easyJet Pilot Recruitment 2012
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euro's indeed and no possibility at all to move from Lisbon to London base. You will have to sit out your 2 year contract and at the end you may or may not get a new contract in LIS.(maybe then you will get the ability to bid for other bases)
Easyjet is upgrading 100SFO's this year into LGW. These courses have been filled and there is capacity for more courses in unforseen circumstances. Last course runs in May. They are not desperate for experienced captains it seems. These SFO's have more total hours than previous years as the growth in easyJet has slowed down over past years. Time to command is somewhere around 5,5 years now (starting as cadet) and rising quickly.
Easyjet hasn't taken experienced FO's for years so this number would be very correct.
Latest rumour I heard today is that easyJet has gotten rid of 23 trainers due to less training demand foreseen. However it then seems these trainers have been replaced by external consultants who are cheaper.
Adm should be able to shed more light on the latest.
Btw fleet size winter 2011/2012 = 204 aircraft vs winter 2012/2013 = 204 aircraft. So NO GROWTH.
Maybe over summer we have couple more airplanes to boost profit due to timing of delivery vs end of lease contracts.
Also easyJet has no aircraft orders beyond 2015 I believe. This year they will supposedly make a decision on new replacement orders, 737max a320neo or bombardier c-series. The airline is maturing.
I'm not sure why this thread is running but I don't see any potential for DE recruiting.
Easyjet is upgrading 100SFO's this year into LGW. These courses have been filled and there is capacity for more courses in unforseen circumstances. Last course runs in May. They are not desperate for experienced captains it seems. These SFO's have more total hours than previous years as the growth in easyJet has slowed down over past years. Time to command is somewhere around 5,5 years now (starting as cadet) and rising quickly.
Easyjet hasn't taken experienced FO's for years so this number would be very correct.
Latest rumour I heard today is that easyJet has gotten rid of 23 trainers due to less training demand foreseen. However it then seems these trainers have been replaced by external consultants who are cheaper.
Adm should be able to shed more light on the latest.
Btw fleet size winter 2011/2012 = 204 aircraft vs winter 2012/2013 = 204 aircraft. So NO GROWTH.
Maybe over summer we have couple more airplanes to boost profit due to timing of delivery vs end of lease contracts.
Also easyJet has no aircraft orders beyond 2015 I believe. This year they will supposedly make a decision on new replacement orders, 737max a320neo or bombardier c-series. The airline is maturing.
I'm not sure why this thread is running but I don't see any potential for DE recruiting.
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Originally Posted by 737Jock
I'm not sure why this thread is running but I don't see any potential for DE recruiting.
I wonder why they advertised openings for experienced FOs and then decided not to go through with it. Any ideas?
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It's running because they intended to recruit DE last September... Then nothing happened apparently.
I wonder why they advertised openings for experienced FOs and then decided not to go through with it. Any ideas?
I wonder why they advertised openings for experienced FOs and then decided not to go through with it. Any ideas?
DEC outside LIS: Highly unlikely at the moment. With no growth, more F/O's will fullfill the requirements once (if) we start expanding again in the future, so they will be ready to fill required CMD positions from within at that time.
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Probably because we have a queue of wannabes with a bank balance to pay for a position on random rostering.
Why would the management look at employing experience when you have people willing to pay to work???
Why would the management look at employing experience when you have people willing to pay to work???
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No foreseeable DE Fo or Capts
Outside of Lisbon no recruiting of experienced pilots likely at EZY for the foreseeable.
They operate Cadet (soon to be MPL) and part time Flexi deal through CTC and PArc.
Flexi is poorly paid and often linked to a type rating deal - so really it's a form of P2F as no g-tee of a job at the end of it.
EZY have also had P2 Line Fly with people paying to fly their passengers for up to 100h then told to move along
If you are a US A320 pilot try Virgin America.
As CHIRP states, not a very happy place to be a Flexi pilot at present:
http://www.chirp.co.uk/Downloads/ATFB/ATFB101.pdf
They operate Cadet (soon to be MPL) and part time Flexi deal through CTC and PArc.
Flexi is poorly paid and often linked to a type rating deal - so really it's a form of P2F as no g-tee of a job at the end of it.
EZY have also had P2 Line Fly with people paying to fly their passengers for up to 100h then told to move along
If you are a US A320 pilot try Virgin America.
