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Old 1st Mar 2019, 07:04
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Originally Posted by giord
Thank You very much for the highly valuable information. Just a last question to fully understand : is there a minimum time this bond is applicable for ? Meaning that should the pilot leave before a certain time he should pay back the 15k ? Thank You very much again.
it s a 3 year reducing bond, thanks
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Old 1st Mar 2019, 08:19
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Iím thinking of applying for DEC position, whatís the average timeframe from applying to starting the OCC course if successful? Iím not available until the end of the year due other commitments so wondering when is best to apply
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Old 1st Mar 2019, 11:54
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delighted to hear you are thinking of joining, it would be within 4 months after passing the assessment
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Old 1st Mar 2019, 17:54
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Originally Posted by Ryanairrecruitment
delighted to hear you are thinking of joining, it would be within 4 months after passing the assessment

thanks for the reply
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Old 23rd Mar 2019, 13:34
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Originally Posted by Ryanairrecruitment
delighted to hear you are thinking of joining, it would be within 4 months after passing the assessment
How long approximately from applying online to the assessment?

Can you share some info on the DEC assessment process?

Thanks in advance
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 08:12
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Base selection

I am looking at spending on an MCC in order to apply for Ryanair as a cadet first officer and I wonder if any of you chaps could help me with a couple of queries:

1. At what point do you find out your allocated base?

2. What are the chances of getting a UK base (strong personal reasons)?

3. Are base transfers easy or hard?

Thank you in advance,

RL

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Old 10th Apr 2019, 09:50
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If You insist on starting in RYR the best is to take a MCC in CAE AMS, excellent and practically 1/2 a RYR typerating.
Now.
1.The base is assigned AFTER line training complete for a Cadet ALWAYS!
You will not get UK base for personnel reasons! There is umpteen ahead of you. Particularly now as RYR is stockpiling FOs .

2. UK base is popular among Brits , Others avoid it as the plague or simply quit if transferred there,BUT it will depend on RYRs expansion or most likely shrinking the bases if this thing called BREXIT goes south! But lest say a 15% chance!!

3. It is generally hard to get a specific base, and then it may close. Ask EIN BRE RYG etc crew!!
So to that question I can say it is a lengthy project , about as long as a string: Long!
Good luck Son.
You will need it if going down that path.
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 10:13
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and here he is, BluSdUp and his positive comments about FR. You really have nothing better to be doing than talking absolute garbage about FR. They wouldn't be the first airline to open/close bases hence your comments are really irrelevant.

You would think that cadets would be enthusiastic to go anywhere these days however, I am probably wrong.

rogue leader if you are looking to join FR have a look at Sky4U in Berlin for your MCC
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 10:19
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Cpt B - Thank you for the information and MCC recommendation. As I thought it seems it will be impossible to know until I'm a little down the line on basing.

aviationfanatic - Thanks for your input and MCC recommendation. I'm enthusiastic about the job, but my wife is a non-EU citizen and with the current Brexit situation it is unclear if she could accompany me, how long for, and what her rights might look like.

Not bashing RYR's policies, just looking to make an informed decision.

RL

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Old 10th Apr 2019, 10:22
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Ahhhh Did I hurt your feelings!
The truth My Dear is a tough thing.
RYR is for some pilots OK.
For others, not so much.
With regards to base a bit of a lottery.
By the way CAE AMS is the best MCC! Fact!
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 10:38
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Welcome to the Club. My better half is Canadien.
Now ,Brexit would be sorted soon we hope. Then find out about You/Her rights.
Just an observation considering the 737MAX may never fly again( not likely BUT)
For sure Airbus will be in demand.
I would tend to lean towards A320 now if I was starting out, a fantastic aircraft BTW.
Not sure the UK demand mind you.
ANYWAY
Lets say EU base is not a problem for UK residents , the question is are You ready for worst case.Kaunas for 3 years?
Keep the Blue Side Up
Always
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 11:40
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Originally Posted by rogue leader
Cpt B - Thank you for the information and MCC recommendation. As I thought it seems it will be impossible to know until I'm a little down the line on basing.

aviationfanatic - Thanks for your input and MCC recommendation. I'm enthusiastic about the job, but my wife is a non-EU citizen and with the current Brexit situation it is unclear if she could accompany me, how long for, and what her rights might look like.

Not bashing RYR's policies, just looking to make an informed decision.

RL
I second aviation fanatics MCC recommendation, I did an MCC/JOC at cockpit4u / sky4u in Berlin for the reason that it was less than a quarter of the price of all the UK 737 MCCs. I only have positive words for them.

I started out at Ryanair and stayed for 4 years, like yourself I have a non EU spouse and did actually get a UK base as my first permanent base (even though I wanted to leave the UK at the time).

