't feel too sorry for me. On my salary I'm in the top 2% of earners in the UK.

My next airline will both pay and treat me better I'm sure, but as far as feeling sorry for me and worrying about how I tell my friends I work for RYR. Firstly they all know, and secondly I'm on 3 times more than what my mates make, one of which is an architect.

I wear my uniform with pride because of the hard work I've put in to get the stripes, and the way I conduct myself. I care not if someone such as yourself, who doesn't know what it is we actually do (bit like the CEO) feels we don't deserve any respect. That won't be keeping me up at night.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 20:16
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Are you sure? There are many many challenging airports RYR choose NOT to fly to, but others do. I'm not sure of which particularly challenging airports you refer to.

CCN circle to land. 4 path. 1800 meter runway??
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 07:24
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Originally Posted by Quasar2548 View Post
Are you sure? There are many many challenging airports RYR choose NOT to fly to, but others do. I'm not sure of which particularly challenging airports you refer to.

CCN circle to land. 4 path. 1800 meter runway??
What airport is CCN?
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 07:35
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What airport is CCN?
Carcassonne, France. The correct code is CCF.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 07:52
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Circling isn't challenging. 4 degree slope isn't challenging. 1800 meter runway - flap 40, autobrake 3, detent 2 reverse stops you in less even at MLM.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 08:10
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Oh Peter is back with a special mission....
Peter will lead a significant transformation in the way we reward and interact with our pilots, improve their working environment and career development over the coming years
What does that do the Chief People Officer Eddie the eagle?

Get the pop corn out....

The transformation of the relation with the crew will be in line with the change to a nice Ryanair... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNUJ_td7eJc
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 08:44
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Circling isn't challenging
I'd rather do a straight in if possible!
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 10:38
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan View Post
Circling isn't challenging. 4 degree slope isn't challenging. 1800 meter runway - flap 40, autobrake 3, detent 2 reverse stops you in less even at MLM.
I could flop mine out on the table as well but I doubt you have a ruler long enough.

Joking aside, the point being made is that Ryanair routinely fly to the smaller airports so routinely fly approaches other than radar vectored ILS approaches, even if they don't necessarily fly to all of the hardest cat C airfields. Although I suspect you already knew that.

To be honest when I see the disruption caused by some of the trickier, cat C destinations I have to wonder if it's worth all the hassle. Albeit from a mere mortal line pilots perspective.

Let me guess the reply

.....cat C airfields, not tricky
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 10:49
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Let me guess the reply

.....cat C airfields, not tricky

I wasn't going to say that, but...

What Ryanair labels CAT C other operators don't.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 11:56
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im sure sky gods like Chesty will nail it every time in CCF or PPG in a howling mistral, or the circle into Comiso, or Pisa at night, or the VOR 33 at CIA, or many other favourites. These are all significantly more challenging in terms of getting it right consistently than the vast majority of legacy short haul destinations.

It was much more fun hands on flying than what I do these days, and you certainly earned your money a lot more.

Fundamentally, FR pilots are well trained professionals who deserve pay and condiotions commensurate with that status. The return of PB isn't exactly calculated to further that end!
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 14:30
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Joking aside, the point being made is that Ryanair routinely fly to the smaller airports so routinely fly approaches other than radar vectored ILS approaches, even if they don't necessarily fly to all of the hardest cat C airfields. Although I suspect you already knew that.
LNAV/VNAV then - not challenging.

To be honest when I see the disruption caused by some of the trickier, cat C destinations I have to wonder if it's worth all the hassle. Albeit from a mere mortal line pilots perspective.
Quite, but we don't get to choose our destination.

Let me guess the reply

.....cat C airfields, not tricky
All depends. My current airline calls Salzburg Cat C. My last one didn't. It's the same airport now as it was then. So, from who's perspective are we commenting?

Jwscud, nothing to with my position as an aviation deity. If you find a 4 degree approach challenging I suspect you shouldn't be in the position that you're in.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 14:31
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Tis funny coming from a Yorkshire Red. Will Phillip not buy his finest lads red uniforms though?
Ah, is it the employer that makes a destination more of a challenge?
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 16:07
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Just wondered if the Telegraph story is correct in that Ryan are sending "begging" letters to their ex-pilots asking if they would consider returning?

...and do they put stamps on the envelope or expect the pilots to pay to get the message?
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 16:57
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan View Post
LNAV/VNAV then - not challenging.


Quite, but we don't get to choose our destination.


All depends. My current airline calls Salzburg Cat C. My last one didn't. It's the same airport now as it was then. So, from who's perspective are we commenting?

Jwscud, nothing to with my position as an aviation deity. If you find a 4 degree approach challenging I suspect you shouldn't be in the position that you're in.
Yo Chesty !

You come across as an absolute hoot to fly with. Can't beat over confidence and a total belief in one's absolute ability to ace an approach, and show lesser mortals how it's done.
A couple of points :
You can't use VNAV on the westerly runway in CCF. For some reason, they were allowed planning permission to build a medieval tower on the extended runway centreline.
From what I remember of the original Chesty Morgan, (1970's 80's porn star, for all you younger contributors out there), you'll need your personal 4deg approach in order for you to see the runway.

The RYR guys, despite the benefits of VNAV and of RNAV approaches lined up with the runway centreline, have to fly NPA's most working days. Other airlines don't. It can be a challenge, depending on the level of experience of the occupant of the other seat.

Also, Peter Bellew was a good guy. Then he drank the Kool Aid. Eventually he left. Now he's returned. He may well have mellowed in Malaysia. Time will tell.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 17:27
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This is the email I got today from Ryanair...

Dear XXXXXXXX,

I hope you are keeping well since you left Ryanair. My name is YYYYYYY and I am a new Flight Ops Bases Manager in Ryanair. We are currently a team of 4 which is doubling to 8 as part of Ryanair’s drive to significantly transform the way we reward and interact with our pilots, improve their working environment and career development.

You may or may not be are aware of the significant changes that are taking place at Ryanair. We have increased Pilot pay by up to 20% and significantly increased resources in pilot rostering, crew control, bases management and training. We still have much work to do but we have already made significant changes and plan many more for 2018 (including a new annual leave system / process) as we strive to make Ryanair the employer of choice for 737 pilots in Europe. See attached recruitment leaflet with further details.

From 01 Dec former FOPS Director Peter Bellew will be returning to Ryanair as Chief Operations Officer (COO) to lead this transformation.

If you are interested in having a conversation about returning to Ryanair, we would be delighted to hear from you. Please let me know if you are open to a conversation on this, or if you have any specific queries, and I will give you a call.

Thank you for your time.

Kindest Regards,
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 18:34
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It has gone a long way from "RYR cancellations".

And daily RNAV where available is one thing: glad no-one mentioned visuals. That would really create thread drift. Please NO.
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