What Did You Take Home This Month?
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Last week Bae146 F/o in OZ on Aus$3700 -Aus $4300 depending on overtime etc+novated lease on car and 7% Superannuation.
This week Captain Falcon 200 (under training) Aeromedical retrieval operation based Singapore USD50000net+S$4000/mth 'living expences allowance' + S$1000/mth transport within Singapore allowance.C&T soon means an extra USD10000/annum.
One very happy little vegemite
MM.
This week Captain Falcon 200 (under training) Aeromedical retrieval operation based Singapore USD50000net+S$4000/mth 'living expences allowance' + S$1000/mth transport within Singapore allowance.C&T soon means an extra USD10000/annum.
One very happy little vegemite
MM.
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Hi there
LME at EIDW,3 yrs with the company,untyped,about £1100-1300 pm after taxes,deductions,etc including roster,nights etc.
Hey,ALT,if you're feeling cheesed off about your pay,nip up to Commuter some time and see what the Engrs.are on(and how much OT it takes to equal your wages)
regards
TDD
LME at EIDW,3 yrs with the company,untyped,about £1100-1300 pm after taxes,deductions,etc including roster,nights etc.
Hey,ALT,if you're feeling cheesed off about your pay,nip up to Commuter some time and see what the Engrs.are on(and how much OT it takes to equal your wages)
regards
TDD
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Virgin F/O 4 yrs service, 2 as S/O take home last month £2250 after 6% paid to a very average pension scheme(as some of you are aware!). By the way Virgin cabin crew, purser, 11 years service, 5 as purser take home £880. Oh for a real payrise and pension!
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B-767 Captain, major carrier in South America's southern cone, rather not give more details in case one of Pete Otube's cronies is snooping around, I guess beancounters are all the same everywhere. Anyway, 13 years with company: US$4500 after taxes, third world benefits. Any Ideas?
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Vikingpilot,
You would have had to make around 160 trips for pay + per diem. A second year SWA makes $53.89 per trip. That equates to $60.89 per hour. How many days off did you actually have?
If you are making that kind of money every month you are in the 28% federal tax bracket + State income tax if your state has one + FICA-MED and FICA-OASDI + 15% for you 401k (retirement), 1% union dues, medical, PMA, AD&D, LTD, VEBA, Uniforms and OPT life if you have it. Hey, tomorrow is the 20th, let us know how much you got to take home.
You would have had to make around 160 trips for pay + per diem. A second year SWA makes $53.89 per trip. That equates to $60.89 per hour. How many days off did you actually have?
If you are making that kind of money every month you are in the 28% federal tax bracket + State income tax if your state has one + FICA-MED and FICA-OASDI + 15% for you 401k (retirement), 1% union dues, medical, PMA, AD&D, LTD, VEBA, Uniforms and OPT life if you have it. Hey, tomorrow is the 20th, let us know how much you got to take home.
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Never mind salaries-this might be ok on Pprune, but sudddenly blurting out pay, how many square feet in the house, type of expensive car...often creates resentment among fellow employees. When not asked for, this type of talk is not a sign of good manners. Much resentment and animosity towards us has been created over the years by loud-mouthed pilots.
And the regional pilots usually work harder than pilots with the majors,even on domestic trips, at least in the US, and often for near minimum wage, at least for the First Officers.
As for productivity and days off to enjoy whatever you want to do, some questions for comparison: Do most pilots on Pprune fly near the regulation maximum per month, on average, or the company limit, whichever is first?
Also, whether covered by a union contract or not: does your company does its very best to utilize you on your duty days, or does it waste productivity by providing many schedules which have a large amount of ground time?
Note: for the laymen out there, hub and spoke airlines are never as efficient as the old fashioned linear flying (i.e. Southwest Airlines in the US). A Southwest pilot can explain it much better, but when we operate into hubs (often two or more times per day) we almost always pack up, change planes and do a much longer preflight at the next plane than we would at a 'spoke' airport, which is a turn around.
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And the regional pilots usually work harder than pilots with the majors,even on domestic trips, at least in the US, and often for near minimum wage, at least for the First Officers.
As for productivity and days off to enjoy whatever you want to do, some questions for comparison: Do most pilots on Pprune fly near the regulation maximum per month, on average, or the company limit, whichever is first?
Also, whether covered by a union contract or not: does your company does its very best to utilize you on your duty days, or does it waste productivity by providing many schedules which have a large amount of ground time?
