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Old 21st Mar 2018, 13:39
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Cycles gladiator: I would not worry about BA this happens everyday with pilots, cabin crew, managers etc. Most times I call to say I am in traffic they can tell me what the cause is and what the delays are likely to be. I would be very proactive in getting back into the recruitment system and if you have numbers pick up the phone and speak to someone then follow it up with an email etc. The last thing you want to do is fall into a dark hole within the computer booking system. Anyone coming down the M4 today at about 7am got stuffed too.
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 18:55
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Yes ignore by all means. Frankly I canít believe you wouldnít book a hotel on th bath road fr every stage. For gods sake thereís only a few stages and itís £60 a night to eliminate the risk of the M25.
I would say itís unlikely youíll get another shot.
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 19:00
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I know someone whose car broke down on the way to the interview who is now a long haul captain.

My sim partner was 20 minutes late arriving due to bad traffic on the M25, he got in too.

Disregard the rubbish written above, we've all been there. Don't worry!
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 21:35
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Thanks for all your advice. The wheels are now in motion.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 01:25
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Originally Posted by 3Greens View Post
Yes ignore by all means. Frankly I canít believe you wouldnít book a hotel on th bath road fr every stage. For gods sake thereís only a few stages and itís £60 a night to eliminate the risk of the M25.
I would say itís unlikely youíll get another shot.
On that basis, you'll be in a hotel before every duty I presume? Unless your crystal ball advises you in advance of every single pile up on the M25.

The BA assessment takes enough out of you without adding unnecessary financial cost as well. Travel, parking, practice sims, (hotels) - it all adds up. And that's assuming you do it only once.

CG - hope you get it rearranged and good luck with it.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 01:39
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I wouldn't recommend paying for a practice sim either. It isn't necessary to get the job offer.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 01:55
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You might not have done one yourself, but I imagine those who did (and got in) don't regret it.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 02:24
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I suppose, but it isn't necessary to succeed is all I'm saying - I'm just supporting your comment "The BA assessment takes enough out of you without adding unnecessary financial cost as well."..
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 06:20
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Itís a funny old profession when people are happy to pay £100k+ for their training, £1k on a Bose headset etc and yet donít want to spend £60 for a hotel room when they have an assessment with the national carrier.

Aside from anything else, the delayed assessment might cost you 50-100 places on the seniority list, which might make all the difference to your lifestyle and cost you 6 months Captainís salary down the line. Each to their own I suppose

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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 08:15
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Originally Posted by FACoff View Post
On that basis, you'll be in a hotel before every duty I presume? Unless your crystal ball advises you in advance of every single pile up on the M25.

The BA assessment takes enough out of you without adding unnecessary financial cost as well. Travel, parking, practice sims, (hotels) - it all adds up. And that's assuming you do it only once.

CG - hope you get it rearranged and good luck with it.
For duties starting prior to a 10am, yes I do actually. I live 100miles away and know what the UK motorway system can be like. Each to their own, but if you are going for a job interview for pilot with BA, I simply cannot believe you wouldnít factor in such details like making sure you get there on time, and without being subjected to unnecessary stress.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 10:02
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Why don't you live in Hounslow?
Iím sure thereís an answer to that..
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 10:05
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3 greens

You wonít be living 100 miles away for very long if the rumours are true about the CAA puting a stop to any commute that is not 90 mins or less on AA route finder

Rumour is they are in BA now looking at this ?
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 10:37
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Originally Posted by Nil further View Post
3 greens

You wonít be living 100 miles away for very long if the rumours are true about the CAA puting a stop to any commute that is not 90 mins or less on AA route finder

Rumour is they are in BA now looking at this ?
They are not going to stop people living more than 100 miles from LHR.....

For those not in the loop the fact is there is a current audit of ďflying commutersĒ. In the run up to that audit management described what they and the CAA regard as sensible commutes, (both flying and drive) and from what they describe it will certainly be possible to live more than 100 miles away and fly in or drive in provided you make arrangements to ensure you are rested at report.

That generally seems to be not flying in overnight and as for a driver.. well they probably would throw the book at somebody if they found out they left home at e.g 2 AM to drive in for an early report......

At the end of the day no matter thereís plenty of accommodation around LHR for pre-flight (or pre-interview) rest. Nobody is going to have to live in the Home Counties or Greater London.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 11:36
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Several hotels around LHR offer discounted aircrew rates. All subject to availability, but work on around £40 per night for the likes of the Ibis & Premier Inn. Privately owned B&Bs can be considerably cheaper.

I have found, coming from the other end of the country, that commuting costs (around 4 trips per month and the odd night in a hotel) are no more than what I used to spend on fuel, driving round the M25 five times a week.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 11:57
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Wot SXTY said...

Some of the perimeter hotels offer crew rates, that may or may not beat the public rate, so caveat emptor, and there are a fair number of crew only B&Bs with bus/walking distance. Somewhere between £25 and £60ish a night would be a fair guess.

The impact in days off is a bit trickier, though not so bad if you are part time and/or long haul.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 13:07
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Imagine if they actually enforced a 90min rule....BA would be cancelling an awful lot of flights for the foreseeable.

Which would cost the company an awful lot of money, which is why the whole audit process is simply to stop the piss taking commuting habits of a minority of crew, no more no less. The CAA will never impose something that severely damages the finances of one of its biggest cash cows. If it does, Iím buying shares in the Premier Inn group.

In other news, great to see some new DEP folks appearing on the seniority list of the long haul fleets - the chap at the bottom of my status list can finally give his shoulders a rest!
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 16:09
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Originally Posted by Windshearescape View Post
Why do you live 100 miles away? Not very committed to your coveted BA pilot job is it. Why don't you live in Hounslow?
Not that the tone of your post deserves a reply, but BA closed my original base 20 years ago.
If you want the job that badly then to my mind you need to assume the m25 could be snarled up. If you have a different attitude to risk then fair enough.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 20:57
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Originally Posted by Basil View Post
Recollect, long time ago, a guy sleeping in a VW camper at GLA.
Top floor of the LHR car park was my second home for a few years.
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 00:12
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Not that the tone of your post deserves a reply, but BA closed my original base 20 years ago.
And offered you a generous financial package to relocate, I presume?

The rumour is that BA are ‘after’ a few serial offenders, who think it perfectly acceptable to pax 8-12 hours overnight. (Potentially in economy) Then expect to operate after a little time in the CRC!

They then have a habit of sleeping through much of their operating sector!

From what I’ve heard. BA have a point!
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 01:29
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Top floor of the LHR car park was my second home for a few years.
I wondered who that was!
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