Flybe Recruiting and Ts & Cs
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I am afraid I disagree. The CC have not been pulling their collective fingers out on numerous issues. The Company play hard ball and the CC generally except what is presented to them. Last year was a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY Missed. The Company got away with it then and no doubt will do so again this year.
However, there are too many members who are impatient and expect results immediately, these are also partly to blame. If you stick to your guns you WILL get results but don't roll over the first time the Company refuse the next proposal.
And don't accept the first counter offer from the Company
However, there are too many members who are impatient and expect results immediately, these are also partly to blame. If you stick to your guns you WILL get results but don't roll over the first time the Company refuse the next proposal.
And don't accept the first counter offer from the Company
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1. What balls to suggest that the CC only talks for half the workers, because a). they were FOs once, and (much more important) b). they negotiate for the whole pilot force. If you've got an idea that only an FO could think of, send it in.
2. They ain't missing the chance this year - thats why nothing's been heard. It's all getting VERY messy. Blood everywhere apparently.
2. They ain't missing the chance this year - thats why nothing's been heard. It's all getting VERY messy. Blood everywhere apparently.
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Flybe Pilot Recruitment Day
I'm thinking about going along to Birmingham on Friday and having a chat.
To be honest I don't know much about this company at the moment - anyone got any useful info/inside knowledge, etc.....
Cheers
To be honest I don't know much about this company at the moment - anyone got any useful info/inside knowledge, etc.....
Cheers
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Longish article in yesterday's EDP, of local interst given the man's Air UK past.
This was the gist of it:
Flybe plans to float in 2006
UK low-cost airline Flybe is considering a £200 million ($354 million) stock market floatation in 2006.
The carrier, which flies out of Liverpool John Lennon Airport and is also based at Birmingham, Exeter and Belfast City, has appointed financial advisors Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein to examine its options.
It is thought to prefer a stock market listing over a private sale.
Jim French, chairman and chief executive of Flybe who owns a 9% stake, plans to appoint three or four independent directors to reform the firm's corporate governance in readiness for the float.
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Is it not somewhat strikingly strange that this thread has attracted such little interest? At other times these pages would have been abuzz with discussion as to tomorrow's gathering. Is it to be a non event? What doesn't Flybe have that Jersey European did?
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Cavorting.......I was thinking the same also !!
I'd of been keen to attend, but it seems to be clearly aimed at 'experienced' T/P or jet FO's and Cpts, and since I'm not in that category, not sure I'd even get through the door ! My 3 applications to date have not prompted an invite to interview !! :-(
CG.
I'd of been keen to attend, but it seems to be clearly aimed at 'experienced' T/P or jet FO's and Cpts, and since I'm not in that category, not sure I'd even get through the door ! My 3 applications to date have not prompted an invite to interview !! :-(
CG.
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Repeated requests to Flybe have failed to produce either the information pack mentioned in the recent advertisement in Flight International or an indication of maximum age requirement for recruitment of experienced pilots.
Birmingham Airport and the A14 are not pleasant places to spend a long day when the answers to even the most basic questions of research have not been forthcoming from the airline. If Flybe is so disinterested in providing any motivation for those who might attend its open day; then it can hardly blame anyone other than itself if it either emerges at the end of the day with a shortfall of crew for its requirements, or fails to interest candidates who might be superior to those with which it ends up.
Good luck to all who do go and; secure in professional arrogance as always:
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Can anyone post/pm what the package is at the moment,
PPJN simply gives a salary and £1.77 an hour away from base - which isn't exactly setting the world on fire. Is there sector pay?
What is the pension, loss of licence, private medical care deal or isn't there one?
Cheers.
PPJN simply gives a salary and £1.77 an hour away from base - which isn't exactly setting the world on fire. Is there sector pay?
What is the pension, loss of licence, private medical care deal or isn't there one?
Cheers.
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The sort of questions one hoped would be answered in the never appearing but much vaunted information pack
In several words is it my imagination or is flybe's pay so significantly worse than the other UK loco carriers to be somewhat of a joke?
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Pay is pants, £26000 Dash F/O £44 ish skipper, £32000 146 F/O £55 ish i think for a skipper. £525 annual increment for F/O`s £650 for those on the left. My personal view is we work as hard as other LoCo`s so therefore we should be paid as they are.
Yep £1.77 per hr duty pay whilst at work, if your away from base you get it every hour until you get back to base. About 42 quid a day.
Loss of licence yes we get that, can`t recall what the amount is.
Medical insurance yep we get that.
Pension yep, first year company pays 6% second 8% third year onwards they give 12%. But 12% of bugger all isnt a great deal. We are still waiting for our pay rise this year. I have a feeling management are in for a wake up over the next few weeks. lots of us leaving for better conditions. Even the Hosties have started to revolt
en-masses they are joining a union.
Medicals are also paid for.
Max age well im not sure we have many skippers over 60.
The Dash is a good ship to cut your teeth on (when it works)full efis fms and buckets of performance, flying, you will get lots of it. I would say if your new to the industry or just about to retire then flybe isnt a bad option.
