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Non-TR DEC and FO Recruitment Jet2

Old 10th Jul 2013, 15:12
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Spider Man. You do realise when you're sitting at home all winter doing no work at all you're still getting paid a few grand a month.
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Old 10th Jul 2013, 19:13
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I believe there will be a mix of contracts on offer - 70%/part time contracts may actually appeal to some people. I also believe that COMPASS testing has been canned (no guarantees though).

My recommendation (for what it's worth) is that if you're after a UK based, short haul jet job in an expanding and profitable company that pays you a decent salary every month on time then apply. There is no charge to apply and you can walk away from the selection process at any time you find something you don't like/disagree with.
There are a few folk on here that have a perma-moan about Jet2 - that's fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion. All I would say is that if you're looking to make a career move/change then apply.


If however your time is too valuable, your skills too great and your minimum acceptable income too high then I'd suggest you get back in touch with BA and take them up on that offer of DE Chief Pilot they keep bothering you with.
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Old 10th Jul 2013, 21:42
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I would also suspect that some of us here are in fact ex-Jet2, and could offer some valuable advice and a different perspective on the airline.

IMHO Jet2 is no career airline. Good enough as a stepping stone to something else, or indeed, finishing off your career.
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Old 10th Jul 2013, 21:50
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Well said StopStart and if BA don't get back to you with that DE CP job, well you can always join Monarch (rumoured large NG order pending) or Norwegian who will pay you a 100% year round and rather more than what is on offer from Yorkshire favourite airline and which ever way you cut it your still on 70% of the going rate for the job.

I'm told that Morrison's in Yeadon & Leeds city council are more than happy to accept that you pay only 70% of your bill at the check out, ditto your rates and mortgage with Bradford & Bingley

There is a vouch code on your rates bill, just enter (Jet2 Friendly low wage airline)

All joking aside, the are a good company and a friendly bunch, 99% of the pilot management very strongly disagree with this 70% lark, because its not really a seasonal contract i.e. you are employed year round but at 70% of some other pilots and you can't clear off and work somewhere else over the winter and continue to receive your 70%.

The life span of this scheme will be seriously tested in 2014, my understanding is that if you apply and are successful and accept a position starting next spring then your contract will have a recoverable penalty running at around 7k if you sign but fail to show up next year, needless to say it doesn't work the other way round if their business plan changes.

The big plus is that you get to work/live in EDI/GLA BPL/MAN LBA NCL and for many that will swing it
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Old 10th Jul 2013, 22:13
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For those that have applied, any idea when we might hear something? Again, from the hold pool last time, does that carry any credit from a compass pass?
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 00:37
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I would also suspect that some of us here are in fact ex-Jet2, and could offer some valuable advice and a different perspective on the airline.

IMHO Jet2 is no career airline. Good enough as a stepping stone to something else, or indeed, finishing off your career.
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It's great that after all these years you continue to show an interest in your ex-employer. I hope that your current paymaster will engender the same affection in the years ahead.

Your profile and previous posts suggest that you left Jet2 when it had circa 200 pilots and 28ish aircraft? Based on that foundation you offer the "valuable" advice of dismissing Jet2 as a career airline. In acknowledgement of your IMHO, I would politely suggest that much has changed since you left not least circa 500 pilots and 60ish aircraft with significant growth planned over the next 2 years at least.

Whilst there are always areas for improvement I think StopStart has made some very valid points.

I wish you all the very best in the Utopia of your current employment.

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Old 11th Jul 2013, 08:55
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There is a reason why this company is constantly recruiting...

Lots of folk kidding themselves...hang on for the CP job at BA!
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 09:14
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There is a reason why this company is constantly recruiting...
Because they have been in continuous profitable expansion for the last 10 years and have 8 more aircraft on the way next year?

A few have left for BA and Emirates.

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Old 11th Jul 2013, 09:15
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There is a reason why this company is constantly recruiting...
Yep, it's called continuous expansion. and very few leavers.
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 10:43
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Indeed. The current 'rush' for B757 Capts & FO's is because the 3 B757's in GLA & EMA are being transferred to LBA, NCL & MAN and the affected crews at EMA & GLA mostly decided to transfer to the 4 B73NG's that were arriving to replace them.

