Ryanair Cancelling flights!
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Are you sure? There are many many challenging airports RYR choose NOT to fly to, but others do. I'm not sure of which particularly challenging airports you refer to.
CCN circle to land. 4’ path. 1800 meter runway??
CCN circle to land. 4’ path. 1800 meter runway??
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Circling isn't challenging. 4 degree slope isn't challenging. 1800 meter runway - flap 40, autobrake 3, detent 2 reverse stops you in less even at MLM.
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Oh Peter is back with a special mission....
What does that do the Chief People Officer Eddie the eagle? 
Get the pop corn out....
The transformation of the relation with the crew will be in line with the change to a nice Ryanair... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNUJ_td7eJc
Peter will lead a significant transformation in the way we reward and interact with our pilots, improve their working environment and career development over the coming years
Get the pop corn out....
The transformation of the relation with the crew will be in line with the change to a nice Ryanair... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNUJ_td7eJc
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Joking aside, the point being made is that Ryanair routinely fly to the smaller airports so routinely fly approaches other than radar vectored ILS approaches, even if they don't necessarily fly to all of the hardest cat C airfields. Although I suspect you already knew that.
To be honest when I see the disruption caused by some of the trickier, cat C destinations I have to wonder if it's worth all the hassle. Albeit from a mere mortal line pilots perspective.
Let me guess the reply
.....cat C airfields, not tricky
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im sure sky gods like Chesty will nail it every time in CCF or PPG in a howling mistral, or the circle into Comiso, or Pisa at night, or the VOR 33 at CIA, or many other favourites. These are all significantly more challenging in terms of getting it right consistently than the vast majority of legacy short haul destinations.
It was much more fun hands on flying than what I do these days, and you certainly earned your money a lot more.
Fundamentally, FR pilots are well trained professionals who deserve pay and condiotions commensurate with that status. The return of PB isn't exactly calculated to further that end!
It was much more fun hands on flying than what I do these days, and you certainly earned your money a lot more.
Fundamentally, FR pilots are well trained professionals who deserve pay and condiotions commensurate with that status. The return of PB isn't exactly calculated to further that end!
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Joking aside, the point being made is that Ryanair routinely fly to the smaller airports so routinely fly approaches other than radar vectored ILS approaches, even if they don't necessarily fly to all of the hardest cat C airfields. Although I suspect you already knew that.
To be honest when I see the disruption caused by some of the trickier, cat C destinations I have to wonder if it's worth all the hassle. Albeit from a mere mortal line pilots perspective.
Let me guess the reply
.....cat C airfields, not tricky
.....cat C airfields, not tricky
Jwscud, nothing to with my position as an aviation deity. If you find a 4 degree approach challenging I suspect you shouldn't be in the position that you're in.
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Just wondered if the Telegraph story is correct in that Ryan are sending "begging" letters to their ex-pilots asking if they would consider returning?
...and do they put stamps on the envelope or expect the pilots to pay to get the message?
...and do they put stamps on the envelope or expect the pilots to pay to get the message?
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LNAV/VNAV then - not challenging.
Quite, but we don't get to choose our destination.
All depends. My current airline calls Salzburg Cat C. My last one didn't. It's the same airport now as it was then. So, from who's perspective are we commenting?
Jwscud, nothing to with my position as an aviation deity. If you find a 4 degree approach challenging I suspect you shouldn't be in the position that you're in.
Quite, but we don't get to choose our destination.
All depends. My current airline calls Salzburg Cat C. My last one didn't. It's the same airport now as it was then. So, from who's perspective are we commenting?
Jwscud, nothing to with my position as an aviation deity. If you find a 4 degree approach challenging I suspect you shouldn't be in the position that you're in.
You come across as an absolute hoot to fly with. Can't beat over confidence and a total belief in one's absolute ability to ace an approach, and show lesser mortals how it's done.
A couple of points :
You can't use VNAV on the westerly runway in CCF. For some reason, they were allowed planning permission to build a medieval tower on the extended runway centreline.
From what I remember of the original Chesty Morgan, (1970's 80's porn star, for all you younger contributors out there), you'll need your personal 4deg approach in order for you to see the runway.
The RYR guys, despite the benefits of VNAV and of RNAV approaches lined up with the runway centreline, have to fly NPA's most working days. Other airlines don't. It can be a challenge, depending on the level of experience of the occupant of the other seat.
Also, Peter Bellew was a good guy. Then he drank the Kool Aid. Eventually he left. Now he's returned. He may well have mellowed in Malaysia. Time will tell.
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This is the email I got today from Ryanair...
