Joining Ryanair

[tomuchwork]

Originally Posted by spottyemm

Samba I’m going to guess that you have never worked for a Uk based charter airline? Random roster all summer with very few weekend days off, night flights, short notice roster changes etc etc.This is commonplace in the UK.

My experience exactly mirrors that of Pumal1w. I guess my username reveals my former employer but I know that other UK charter operators have similar rostering issues.

There are are many things to moan about in RYR but in my experience the fixed roster is definitely not one of them.

Obviously the charter airline summer carnage is mainly a Northern European phenomenon and it may well be that our colleagues in Southern Europe have superior rostering practices. I should also point out that I have been extremely fortunate not to have to commute which obviously results on a more pleasant work/life balance.

Last block of your comment - ermmm, hell no. Southern Europe is the same crap as northern Europe if not even worse. How would you come to this conclusion? The south does a s**tload of flights up north, combined with internal routes. So no, no beer/vine while laying on my pool doing nothing. Only thing that is true as well for the south - we have as well 5/4. Nothing else. You mistake bases doing only mid range flights(and for this reason ending up with only 2 sectors/day) with the GENERAL situation in all southern bases.

But I agree so far that 5/4 is one of the few good things(and I need 2 of this 4 off days just to recover from my "pleasant" 5 days on). And being more or less every day with my family(which is only true for those of us who managed to get the base of their choice. On Commuting this job is a nightmare). Nothing more.

[samca]

Originally Posted by tomuchwork

Last block of your comment - ermmm, hell no. Southern Europe is the same crap as northern Europe if not even worse. How would you come to this conclusion? The south does a s**tload of flights up north, combined with internal routes. So no, no beer/vine while laying on my pool doing nothing. Only thing that is true as well for the south - we have as well 5/4. Nothing else. You mistake bases doing only mid range flights(and for this reason ending up with only 2 sectors/day) with the GENERAL situation in all southern bases.

But I agree so far that 5/4 is one of the few good things(and I need 2 of this 4 off days just to recover from my "pleasant" 5 days on). And being more or less every day with my family(which is only true for those of us who managed to get the base of their choice. On Commuting this job is a nightmare). Nothing more.

completely agree with you in everything... +1

[clvf88]

Regarding the 'fixed' 5/4 - are they still rostering sims / deadheading for 'out of base' on days off?

Also, are rosters still only confirmed with one weeks notice?

[CharlieTangoCharlie]

For me at least, both of those have been rostered within the 5 day block.

[plikee]

Originally Posted by clvf88

Regarding the 'fixed' 5/4 - are they still rostering sims / deadheading for 'out of base' on days off?

Also, are rosters still only confirmed with one weeks notice?

It depends a lot if they are short on that base or not. 1 day off might be for DH.

What do you mean by confirmed? Although the active week is confirmed, they still can make changes! So I wouldn't really count on that.

[Newcomer2]

Originally Posted by plikee

It depends a lot if they are short on that base or not. 1 day off might be for DH.

What do you mean by confirmed? Although the active week is confirmed, they still can make changes! So I wouldn't really count on that.

Hummmm... DH on day off? Then it's not a day off! Because on a day off I am free to do whatever I want and to choose wherever I go. Tell me you get overtime pay for that (day off rate)?

[plikee]

Originally Posted by Newcomer2

Tell me you get overtime pay for that (day off rate)?

Not even on your wettest dreams. Remember they are low cost carrier, not a legacy.

[clvf88]

Originally Posted by plikee

It depends a lot if they are short on that base or not. 1 day off might be for DH.

What do you mean by confirmed? Although the active week is confirmed, they still can make changes! So I wouldn't really count on that.

So its 'fixed' 5/4, unless they need you to deadhead and then its not. Only the active week is confirmed so can you potentially lose your day off with a weeks notice then? I was hoping things might have got better with the union recognition.

[plikee]

Yep, again the DH might happen in your 5 working days and lately that has been the case but if you out of base from a place with not so good connections then you might only be able to DH back on you day 1 off. You won't lose your days off for a flying duty including the ones out of the active week. If they roster you for that, just ask them politely to remove it and they will, don't have any choice really. The only time you only have 3 days off and work 6 days is during your simulator week, twice a year.

[clvf88]

Originally Posted by plikee

Yep, again the DH might happen in your 5 working days and lately that has been the case but if you out of base from a place with not so good connections then you might only be able to DH back on you day 1 off. You won't lose your days off for a flying duty including the ones out of the active week. If they roster you for that, just ask them politely to remove it and they will, don't have any choice really. The only time you only have 3 days off and work 6 days is during your simulator week, twice a year.

Thanks for the info, sir.

