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Old 6th Oct 2017, 10:35
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Still clinging to “local benchmarking” without recognising many pilots commute to their base and live elsewhere.

Eddie Wilson is the company’s union buster in chief and is the man who took a flight all the way to Copenhagen just to tell the Danish Unions to **** off and fly home again.

Still trying to stick to the busted ERC and divide and conquer model.

Nice try but I hope my former colleagues don’t fall for it and stay strong.
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 10:43
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At least somebody in the media has the measure of O'Leary:

Ryanair: Has Sky King Michael O'Leary really gone down on bended knee? | The Independent
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 11:03
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The last sentence In the article says it all. Let's hope Ryanair pilots will exercise wisdom and not be fooled by promises. Promises are easy to give and easy to renage on. What is required is systemic change. Anything short of that will be fools gold!
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 13:12
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Still clinging to “local benchmarking” without recognising many pilots commute to their base and live elsewhere.

We are told that contractors have a fixed rate depending on which agency rents out your soul; and they have differing rates to each other, but it matters not which base you fly from. Thus it would seem 'bench marking' with local operators would not affect the majority.

Still clinging to “local benchmarking” without recognising many pilots commute to their base and live elsewhere.

Curious: MOL claims the Supreme Court (which country) ruled that the ERC model satisfies 'collective bargaining' guidelines. RYR admit that ERC's negotiate T's & C's for their respective base only: and then only for the very few RYR employees at that base. Thus, if the ERC's are local how can they be collective. Is that 'Irish' or not? Answers please from them who know.
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 14:19
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Ryanair turns on the charm.
https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/art...-s-time-to-run
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So............Ryanair pilots aren't scum anymore but pilots at other airlines are? Love it.

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Old 6th Oct 2017, 15:17
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At least somebody in the media has the measure of O'Leary:
I wouldn't like to be sitting with this unhappy reporter over a pint. What a begrudger.

Does that mean the end of the Ryanair investment case? No. Even if the wage bill increased by one-quarter, it would still report a very impressive 21 percent operating margin: twice what Easyjet Plc managed last year, according to my rough calculation.
Bloomberg, well one has to say he has an intelligent conclusion.
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 18:42
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On the BBC News website (Anonymous Ryanair Pilot speaks):
Ryanair 'run like a communist regime', says pilot

bbc.......news/uk-england-41384789 (or search for headline)
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Ryanair 'run like a communist regime', says pilot - BBC News
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 19:49
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The first head has rolled!

Looks like O'Leary is blaming everyone but himself.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...eave-1.3247296
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 20:19
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I love this, especially the song at the end, and I genuinely can't tell if this is one of TF's impressions or not!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7VYWr2View
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 02:17
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Ryanair letter to pilots shows O’Leary still doesn't get it

Ryanair letter to pilots shows O?Leary still doesn't get it | BALPA
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 04:14
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New command upgrade scheme announced.

Basically it's a 3 yr bond.

Total con.
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 05:33
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I'm wondering who at Ryanair is stupid enough to not realise that people don't want to stay, and introducing bond after bond isn't going to change anything - if anything it'll make people want to leave even more. Just like when they stopped allowing pilots to unfreeze their ATPL during the bi-annual simulator events. They think they can imprison people into staying, rather than enticing them with improved terms.

The exodus will continue, there are too many better options on the table right now.
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Definition of a "Hickey"

Either a love bite or a pimple.

Wonder when the carbuncle will be lanced.........?
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RYR have grounded 25%-ish of its fleet during the winter for the past few years. EZ started this by calculating it was cheaper to stop loss making routes and ground the a/c than to fly them with no demand. RYR seem to claim they will fly 25 fewer a/c so to give their hard working crews their well earned leave. What they omit to say is that these grounded a/c will not need crews, who therefore will not be paid. Contractors, both pilots & cabin will go without work and thus income for the winter months. But they can might still be rostered for unpaid SBY duties at a base that could be away from home at their own costs. Make your own judgements.
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 07:23
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Is it’s actually possible that O’Leary may just have to fall on his sword?

As an Irishman nothing would give me more pleasure.
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Originally Posted by BARKINGMAD
Either a love bite or a pimple.

Wonder when the carbuncle will be lanced.........?

Looks like your fairygodmother heard you

The first big name to get launched ....sorry resign !

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...line-1.3247296
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 09:49
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Do you really pay for your own Aircraft/IR rating renewals at Ryanair? I find this astounding if true.
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Trust Mr O’Leary to add fuel to that inferno with his accusation that some pilots were being “precious about themselves” and “full of their own self-importance”. Not to mention jabs at the amount of hours they have to work.
Most airline management uses the same economic textbook; lower unit cost for labour. (at any cost)

Such thinking has preoccupied business school MBA's for decades.
It is not only airlines where teams of expensive accountants pour through accounts looking for ways to lower unit cost.

O'Leary's secret recipe isn't secret, it is replicated all throughout the airline industry. The same cocktail parties see these modern day romeo's swapping notes on the practices that made O'Leary a poster boy for ADVERSARIAL INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS.


Qantas (in Australia) even went as far as replicating an entire airline to isolate and control the mainline terms and conditions: It is called Jetstar.

They never imagined that their model had one fatal flaw; declining supply.

It is a structural shortage beginning with demographics and ending with an IR structure that at its genesis is a destructive, adversarial and divisive model. Where people are simply units of labour to be derided, outsourced and minimised endlessly.

Time for the mutinous pilots to book the gains they’ve made and pipe down?
If I were in their shoes I would at this point ask myself whether leopards ever really change their spots.
O'Leary has a huge infrastructure of workplace relations, human refuse practitioners who will not willingly go into the night. To them and O'Leary as hammers every problem is a nail and as such they will not fully appreciate that this is not cyclical, it is structural
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