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From: On the side of the pitch!
From what I'm led to believe, on each stage, if it's a definite 'yes', it takes about 4/5 days, same for a definite 'no', if you're borderline there is a further papersifting process, which can take longer. The guys and girls are, I hear, rather swamped with applications at the moment so I guess this may be taking the process a little longer to sort. Don't lose hope just yet.
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From: UK
The results of Crystal were released today.
It shows 310 new pilot positions for 2015. Included in this are 30 DEP positions on the 787 and 80 on the 747. These LH positions will be in the first half of 2015.
It shows 310 new pilot positions for 2015. Included in this are 30 DEP positions on the 787 and 80 on the 747. These LH positions will be in the first half of 2015.
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From: England
I was thinking that some non-bus candidates may be leading themselves into thinking that because BA have opened applications to non-bus rated, they would be in line for an invite pretty soon.
I know it's not that clear cut but this is mostly due to having learned and also having a pprune member from a major Boeing operator tell me that in the region of 20 non-bus rated individuals from his outfit have applied but not had any kind of response.
Yet, I know of bus rated people applying in the last 2-3 weeks who are getting invites just a week later. Bus people who applied after many non-bus people that is.
Hope that makes sense.
I know it's not that clear cut but this is mostly due to having learned and also having a pprune member from a major Boeing operator tell me that in the region of 20 non-bus rated individuals from his outfit have applied but not had any kind of response.
Yet, I know of bus rated people applying in the last 2-3 weeks who are getting invites just a week later. Bus people who applied after many non-bus people that is.
Hope that makes sense.
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From: FL370
It's common sense that Bus rated candidates would be called ahead of non rated guys, even if they have applied at a later date than the non type rated candidates. However, claiming to relay bad news, when you are not employed by BA and you're purely speculating strikes me as being a little unnecessary.
As a non type rated applicant I am more than aware that I am bottom of the pile when it comes to getting a call. However, PFOs have been coming to some and not others, so I was merely trying to ascertain whether any non rated applicants had been invited to attend day one so far.
Best of luck to everyone still in the process. I'd be delighted to get a call, but there is some very capable competition out there, many much more qualified than I.
As a non type rated applicant I am more than aware that I am bottom of the pile when it comes to getting a call. However, PFOs have been coming to some and not others, so I was merely trying to ascertain whether any non rated applicants had been invited to attend day one so far.
Best of luck to everyone still in the process. I'd be delighted to get a call, but there is some very capable competition out there, many much more qualified than I.
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It's common sense that Bus rated candidates would be called ahead of non rated guys
Just saying what I'm seeing/hearing. Take my point of view as you like old bean! Best of luck.
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From: The Winchester
Basically it's down to training capacity.
There are plenty within BA who want to move short haul to long haul but each such a move generates two training courses....one for the guy/ girl doing the move from the bus/737 to the Long haul type, and then another for the new entrant to replace him/ her on the short haul type.
Recruiting externally means just one course (for the new entrant). As a result internal transfers have effectively been capped and there is DEP recruitment for some of the vacancies onto the 787 and the 744.
Of course this policy understandably isn't going down well in some quarters but it is covered by existing agreements with the union and it has happened before.
I think the fact BA is planning on outsourcing some of the training to CTC (including some internal transfers) shows how stretched BA's training system is going to be next year.
There are plenty within BA who want to move short haul to long haul but each such a move generates two training courses....one for the guy/ girl doing the move from the bus/737 to the Long haul type, and then another for the new entrant to replace him/ her on the short haul type.
Recruiting externally means just one course (for the new entrant). As a result internal transfers have effectively been capped and there is DEP recruitment for some of the vacancies onto the 787 and the 744.
Of course this policy understandably isn't going down well in some quarters but it is covered by existing agreements with the union and it has happened before.
I think the fact BA is planning on outsourcing some of the training to CTC (including some internal transfers) shows how stretched BA's training system is going to be next year.
Last edited by wiggy; 28th November 2014 at 07:52.
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From: The outer reaches
As wiggy said training capacity is the issue. Around 1000 conversion courses were initially planned! All at a time that Sims are being transferred out of brainbank and into TBA, with an extra requirement for trainers etc etc. The number of courses had to be reduced to make it manageable. The only fleet to see a freeze waiver is the 737 as it is being retired in any case. The 320 fleet and others were not so fortunate.
All DEP LH to the first half of the year to make the 320 trg programme manageable with a number of 78s arriving in quick succession in the later half of next year.
FPP courses delayed due to extra training footprint. So if 777/787/744/320 rated, the outlook is good for a potential shorter wait in the 'submitted' category. A bit of an exceptional year it would seem.
All DEP LH to the first half of the year to make the 320 trg programme manageable with a number of 78s arriving in quick succession in the later half of next year.
FPP courses delayed due to extra training footprint. So if 777/787/744/320 rated, the outlook is good for a potential shorter wait in the 'submitted' category. A bit of an exceptional year it would seem.
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From: England
The bus stop is at the far southern end of the terminal, out side the arrivals level. You can't miss it, there will be loads of BA crew standing around in the cold staring at their mobile phones.
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