Im not supprised there has been none of the said info comming out of Exeter even for a recruitment day, @rse and elbow never have communicated with each other. The management`s idea of communication is sending out a glossy leaflet every 10 minutes telling us what a great company flybe is with a profile of some obscure individual who no one has ever heard of let alone what they do. The only time in recent years we have seen anyone senior at a base is this last couple of weeks since the Hosties have started to rebel.
The folks on the line at flybe are a great bunch who work very hard for little or no thanks. However, those in Exeter well, im not sure what their interested in but its not the work force. I susspect its`s the looming floatation where some will do very nicely and the workers won`t. Its a shame they have this attitude as flybe could be really good.
Hope some of this info helps and i do appologise for the rant
Yep £1.77 per hr duty pay whilst at work, if your away from base you get it every hour until you get back to base. About 42 quid a day.
Loss of licence yes we get that, can`t recall what the amount is.
Medical insurance yep we get that.
Pension yep, first year company pays 6% second 8% third year onwards they give 12%. But 12% of bugger all isnt a great deal. We are still waiting for our pay rise this year. I have a feeling management are in for a wake up over the next few weeks. lots of us leaving for better conditions. Even the Hosties have started to revolt
en-masses they are joining a union. Medicals are also paid for.
Max age well im not sure we have many skippers over 60.
The Dash is a good ship to cut your teeth on (when it works)full efis fms and buckets of performance, flying, you will get lots of it. I would say if your new to the industry or just about to retire then flybe isnt a bad option.
Im not supprised there has been none of the said info comming out of Exeter even for a recruitment day, @rse and elbow never have communicated with each other. The management`s idea of communication is sending out a glossy leaflet every 10 minutes telling us what a great company flybe is with a profile of some obscure individual who no one has ever heard of let alone what they do. The only time in recent years we have seen anyone senior at a base is this last couple of weeks since the Hosties have started to rebel.
The folks on the line at flybe are a great bunch who work very hard for little or no thanks. However, those in Exeter well, im not sure what their interested in but its not the work force. I susspect its`s the looming floatation where some will do very nicely and the workers won`t. Its a shame they have this attitude as flybe could be really good.
Hope some of this info helps and i do appologise for the rant
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That was extremely helpful and many thanks. Doesn't sound as though the company has changed much since a passing fokker nod at JEA and LBA some years ago.
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Cavorting....
I know that you were probably looking for a rise, and you've got one.
There is nothing wrong with the standard of the majority of candidates who are successful with Flybe. In fact, pilots from Flybe are often looked upon extremely favourably by other airlines when they want to move on. If you are looking for a training airline, which I know that you are not, then you could do a lot worse.
I am not defending the company, just myself and my colleagues.
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I know that you were probably looking for a rise, and you've got one.
There is nothing wrong with the standard of the majority of candidates who are successful with Flybe. In fact, pilots from Flybe are often looked upon extremely favourably by other airlines when they want to move on. If you are looking for a training airline, which I know that you are not, then you could do a lot worse.
I am not defending the company, just myself and my colleagues.
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"In several words is it my imagination or is flybe's pay so significantly worse than the other UK loco carriers to be somewhat of a joke?"
YES! and it is wearing very thin right now
JEA, they were the days.
The whole place is sadly a shambles now.
WHY? MW and JC's legacy I'm afraid with a lot of scullduggery from BA.
Unfortunately the New Management, who should have told him where to get off long ago and stop trying to Max out the crews FTL's, are still under his spell.
The doggey dealings regarding stealing our DOIL's last year and now the same Fiasco presented with different wrapping paper with the cabin crew, leave a lot to be desired.
If it's loco you want then Easy and Ryan or Jet 2 are far more realistic options to think about, even if you do have to go the TRSS route.
YES! and it is wearing very thin right now
JEA, they were the days.
The whole place is sadly a shambles now.
WHY? MW and JC's legacy I'm afraid with a lot of scullduggery from BA.
Unfortunately the New Management, who should have told him where to get off long ago and stop trying to Max out the crews FTL's, are still under his spell.
The doggey dealings regarding stealing our DOIL's last year and now the same Fiasco presented with different wrapping paper with the cabin crew, leave a lot to be desired.
If it's loco you want then Easy and Ryan or Jet 2 are far more realistic options to think about, even if you do have to go the TRSS route.
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No offence intended to Flybe's pilots. Any old trout at the bottom of the river at which the barbed fly might have been directed was management.
The airline industry is at a pleasant time for flyers right now. Flybe, in common with companies such as Eastern, is only ever, for the foreseeable future, going to be a short term stepping stone airline. The threat of a bond commitment should fade into oblivion when compared with the salaries on offer from the likes of Easyjet or Ryan. A £20k bond can easily be paid off within a very short time from the post income tax differential between the salary at Flybe and those at nearby loco jet companies. Perhaps with this in mind, some bright spark at Exeter, might decide to formulate a pilot profile for recruitment more in keeping with the company's long term prospects. It would seem from this thread that Flybe's advertisement has attracted no interest whatsoever. It will be interesting to see how many are at Birmingham today when Flybe's personnel marketing leaves so much to be desired when it comes to advancing its own company's attributes.
