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I did hear or read somewhere recently (maybe in the ME forum?) that some non airbus rated guys are doing their sim rides in the old A310 sim, due to the 777 sims being maxed out with training…..
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Just a thought for those candidates about to attend the Emirates selection program.
I recently attended this program and failed on the final day. Whilst it's not a major issue for me as I have a good job with good prospects I was nonetheless dissappointed having done so well in the sim, compass test, abstract reasoning and pschycological profiling (so i was told by HR staff), only to fail the final day.
On my return flt I went over in my mind what may have gone wrong and at one point glanced at my pilots flight bag, the one I carried around the Emirates career centre for the 3 days containing my various books and paperwork. It's one of those typical flt cases that we all have, old and battered, bits of leather hanging off and covered in stickers.
So even though I wore a dark suit, clean shirt, tie and polished shoes did I fail because of my scruffy looking flt bag?, after all you are being assessed in one way or another the whole time and those who got through had new looking smart attache type cases.
I may be completely off course here "they may have just not taken to me" but for those about attend the program it's worth bearing in mind, get yourself a nice new flt bag, you don't want to fail because of something stupid like an accessory.
Please don't e-mail me regarding the details of the program, all the info is on the internet and I'm not into spending hours at the computer.
Best of luck.
CB
I recently attended this program and failed on the final day. Whilst it's not a major issue for me as I have a good job with good prospects I was nonetheless dissappointed having done so well in the sim, compass test, abstract reasoning and pschycological profiling (so i was told by HR staff), only to fail the final day.
On my return flt I went over in my mind what may have gone wrong and at one point glanced at my pilots flight bag, the one I carried around the Emirates career centre for the 3 days containing my various books and paperwork. It's one of those typical flt cases that we all have, old and battered, bits of leather hanging off and covered in stickers.
So even though I wore a dark suit, clean shirt, tie and polished shoes did I fail because of my scruffy looking flt bag?, after all you are being assessed in one way or another the whole time and those who got through had new looking smart attache type cases.
I may be completely off course here "they may have just not taken to me" but for those about attend the program it's worth bearing in mind, get yourself a nice new flt bag, you don't want to fail because of something stupid like an accessory.
Please don't e-mail me regarding the details of the program, all the info is on the internet and I'm not into spending hours at the computer.
Best of luck.
CB
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They use 777 or A330 and it's a pretty basic routine, (well it was 4 years ago). If you fly jets for a living don't waste your money on sim time.
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The main focus of the SIM assessment is CRM and the way you manage the operation. The flying side is important but it is not as important as the CRM etc. They are assessing you as a Captain - not an F/O, they want to see you brief, manage and communicate very well. If you happen to drift off heading or altitude but correct it then this will not go against you at all.
You could fly the thing like Chuck Yeager having spent £1000's on prep SIM time but if you couldn't manage a pi*s up in a brewery then you will fail.
If you fly jets for a living, particularly a Boeing then any SIM prep time is not required - save your money.
They do chop the vast majority of guys on day one after the SIM and Compass Testing. It would be well worth brushing up on the old mental arithamatic and basic ATPL knowledge though!!
Good luck to all
You could fly the thing like Chuck Yeager having spent £1000's on prep SIM time but if you couldn't manage a pi*s up in a brewery then you will fail.
If you fly jets for a living, particularly a Boeing then any SIM prep time is not required - save your money.
They do chop the vast majority of guys on day one after the SIM and Compass Testing. It would be well worth brushing up on the old mental arithamatic and basic ATPL knowledge though!!
Good luck to all
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Expensive in the UK I guess. Could easily get an hour in a 737 or older 757/767 sim for under $300 in the U.S.
Really, guys get lost trying to intercept a VOR radial; they get lost on downwind; they have to spend so much mental capacity to fly the airplane that they can't concentrate enough to do the CRM bits.
EK recruiting want the guys to succeed so a little bit of preparation would help to make the difference for many many applicants.
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Really, guys get lost trying to intercept a VOR radial; they get lost on downwind; they have to spend so much mental capacity to fly the airplane that they can't concentrate enough to do the CRM bits.
EK recruiting want the guys to succeed so a little bit of preparation would help to make the difference for many many applicants.
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Guy's getting lost on downwind; failing to intercept a radial; no capacity to talk...............Who the hell are we trying to hire, and from where!!!!!!!!!!!! I weep for the future.
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Got to agree with dustyprops on this one. If your flying jets then the sim ride should'nt prove to demanding. It's day 2 and 3 that you need to prepare for i.e do you fit their profile.
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@ captbod
On my return flt I went over in my mind what may have gone wrong and at one point glanced at my pilots flight bag, the one I carried around the Emirates career centre for the 3 days containing my various books and paperwork. It's one of those typical flt cases that we all have, old and battered, bits of leather hanging off and covered in stickers.