As you know, Ryanair wonít give you a uk base for Ďpersonal reasonsí but if you have it as a preference you may have a reasonable chance, especially somewhere like STN.

If Brexit gets extended today you will still have the right to bring your wife anywhere in EU with you. If not then you could also consider Dublin, I spent two years there and loved it - great city and a great base. Ireland and the UK will still retain the CTA if and when Brexit happens.

If you have any questions feel free to send a PM
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 13:56
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Originally Posted by BluSdUp
AF
Ahhhh Did I hurt your feelings!
The truth My Dear is a tough thing.
RYR is for some pilots OK.
For others, not so much.
With regards to base a bit of a lottery.
By the way CAE AMS is the best MCC! Fact!
What truth are you talking about? It takes a lot more than this to hurt my feelings however, I can't stand people talking garbage just for the sake of it!
You are extremely misinformed....
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Old 19th Apr 2019, 22:37
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Originally Posted by BluSdUp
Welcome to the Club. My better half is Canadien.
Now ,Brexit would be sorted soon we hope. Then find out about You/Her rights.
Just an observation considering the 737MAX may never fly again( not likely BUT)
For sure Airbus will be in demand.
I would tend to lean towards A320 now if I was starting out, a fantastic aircraft BTW.
Not sure the UK demand mind you.
ANYWAY
Lets say EU base is not a problem for UK residents , the question is are You ready for worst case.Kaunas for 3 years?
Keep the Blue Side Up
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Cpt B
Very important note! A320 for MCC is surely fine.
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 07:54
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Salary

How much is the salary at ryanair before tax?
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 17:58
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I have been told is about 7500 eur net for Captains and about 4500 eur net for FOs in Spain
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 20:07
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser
Give it a rest bluey - I believe you don't even work there now, and I don't agree with your CAE advert either.

Fact is, for someone with zero experience, Ryanair has become quite a good place to join, because promotion, (and thus, pay) and seniority rockets in very few years, almost unparalleled anywhere in the world. What's more, I think the chance of getting the UK is very good, with much better satisfaction rates of people getting the base they want - meanwhile, GB is rapidly going down the toilet under the mob rule of a bunch of monosyllabic xenophobes (brexiteers), tax is high and public services are appalling - and RYR UK employee net pay is falling way behind other EU RYR bases (especially compared the local EU contracts, and especially when converted £ to $ or Ä terms), UK bases have gone from the most desired choice to one of the least desired - it even takes the sting out of contracting, with your Ä invoices feeling much better against the pound. If you don't get the UK at the outset, it wouldn't take long at all.

Good luck.
Iím glad you havenít stereotyped ď leave ď voters and clearly keep your liberal mind open to conflicting opinions . Oh....
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 04:06
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The crew

Question Current FR pilots : If every day in Ryanair is based on 4 sectors, what is the average duty period from check in to chocks on?

Is it always 4 sectors? How many on average 2 sector
days in a typical monthly roster?

Are FTL regs the basis for rostered duty periods ?

Thanks!
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 09:27
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Depends on the base - STN/DUB got more 4 sectors than TFS etc (of course). Also my (central european) base has a lot more 2 sector days than 4 sectors...
And last month I flew ~70h, with a duty time of ~120h.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 00:03
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Originally Posted by flyfan
Depends on the base - STN/DUB got more 4 sectors than TFS etc (of course). Also my (central european) base has a lot more 2 sector days than 4 sectors...
And last month I flew ~70h, with a duty time of ~120h.
But to be honest this is not standard in an average FR base. My base hits regulary over 100 h block/month AND they still call you to fly on your off days.

Mainland base as well and we nearly JUST do 4 sector days. And it is not 1 hour sectors, daily BVA flights for us giving us already on that around 2:10 - 2:30 block each side. Plus 2 shorter sectors before.



Bigger bases have a bit less flying BUT then the very often pull you out of base which is something that I really hate.

To end up with only 2 sectors you need to be a.) lucky b.) there was no other possibility to give you sector 3 and 4(e.g. all sectors operated by other crews on other airframes which brings us back to a.) ) or c.) you are at a base that does a lot of medium haul sectors(e.g. going down to Teneriffe or Tel Aviv).

Duty period - do the math by yourself. Block hours normally at LEAST around 8. Turn around 25 mins(sometimes, like FCO 30 mins). Do the 100h Block deal a couple of months in a row(which is quiet normal in smaller bases short of pilots) and you are worn out. Money is ok(of course) considering the hours we do. Compared to any other proper airline which is doing MUCH less flying the money earned is suddenly not so much anymore. FR is aiming to put you as close to 900 h as they can.
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