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BlackAndBrown,
You think that anyone on a Paris flexi contract is from ctc, and on the 500 hour ctc pay scale you used?
You think that a parc flexi gets the same as a parc, 'temp out of base', flexi? Which there are not many of, I should add.
Since your estimate only comes 500 euros short of his bracketed claim, you can start to see how it is possible to actually take home much more than that in this specific case he is talking about, over summer.
You think that anyone on a Paris flexi contract is from ctc, and on the 500 hour ctc pay scale you used?
You think that a parc flexi gets the same as a parc, 'temp out of base', flexi? Which there are not many of, I should add.
Since your estimate only comes 500 euros short of his bracketed claim, you can start to see how it is possible to actually take home much more than that in this specific case he is talking about, over summer.
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So about 6400euro before tax if on the £52 rate which kicks in above 1250 factored hours on CTC Ts and Cs? How is it 6 or even 7k AFTER TAX as has been claimed. Please do an example sum demonstrating it to me. No response will be conclusive.
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Wow, just read my post again please. This is not anything to do with ctc. 
If you haven't even grasped the fundamentals of parc, who is on them, how they vary, hourly scales, and the various tax arrangements available then I'm certainly not going to publish the details of these 'select' contracts which would only become misleading headline figures.
It is important to say that you can't keep that level of pay for much over a year. And it obviously varies depending on rosters given.
You're right about one thing; this isn't a willy waving contest, so take it or leave it. I was only standing up for the guy you claimed to be ridiculous.
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If you haven't even grasped the fundamentals of parc, who is on them, how they vary, hourly scales, and the various tax arrangements available then I'm certainly not going to publish the details of these 'select' contracts which would only become misleading headline figures.
It is important to say that you can't keep that level of pay for much over a year. And it obviously varies depending on rosters given.
You're right about one thing; this isn't a willy waving contest, so take it or leave it. I was only standing up for the guy you claimed to be ridiculous.
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I´m on the highest rate as a Flexicrew with Parc (67 pounds/h) in UK.
Last summer salaries were around 5000/5500 pounds/month net, but that was just for June, July, August and September. The rest has been extremely quiet for me and my colleagues flying as little as 20/30 hours per month, earning an average of 2000/2500 pounds when in our joining day they told us to expect around 67 hours/month in winter...I guess we are very expensive for the company thus they use cadets as much as possible during these months...really frustrating to see 1800 pounds in your payslip after been flying your ass off in Middle East and some other places for 5 years but hey, orange spirit forever!
Resuming for me its an average of 3500 pounds/month throughout the year.
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Last summer salaries were around 5000/5500 pounds/month net, but that was just for June, July, August and September. The rest has been extremely quiet for me and my colleagues flying as little as 20/30 hours per month, earning an average of 2000/2500 pounds when in our joining day they told us to expect around 67 hours/month in winter...I guess we are very expensive for the company thus they use cadets as much as possible during these months...really frustrating to see 1800 pounds in your payslip after been flying your ass off in Middle East and some other places for 5 years but hey, orange spirit forever!
Resuming for me its an average of 3500 pounds/month throughout the year.
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I like tea.
You seem to think this is a my cock is bigger than yours situation ( purely in a French domestic bird way ). What you should realise is that you are bottom of the feeding chain. You will be paid well when you are needed and badly when you are not. Given there is no real expansion planned over the next couple of years I would hate to be in your situation. A third class citizen regardless of CTC or PARC pedigree.
You are not an employee you are a disposable unit. While you are cost effective you will work, when you are not bye bye. Save while you can. I have a feeling that the EURO,s days are numbered. When that chicken comes home to roost you are very low on the feeding chain and your goose will be cooked.
Apologies for all the fowl references.
You seem to think this is a my cock is bigger than yours situation ( purely in a French domestic bird way ). What you should realise is that you are bottom of the feeding chain. You will be paid well when you are needed and badly when you are not. Given there is no real expansion planned over the next couple of years I would hate to be in your situation. A third class citizen regardless of CTC or PARC pedigree.