So even though I wore a dark suit, clean shirt, tie and polished shoes did I fail because of my scruffy looking flt bag?, after all you are being assessed in one way or another the whole time and those who got through had new looking smart attache type cases.
So even though I wore a dark suit, clean shirt, tie and polished shoes did I fail because of my scruffy looking flt bag?, after all you are being assessed in one way or another the whole time and those who got through had new looking smart attache type cases.
Well let's see captbod, don't you agree that a possible future employer is not worthy of your services if they fail to look past your shoddy flight case and rather than focus on your flying and management qualities as a pilot? Well, if that was the case then it again proves that they are obviously not looking for pilots but for the typical pay-for-training button pushing rich kids with a brand new Rimowa attache cases looking for a newer and bigger type rating to brag about to their friends. Let them! Be happy that EK didn't take you. As a matter of fact , harsh as it might sound right now, see it as a badge of honour!
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As I said, it may or may not have been a contributary factor to getting chopped on the final day (Emirates policy not to give feedback unfortunately), however its worth bearing in mind for those yet to attend the program, you wouldn't want to get binned because of a lack of attention to detail.
PS. Glad I managed to cheer you up this time of the morning.
As I said, it may or may not have been a contributary factor to getting chopped on the final day (Emirates policy not to give feedback unfortunately), however its worth bearing in mind for those yet to attend the program, you wouldn't want to get binned because of a lack of attention to detail.
PS. Glad I managed to cheer you up this time of the morning.
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What's the deal
I don't understand the enthusiasm to work for emirates ? I would NEVER want to be the hired help for a bunch of arabs, I don't care how well they pay.
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Its very easy to get carried away with the prospects of flying a shiny Emirates aircraft, but one thing that is very often overlooked, is where will you be in 10 years time.
Great, you may have a few thousand hours in command but where will that take you?
One aspect that is not always considered is your children's education.
Dubai is great when your kids are young, but will you want them to spend their whole education as an expat in an arab country?
Dont kid yourself and think that by that time Emirates will have basings or will make your life as a commuter easy. They never will.
You will be forced to make the decision either to split up the family or start looking for another job.
Where will that be? A contracting job in China? A great prospect to end your flying career!
All EK want is a bum on seat. They will flog you to the max with no regard for your long term health. Your contract will change many times.
I am constantly flying with a relatively new first officer who does nothing but bleat and whine about "if only they knew beforehand, they would never have joined"
Many f/o's cant wait to leave, some cant because they have got themselves in debt, others cant because there is nowhere to go.
The "good times" disappeared years ago.
Great, you may have a few thousand hours in command but where will that take you?
One aspect that is not always considered is your children's education.
Dubai is great when your kids are young, but will you want them to spend their whole education as an expat in an arab country?
Dont kid yourself and think that by that time Emirates will have basings or will make your life as a commuter easy. They never will.
You will be forced to make the decision either to split up the family or start looking for another job.
Where will that be? A contracting job in China? A great prospect to end your flying career!
All EK want is a bum on seat. They will flog you to the max with no regard for your long term health. Your contract will change many times.
I am constantly flying with a relatively new first officer who does nothing but bleat and whine about "if only they knew beforehand, they would never have joined"
Many f/o's cant wait to leave, some cant because they have got themselves in debt, others cant because there is nowhere to go.
The "good times" disappeared years ago.
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Very well put ekslave, finally some sense and a long(er) term vision!
But I guess the people who apply now (the low-cost 'I must get command on shiny medium jet' generation) don't want to hear it, just like they didn't want to hear anything that would burst their bubble when they joined the crappy low-cost outfits that they now so desperately want to leave.
Catch 22, jumping from frying pan into the fire....
But I guess the people who apply now (the low-cost 'I must get command on shiny medium jet' generation) don't want to hear it, just like they didn't want to hear anything that would burst their bubble when they joined the crappy low-cost outfits that they now so desperately want to leave.
Catch 22, jumping from frying pan into the fire....
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I don't understand the enthusiasm to work for emirates ? I would NEVER want to be the hired help for a bunch of arabs, I don't care how well they pay.
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Again its just the same individuals that keep on appearing trying to run Emirates down at any given opportunity
I appreciate the fact that the grass may not be greener but that's not the point of this thread, surely enough whining now by the small minority of those that obviously didn't make the right decision to join Emirates in the first place! The vast majority, and many friends that I know speak positively about it. The great thing is that you can vote with your feet and leave whenever you want!
Bokkenrijder - not everybody has the luxury of choice when first entering this industry in terms of their employer. You comments are pretty irrational and possibly insulting!
I appreciate the fact that the grass may not be greener but that's not the point of this thread, surely enough whining now by the small minority of those that obviously didn't make the right decision to join Emirates in the first place! The vast majority, and many friends that I know speak positively about it. The great thing is that you can vote with your feet and leave whenever you want!
Bokkenrijder - not everybody has the luxury of choice when first entering this industry in terms of their employer. You comments are pretty irrational and possibly insulting!