[Say Mach Number]

A couple of facts that we are probably all familiar with but just in case;

In FR;

1. DH on days off shouldn't happen
2. Days off are days off!
3. 5/4 is inifinitum except 6/3 twice a year.
4. Pilots will be pilots..........
5. Rostering depts will be rostering depts and chance their arm.......

When I come across a pilot that's positioned on a day off or been rostered for something odd outside the norm 5/4, I ask did you complain/point it out and get it changed?

Pilots response;

1. Didn't want to rock the boat got my command coming up.
2. Didn't want to rock the boat hoping to my transfer to Malaga/Alicante/Tenerife etc
3. Didn't want to rock the boat at all.
4. Suited me - WHAT??
5. If I got it changed they might move my sim and I want it out of the way...
6. Im new so didn't want to rock the boat.

You get the idea. So we don't do ourselves any favours and rostering depts know how to play the game.

Personally anything odd or weird thats appeared on my roster has always been changed back to how it should be. But you have to ask!

[breakdip]

Does FR still holds bases in Scandinavia? If yes, where and are those direct possibilities after TR training? Considering the possibility to relocate back to the North.

[UAV689]

Originally Posted by breakdip

Does FR still holds bases in Scandinavia? If yes, where and are those direct possibilities after TR training? Considering the possibility to relocate back to the North.

scandi bases are deadman shoes, expect a 10yr wait as captain I would say unless there is some expansion there

[RogueOne]

There was quite a bit of experienced NTR FO recruitment about 6/7 months ago. Any word if that might be happening again soon?

[tomuchwork]

Originally Posted by plikee

Yep, again the DH might happen in your 5 working days and lately that has been the case but if you out of base from a place with not so good connections then you might only be able to DH back on you day 1 off. You won't lose your days off for a flying duty including the ones out of the active week. If they roster you for that, just ask them politely to remove it and they will, don't have any choice really. The only time you only have 3 days off and work 6 days is during your simulator week, twice a year.

Fully agree. What always nerves me that you need to push them to follow the "rules". They know it, so do not put it in my roster. I simply do not want to deal with the "mothership" to be honest. Same goes with that 6/3. Like I do the sim for fun and they do not need me current back on the line. As a "thank you"(for paying your own hotel during sim check, as well on RYR contract) you may work 6 days and have only 3 off.

Another fantastic trend I discovered(at least it happened to me a few times) - they do not reach you on your off days(because they want you to fly) and I never answer company calls IN my off days sometimes they just decide to put a WOFF(working day off) in my roster. If I don't like it I have to start to deal with them. Again - I do not like to deal with people that do not give a s*** about what I need. Might it be operational(asking for a re-route that for sure would work but they prefer the cheaper route with a slot delay or a CI100 FPL and at best they decide to ignore that annoying stupid captain that simply should fly his tiny plane and should not bother dealing with the mothership) or any other requests that are out of the CLA.


All a big game here and I am tired of playing it.

[Ryanairrecruitment]

Originally Posted by Thepirate

Hey ryanairrecruitment,

Has lauda motion any plans to open more bases?

whens it expected ryanair will open recruitment for DEC again and is this dependent on 737 max deliveries?

excellent idea communicating on this website thank you, one thing that can’t be said about ryanair is they pretend to be something they are not. Just keep the camel out of it

Hi Guys and Girls jumping into this thread. I can see a lot of different info being banded about but just to update everyone on recruitment.

1 - Cadets - Hiring 650+ over the next 12 months
2 - Non - Type Rated FO's - No hiring indefinitely
3 - Non - Type Rated Captains - No hiring indefinitely
4 - Rated FOs - some hiring
5 - Rated Captains - will be reviewed early 2020

Our sister airline, Lauda Motion are currently recruiting rated and non-type rated captains for Vienna and Palma base for 2020 and a new base TBC - email [email protected] with ''Pilot Application'' in the subject bar to be considered.

Thanks

[Stjuk]

Lauda motion

Hi Ryanairrecruitment

Do you have T&C’s for Non-rated Captains in PMI?

Thanks

[Ryanairrecruitment]

Originally Posted by Stjuk

Hi Ryanairrecruitment

Do you have T&C’s for Non-rated Captains in PMI?

Thanks

if you email Lauda they will be more than happy to share info with you. Thanks

[juris]

Hi Ryanairrecruitment,

Do you have any info about possible future NTR FO (experienced) recruitment for LAUDA? Thanks

[breakdip]

Originally Posted by Ryanairrecruitment

Hi Guys and Girls jumping into this thread. I can see a lot of different info being banded about but just to update everyone on recruitment.

1 - Cadets - Hiring 650+ over the next 12 months
2 - Non - Type Rated FO's - No hiring indefinitely

Need a little clarification from RYR. Will you get paid after 8 weeks (typerating) or after 8 weeks + 3-4 months (linetraining)?