Dear XXXXXXXX,
I hope you are keeping well since you left Ryanair. My name is YYYYYYY and I am a new Flight Ops Bases Manager in Ryanair. We are currently a team of 4 which is doubling to 8 as part of Ryanair’s drive to significantly transform the way we reward and interact with our pilots, improve their working environment and career development.
You may or may not be are aware of the significant changes that are taking place at Ryanair. We have increased Pilot pay by up to 20% and significantly increased resources in pilot rostering, crew control, bases management and training. We still have much work to do but we have already made significant changes and plan many more for 2018 (including a new annual leave system / process) as we strive to make Ryanair the employer of choice for 737 pilots in Europe. See attached recruitment leaflet with further details.
From 01 Dec former FOPS Director Peter Bellew will be returning to Ryanair as Chief Operations Officer (COO) to lead this transformation.
If you are interested in having a conversation about returning to Ryanair, we would be delighted to hear from you. Please let me know if you are open to a conversation on this, or if you have any specific queries, and I will give you a call.
Thank you for your time.
Kindest Regards,
I hope you are keeping well since you left Ryanair. My name is YYYYYYY and I am a new Flight Ops Bases Manager in Ryanair. We are currently a team of 4 which is doubling to 8 as part of Ryanair’s drive to significantly transform the way we reward and interact with our pilots, improve their working environment and career development.
You may or may not be are aware of the significant changes that are taking place at Ryanair. We have increased Pilot pay by up to 20% and significantly increased resources in pilot rostering, crew control, bases management and training. We still have much work to do but we have already made significant changes and plan many more for 2018 (including a new annual leave system / process) as we strive to make Ryanair the employer of choice for 737 pilots in Europe. See attached recruitment leaflet with further details.
From 01 Dec former FOPS Director Peter Bellew will be returning to Ryanair as Chief Operations Officer (COO) to lead this transformation.
If you are interested in having a conversation about returning to Ryanair, we would be delighted to hear from you. Please let me know if you are open to a conversation on this, or if you have any specific queries, and I will give you a call.
Thank you for your time.
Kindest Regards,
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It has gone a long way from "RYR cancellations".
And daily RNAV where available is one thing: glad no-one mentioned visuals. That would really create thread drift. Please NO.
And daily RNAV where available is one thing: glad no-one mentioned visuals. That would really create thread drift. Please NO.
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The RYR guys, despite the benefits of VNAV and of RNAV approaches lined up with the runway centreline, have to fly NPA's most working days. Other airlines don't. It can be a challenge, depending on the level of experience of the occupant of the other seat.
Originally Posted by Windshearescape
Hmm how about an RNAV Visual but I don't want the red suits to feel left out as they've never even heard of such a thing. Dont worry VS into Nice works just fine
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Mc Ginley Aviation warning Stansted pilots to accept the offer from Ryanair and if they don’t,what then???????
Curious. If we assume the offers are for the direct employees only, what jurisdiction has McGinley over them? Is there something regarding the contractors that is not being reported? Are McGinley nervous that the whole contractor issue might come under scrutinty as a consequence of this whole affair. If so that would apply to all the agencies.
Curious. If we assume the offers are for the direct employees only, what jurisdiction has McGinley over them? Is there something regarding the contractors that is not being reported? Are McGinley nervous that the whole contractor issue might come under scrutinty as a consequence of this whole affair. If so that would apply to all the agencies.
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McGinley along with Brookfield are protagonists in atypical employment race to the bottom labor schemes. Any “warning” should be ignored.
An opportunity for change was previously missed resulting in defeat by the Supreme Court of Ireland egregious decision. A chance to atone for that mistake currently presents itself.
With the recent ECJ decision on jurisdiction in their favor together with media coverage of unsavory contracts and conditions, any failure to act decisively and collectively will leave the victims to blame and future support pointless.
Victims should not be fooled into accepting union representation with service provider employers (as with Norwegian's pilots). Direct employment and union representation with the airline is required – the real employer.
Of course, there are some who reject the idea of being a victim and will not act. These creatures are usually the first in line demanding to receive the benefits made through the efforts and sacrifice of others.
An opportunity for change was previously missed resulting in defeat by the Supreme Court of Ireland egregious decision. A chance to atone for that mistake currently presents itself.
With the recent ECJ decision on jurisdiction in their favor together with media coverage of unsavory contracts and conditions, any failure to act decisively and collectively will leave the victims to blame and future support pointless.
Victims should not be fooled into accepting union representation with service provider employers (as with Norwegian's pilots). Direct employment and union representation with the airline is required – the real employer.
Of course, there are some who reject the idea of being a victim and will not act. These creatures are usually the first in line demanding to receive the benefits made through the efforts and sacrifice of others.