You are not an employee you are a disposable unit. While you are cost effective you will work, when you are not bye bye. Save while you can. I have a feeling that the EURO,s days are numbered. When that chicken comes home to roost you are very low on the feeding chain and your goose will be cooked.
Apologies for all the fowl references.
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The hours have dropped noticeably from last year to this year, but it was inevitable after the recruitment drive. No problem.
The main worry for Flexicrew now is if they continue to recruit in significant numbers next season. It isn't needed, especially given the halting of expansion. However a large proportion of Flexicrew will be on the highest pay scale by then.
If they do it's a rather negative indicator for the current batch, who's hours will only diminish beyond affordability as Jumbito is now finding. Now why would they propose to introduce a gaurantee of such a low yearly hour total...?
The main worry for Flexicrew now is if they continue to recruit in significant numbers next season. It isn't needed, especially given the halting of expansion. However a large proportion of Flexicrew will be on the highest pay scale by then.
If they do it's a rather negative indicator for the current batch, who's hours will only diminish beyond affordability as Jumbito is now finding. Now why would they propose to introduce a gaurantee of such a low yearly hour total...?
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I must say that I'm completly lost with all that. The way to get into Easy nowaday seems very complicated.
Regarding experienced A320 FO willing to join, from what I understood, you are on a contract from Parc or CTC for one year, flexible...
After one year you get the opportunity of a permanent Easyjet contract, the same as your colleague that join Easy 8 years ago? You are able to bid for the base of your choice?
If you meet the requirement (3000h TT ??) you are able to apply for command and join the queue...
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Regarding experienced A320 FO willing to join, from what I understood, you are on a contract from Parc or CTC for one year, flexible...
After one year you get the opportunity of a permanent Easyjet contract, the same as your colleague that join Easy 8 years ago? You are able to bid for the base of your choice?
If you meet the requirement (3000h TT ??) you are able to apply for command and join the queue...
Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Regarding experienced A320 FO willing to join, from what I understood, you are on a contract from Parc or CTC for one year, flexible...
After one year you get the opportunity of a permanent Easyjet contract, the same as your colleague that join Easy 8 years ago? You are able to bid for the base of your choice?
If you meet the requirement (3000h TT ??) you are able to apply for command and join the queue...
After one year you get the opportunity of a permanent Easyjet contract, the same as your colleague that join Easy 8 years ago? You are able to bid for the base of your choice?
If you meet the requirement (3000h TT ??) you are able to apply for command and join the queue...
.And yes, after you are offered a permanent contract, you have exactly the same rights than your colleagues, except the base bidding (usually the permantent contract came along with one year fixed at one base designated by EZY). Some of the PARC new joiners exceeds by far the 3000TT
.Cheers!
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FlexiCrew is the pits. Only take it if you need to. It combined with easyJet really should be seen as a 'need' arrangement not a 'want' arrangement on your part. If you try and be clever with the flexicrew scheme in terms of using it as a way to bypass or 'get in' you may get your arse bitten. Any positive outcome is a happy coincidence, not by design. All of that said, easyJet is a great company to fly for in every respect and there have been permanent opportunities given in mainand europe as a result of being on flexicrew. In terms of whether ths will continue I'd advise you to heed the advice that the past is not the future particularly in this industry and to a large extent in this world in my opinion.
I like tea, sorry, I genuinely wasn't having a go. You came across well and didn't annoy me! That said, even in the unlikely event that flexcrewers netted 6-8k in a month it is spurious, erroneous (that is derived from error on easyJets part) from a financial planning perspective to any prospective flexicrewer. It was a one off, probably the result of clever tax accounting and poor crew planning and can not be expected. Not even half of it can be.
I like tea, sorry, I genuinely wasn't having a go. You came across well and didn't annoy me! That said, even in the unlikely event that flexcrewers netted 6-8k in a month it is spurious, erroneous (that is derived from error on easyJets part) from a financial planning perspective to any prospective flexicrewer. It was a one off, probably the result of clever tax accounting and poor crew planning and can not be expected. Not even half of it can be.
