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Old 26th Nov 2014, 09:08
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Does anyone know any info about any rumours I've heard that reapplying to BA waiting time might go down from 12 to 6 months? Website seems to indicate that you can reapply after 6 months but 12 months if you've done any of the assessments..
Lots of people I know very keen to be reconsidered having not passed aptitude/interview/sims...
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 09:43
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It seems to be true. Received PFO yesterday with the 6 months period mentioned...
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 13:35
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Been told these were issued in error. New letters confirming 12 month wait to be sent out.
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 14:52
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Does anyone remember for the Flight director test, does it require the horizontal bar (the pitch bar) to be brought back to the centre using the reverse sense? Ie if the bar goes up, normally you'd pitch up to the FD bar, but in this test does it want you to pitch down?
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 14:56
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It's the opposite sense to the F/D! When's day one for you VJW?
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 17:11
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How long has it been taking people to hear back after day 2? I have a feeling it won't be good news for me, but would be nice to be put out of my misery!
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 17:57
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Anyone else still waiting to hear back? I applied on day one of the non-type rated campaign. No PFO so far. I've been checking the careers site, my email and my junk folder every day! 3,000TT, most on jets, not typed on a Boeing or Airbus though.
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 20:34
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Guys, sorry to relay the news but I know of bus rated people applying over the last several weeks getting invites for just a week later. What this indicates despite the recruitment drive for the 777 and 747 I don't know...
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 20:49
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I'm 737 rated, applied on Nov 5th, invited to test email on Nov 10th..
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 21:05
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From what I'm led to believe, on each stage, if it's a definite 'yes', it takes about 4/5 days, same for a definite 'no', if you're borderline there is a further papersifting process, which can take longer. The guys and girls are, I hear, rather swamped with applications at the moment so I guess this may be taking the process a little longer to sort. Don't lose hope just yet.
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 23:27
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BA Direct Entry Pilot.

Flying Wild; it took a day for them to get back to me with some good news after day 2. Best of luck
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 16:30
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Hi superpilot

I'm not sure where your train of thought is with the info? Just you say sorry to relay the news.
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 16:34
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The results of Crystal were released today.

It shows 310 new pilot positions for 2015. Included in this are 30 DEP positions on the 787 and 80 on the 747. These LH positions will be in the first half of 2015.
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 16:42
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I was thinking that some non-bus candidates may be leading themselves into thinking that because BA have opened applications to non-bus rated, they would be in line for an invite pretty soon.

I know it's not that clear cut but this is mostly due to having learned and also having a PPRuNe member from a major Boeing operator tell me that in the region of 20 non-bus rated individuals from his outfit have applied but not had any kind of response.

Yet, I know of bus rated people applying in the last 2-3 weeks who are getting invites just a week later. Bus people who applied after many non-bus people that is.

Hope that makes sense.
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 22:46
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It's common sense that Bus rated candidates would be called ahead of non rated guys, even if they have applied at a later date than the non type rated candidates. However, claiming to relay bad news, when you are not employed by BA and you're purely speculating strikes me as being a little unnecessary.

As a non type rated applicant I am more than aware that I am bottom of the pile when it comes to getting a call. However, PFOs have been coming to some and not others, so I was merely trying to ascertain whether any non rated applicants had been invited to attend day one so far.

Best of luck to everyone still in the process. I'd be delighted to get a call, but there is some very capable competition out there, many much more qualified than I.
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 23:11
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It's common sense that Bus rated candidates would be called ahead of non rated guys
Despite the news that 50% of recruitment is now for Boeing fleets?

Just saying what I'm seeing/hearing. Take my point of view as you like old bean! Best of luck.
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Old 28th Nov 2014, 03:45
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Why so many openings on the Dreamliner and the Whale? I guess I thought eligible people on the Bus or 737-400 might be interested in a change....
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Old 28th Nov 2014, 08:42
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Basically it's down to training capacity.

There are plenty within BA who want to move short haul to long haul but each such a move generates two training courses....one for the guy/ girl doing the move from the bus/737 to the Long haul type, and then another for the new entrant to replace him/ her on the short haul type.

Recruiting externally means just one course (for the new entrant). As a result internal transfers have effectively been capped and there is DEP recruitment for some of the vacancies onto the 787 and the 744.

Of course this policy understandably isn't going down well in some quarters but it is covered by existing agreements with the union and it has happened before.

I think the fact BA is planning on outsourcing some of the training to CTC (including some internal transfers) shows how stretched BA's training system is going to be next year.

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Old 28th Nov 2014, 11:25
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As wiggy said training capacity is the issue. Around 1000 conversion courses were initially planned! All at a time that Sims are being transferred out of brainbank and into TBA, with an extra requirement for trainers etc etc. The number of courses had to be reduced to make it manageable. The only fleet to see a freeze waiver is the 737 as it is being retired in any case. The 320 fleet and others were not so fortunate.
All DEP LH to the first half of the year to make the 320 trg programme manageable with a number of 78s arriving in quick succession in the later half of next year.
FPP courses delayed due to extra training footprint. So if 777/787/744/320 rated, the outlook is good for a potential shorter wait in the 'submitted' category. A bit of an exceptional year it would seem.
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Old 1st Dec 2014, 15:26
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Are there any technical questions in the interview? Type rated
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