Hence the poor old B757 Fleet Manager has to effectively find 3 B757's-worth of crews. Most Capts will be sourced from the excellent, very experienced & very capable pool of SFO's within Jet2.com. We need many more FO's. I think the figure is up at around 29 split between 3 DEC's & 26 FO's which sounds about right if you plan on 3 aircraft - 5 crews/act - 30 pilots. There are also some retirees to throw into the mix, a few guys who have been Contracting here for a couple of Summers have been offered permanent 100% contracts & some who are waiting for start dates with the Gulf Majors', although that number is dwindling & in fact at least 1 who went to the airline who's name we dare not say, wants to come back to Jet2.com!!

I think this campaign will appeal to those are flying for DHL based in Germany who want to return home, some who are approaching 'Full Bucket' status in the land of Knoteetingham, those who can wangle a good severance deal from employers who are downsizing their B757/767 fleets & don't want to go through a complete new type rating course.
I don't know about the contracts on offer but there are options to do 100% pay for 100% roster & lesser pro-rata salaries for 7 months on/5 months off or 6 days on/8 days off. These are particularly attractive to those when you dress it up as "... sat at home for the winter on £XXXX/mth..."
It may not suit everyone but it's a cracking little firm that is a pleasure to work for.
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 14:23
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Hello all,

Does somebody know how will be the selection process?

Do you think that foreign pilots could have a chance?

I am Italian and I applied some days ago, no answer yet....

NTR 4200hrsTT
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 16:36
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How does the sector pay work at jet2? Ppjn is not very detailed on this.

Or in short, what can a new FO or a new Captain expect to take home after taxes, pension etc?
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 17:06
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They won't be short of DHL applicants, who'll feel right at home, similar cultures! Don't forget to pack your lunch!!!!
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 17:34
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Regardless of the company, isn't it just good news the UK is finally seeing some constant recruitment from EXS, MON and EZE...

With a revised economy, albeit prediction and house prices rising...lets hope we are coming to the end of what has been a loooooong tunnel!

I don't really get the doom-gloom mongers... Honiley I assume you are from the "Hamble Generation!"
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Old 12th Jul 2013, 15:16
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Old 12th Jul 2013, 16:37
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I put in a speculative application for DEC this week. I'm not rated on either type.

Within the week I received this:

"Thank you for your interest in Jet2.com and your recent application for one of our pilot vacancies. We will endeavour to process your application as soon as possible and will contact you within 4 weeks.
Next steps:
Your CV and supporting documentation will now be reviewed by the Recruitment Team who will contact you to arrange a convenient time for a telephone interview if your application is to be taken forward.
If you meet our requirements you will be invited to attend our Pilot Assessment Centre and if successful, will attend a simulator assessment shortly afterwards.
Once this has been completed you will be informed if you have been successful by a member of the Recruitment Team.
We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your application to become a Pilot with Jet2.com.
Thanks"

I've no idea if that is a good sign, or a bad sign, but it is nice to actually even get a response in this day and age.

So, from my side, well done jet2.com.

Let's see what happens next.
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Old 12th Jul 2013, 19:34
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EllanVannin,

There's 3 types of sectors. Short, medium and long - the longer the sector, the higher the sector pay.

Think the medium is around 10 pounds, but don't quote me on that.

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Old 12th Jul 2013, 19:51
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Thanks very much. How many equivalent medium
sectors a month would you tend to fly a month on average?
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Old 13th Jul 2013, 00:02
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Any ideas what will be covered in the phone interview?
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Old 13th Jul 2013, 10:33
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The first piece of good news (apart from the fact it is happening) I read about this recruitment drive by Jet 2 was that the 'compass test' might have been ditched but my heart sank when I read mention of the awful preliminary phone interview remaining in place.

I sincerely hope that 'your fate' won't rest with a 500hr first officer who has been thrown on the end of a phone, having just worked the early return from Palma, with a tick-box questionnaire.

Jet 2 lost the opportunity to recruit many good people when they first went down this route by asking questions about the (as then) uncertain terms and conditions that changed as the process went on.

If your answer over the phone at the time didn't fit with with their ideal answer eg are you prepared to pay for your type rating - answer 'no' - then that was the end of your beautiful relationship with Jet 2. The galling part was to discover that a few weeks later (post another review of T&Cs on offer) answering 'no' might have been OK if the question had even still been on the list.

The key to success appears to be to sound polite, cheerful and enthusiastic over the phone and say 'yes' to everything. You can argue the toss at a later stage.

Better still would be to get rid of the phone process entirely. The recruiters should be able to sort the wheat from the chaff from the application itself.

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