As CHIRP states, not a very happy place to be a Flexi pilot at present:
http://www.chirp.co.uk/Downloads/ATFB/ATFB101.pdf
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Some Flexi pilots are better paid than others depending on total hours and the agency in question. Parc rates nudge £67/flying hour and £250+ for a standby / ground duty.
People are leaving for stable employment, not because they can't stand the big orange machine. I just wish EZY could see this.
People are leaving for stable employment, not because they can't stand the big orange machine. I just wish EZY could see this.
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Yeah but no pension, a pathetic holiday pay, no expenses (and this is an expensive job to be in) and no security. All with zero respect. If working in the uk you may find your tax code will take time to adjust - 5000€ a month net is not a realistic expectation from flexicrew. A good month about £3500 and a bad month as low as £600 once all tax codes are sorted. But if you're happy then good for you and enjoy!
What I will add is that it IS an opportunity to get a permanent job.
What I will add is that it IS an opportunity to get a permanent job.
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I concur BlackandBrown, the figures you've quoted are much more realistic for take home pay over the medium term. Anyone who comes in on Parc and has paid for their type rating (£29k) their first year earnings will be inflated by the fact they can offset the cost of the type rating against tax. In effect having a tax free allowance of £36k. Yep, if your circumstances allow you to go to europe you can be out there in 6 to 9 months on a permanent contract and a fixed roster.
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Then you are not a Direct Entry, that is the confusion.
A Direct entry means employed directly by the company on entering your employment, hence direct entry.
You are supplied to EasyJet as a contractor, hence cannot be direct entry.
A Direct entry means employed directly by the company on entering your employment, hence direct entry.
You are supplied to EasyJet as a contractor, hence cannot be direct entry.
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Im flex and direct entry.
first month pay over E5000,- net. don't know what you used to, but for me this is ok!
first month pay over E5000,- net. don't know what you used to, but for me this is ok!
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i like tea, 6-7k AFTER tax in Paris last summer is impossible, because tax on last summers salary is not even paid! Take home in France is BEFORE tax, taxes are paid the following year.
These 7k are paid to your PLC this PLC will have to pay 40% of French social security as they employ a pilot based in France. So 4k left, minus 22% personal social security leaves 3k before tax. And no sick pay, holiday pay, bonuses, pension contributions, medical, insurance, uniform...
These 7k are paid to your PLC this PLC will have to pay 40% of French social security as they employ a pilot based in France. So 4k left, minus 22% personal social security leaves 3k before tax. And no sick pay, holiday pay, bonuses, pension contributions, medical, insurance, uniform...
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As long as Pilots like Flexman do not even understand what a Direct Entry (DE) pilot is they remain part of the problem, and Easyjet will continue to take advantage of them.
As mentioned above large numbers of Self Employed contract FOs have been off setting the costs of their Type Rating against their tax bill. Most have off set it over a 12 month period which has now finished and the reality of what they will actually take home each month is starting to emerge.
Also, the fact that under the Merlin offer they would be circa £50k worse off due to the clause which zeros captain loyalty bonus when they swap seats means the penny is finally dropping for even the most short sighted contractor.
As mentioned above large numbers of Self Employed contract FOs have been off setting the costs of their Type Rating against their tax bill. Most have off set it over a 12 month period which has now finished and the reality of what they will actually take home each month is starting to emerge.
Also, the fact that under the Merlin offer they would be circa £50k worse off due to the clause which zeros captain loyalty bonus when they swap seats means the penny is finally dropping for even the most short sighted contractor.
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6-7k is ridiculously impossible. This isnt a big dick contest, it's meant to help people make informed decisions, understand the reality and manage their expectations.
French flexi contracts had a guaranteed 85 hours a month I believe - £43x 85 = £3655. Say 6 standbys a month that you aren't called off? 6 x £150= £900
Therefore total monthly pay on an extremely good month = £4555 BEFORE TAX.
Into euros at 1.21 to the £ = 5511 Euros before tax. How did someone get 7K?
I'm not trying to have a go but come off it.
French flexi contracts had a guaranteed 85 hours a month I believe - £43x 85 = £3655. Say 6 standbys a month that you aren't called off? 6 x £150= £900
Therefore total monthly pay on an extremely good month = £4555 BEFORE TAX.
Into euros at 1.21 to the £ = 5511 Euros before tax. How did someone get 7K?
I'm not trying to have a go but come off it.