Note: for the laymen out there, hub and spoke airlines are never as efficient as the old fashioned linear flying (i.e. Southwest Airlines in the US). A Southwest pilot can explain it much better, but when we operate into hubs (often two or more times per day) we almost always pack up, change planes and do a much longer preflight at the next plane than we would at a 'spoke' airport, which is a turn around.
[This message has been edited by Ignition Override (edited 21 November 2000).]
[This message has been edited by Ignition Override (edited 21 November 2000).]
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Ignition Override:
Excuse me, but I don't quite agree with you about Pilots speaking about pay between themselves, It is important that we as a group exchange information in order to help those colleages that work for Airlines that have hostile tactics against pilots, I doubt that there's an airline that does not thrive on productivity, some to the point of compromising safety (see the far east forum)we have to understand that new management strategic trends,worldwide, include lowering costs to the maximum, and that means lowering pilots salaries. As of offending fellow employees I think the new breed of beancouter shows off a lot more than we would, (IF.. we made that kind of money),and they don't have their jobs exposed twice a year by checkrides or medicals,they don't work nights or have their circadian clocks altered and they get to spend christmas home with their families, not in some hotel watching Hawai 5-0 reruns. Ours is one of the least understood professions in the world, try to explain to a white collar worker that if you screw up in your job you may go to prison or lose your licence and never be able to work again, not so with lawyers, engineers, doctors etc..So my point is that we have to stick together as a group because the world trend is toward diminishing our importance within the industry. If you haven't noticed it where you work, sooner or later you will, see some far east airlines that used to be jewels to work for and now are the champions of A and B scales and false promises.
Well, sorry but I got a little passionate
Excuse me, but I don't quite agree with you about Pilots speaking about pay between themselves, It is important that we as a group exchange information in order to help those colleages that work for Airlines that have hostile tactics against pilots, I doubt that there's an airline that does not thrive on productivity, some to the point of compromising safety (see the far east forum)we have to understand that new management strategic trends,worldwide, include lowering costs to the maximum, and that means lowering pilots salaries. As of offending fellow employees I think the new breed of beancouter shows off a lot more than we would, (IF.. we made that kind of money),and they don't have their jobs exposed twice a year by checkrides or medicals,they don't work nights or have their circadian clocks altered and they get to spend christmas home with their families, not in some hotel watching Hawai 5-0 reruns. Ours is one of the least understood professions in the world, try to explain to a white collar worker that if you screw up in your job you may go to prison or lose your licence and never be able to work again, not so with lawyers, engineers, doctors etc..So my point is that we have to stick together as a group because the world trend is toward diminishing our importance within the industry. If you haven't noticed it where you work, sooner or later you will, see some far east airlines that used to be jewels to work for and now are the champions of A and B scales and false promises.
Well, sorry but I got a little passionate
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What did I earn this month.......
Nil, nish, zip, bugger all. But then again I'm still hour building with the freedom to go where I like, when I like, wx permitting.
But I do know I'd rather this than break my back building extensions and such for people who keep changing thier minds, and the money isn't great if you take into account time lost because of wx !!!!!!!
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Nil, nish, zip, bugger all. But then again I'm still hour building with the freedom to go where I like, when I like, wx permitting.
But I do know I'd rather this than break my back building extensions and such for people who keep changing thier minds, and the money isn't great if you take into account time lost because of wx !!!!!!!
[This message has been edited by Solent 01 (edited 22 November 2000).]
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hi all. As a wannabe at the moment I have got through to British European later selection stages. Its now im starting to wonder how my finances will hold up after 30K loan if im lucky. anyone know what sort of money a FO on BE might expect after 5 yrs. Is it going to leave my bank with a big hole blown in the middle? I know life isnt all about money by the way - a little knowledge to confront the bank manager with would be nice though
Thanks
Thanks
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virgin recently recognised as BALPA .have put in appraisal to management of comparative pay/renumeration compared to handful of 'long haul' wide body crew airlines.eg,BA UNITED,SIA,etc.
at the moment fall far short of the above.
believe asking for approx.50% overall increase in package...
any comments??
at the moment fall far short of the above.
believe asking for approx.50% overall increase in package...
any comments??
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Atlas Air F/O $4581 before taxes. Time away from base was 504 hours (21 days). Involuntarily extended on pattern for 3 days. Treated like a Pak-in-Saudi by company. Company shifting jobs to UK to avoid US labor contract. Wife angry.
Hourly pay calculates to $9.00 per hour. Quitting soon as Walmart calls.
Hourly pay calculates to $9.00 per hour. Quitting soon as Walmart calls.