New Ryanair STN pay deal
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Originally Posted by Hary Carin
Many crew in Ryanair are on a very good wage considering they only work up to about 25 hrs in a given week, I think 66k a year for a part time job is no that bad, do you?
Michael...?
Originally Posted by Hary Carin
Many crew in Ryanair are on a very good wage considering they only work up to about 25 hrs in a given week, I think 66k a year for a part time job is no that bad, do you?
Michael...?
Still Peter I think that the element you have omitted is the lack of Union recognition at FR - for the moment. This is the reason EZ is "different".
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This is all so predictable. The rubbish first offer followed by the stooges (Inveritas, Harry Carin) urging compliance, before, shortly, the improved offer "hard fought" for by the so-called ERC's. REJECT, REJECT, REJECT.
The problem fr face this time is that the pilots can read the script so far in advance that all the bulls*it ramblings of Inveritas, Harry, Leo and the fellow travellers are meaningless. The company are over a barrel and they know it.
The extent of their desperation is the measure of the stooges appearing on this site, Do they really think spouting all the well-known lies is going to make people believe they are "ordinary line-pilots".
Take Inveritas for example, look at his previous posts, his only reaction to the previously discussed safety concerns is someone might mention it to him on a "social occassion" and ruin his evening. His only concern is image and spin, not the actual issue, the classic hallmark of the fr management approach to safety.
As for Harry Carin, 25hrs work per week? Enough said.
The problem fr face this time is that the pilots can read the script so far in advance that all the bulls*it ramblings of Inveritas, Harry, Leo and the fellow travellers are meaningless. The company are over a barrel and they know it.
The extent of their desperation is the measure of the stooges appearing on this site, Do they really think spouting all the well-known lies is going to make people believe they are "ordinary line-pilots".
Take Inveritas for example, look at his previous posts, his only reaction to the previously discussed safety concerns is someone might mention it to him on a "social occassion" and ruin his evening. His only concern is image and spin, not the actual issue, the classic hallmark of the fr management approach to safety.
As for Harry Carin, 25hrs work per week? Enough said.
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1. It is clear racism what you said .
2. Irish/British cabin crew get the same amount of money as Eastern European . So , cheap labour has nothing to do with nationality . It is about education , skills et c ..
1. It is clear racism what you said .
2. Irish/British cabin crew get the same amount of money as Eastern European . So , cheap labour has nothing to do with nationality . It is about education , skills et c ..
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I'm not able to say if Ryanair deliberately goes out looking for cheap labour but their actions (reduced salaries and crap terms & conditions) attracts less British/Irish people than foreigners (in proportion).
Ryanair's exploitation comes through offering reduced salaries which not many British/Irish people can afford due to living in this country. Sorry for being honest.
Ryanair's exploitation comes through offering reduced salaries which not many British/Irish people can afford due to living in this country. Sorry for being honest.
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The company is run by bullies and are sucked up to by people like Hary Carin who support the worst t's + c's in the industry (that is of course bearing in mind you know what the t's + c's are seeing as very few have a valid contract.)
Pay cut negotiations when the company has just announced record profits? Great why not sit back and take it up the a@=e..
Those that vote yes to a pay cut will only have yourselves to blame.
Evidence to back up the statement? Well look at the fr history, tea, coffee, water on board, uniforms, hotel at sim, loss of license, medical, car parking, id's, pensions for new starters etc etc.. all taken away and the pilots complained but in the end just accepted it!!!!
Isn't it time you guys said NO? Enough is enough! Do not vote for a pay cut! There is nothing left to take but your wages, and now they're trying it!!
Pay cut negotiations when the company has just announced record profits? Great why not sit back and take it up the a@=e..
Those that vote yes to a pay cut will only have yourselves to blame.
Evidence to back up the statement? Well look at the fr history, tea, coffee, water on board, uniforms, hotel at sim, loss of license, medical, car parking, id's, pensions for new starters etc etc.. all taken away and the pilots complained but in the end just accepted it!!!!
Isn't it time you guys said NO? Enough is enough! Do not vote for a pay cut! There is nothing left to take but your wages, and now they're trying it!!
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work 25hrs a week? At least MOL was cautious enough to use the word "fly" when he tried to mislead everyone!
I joined this company as a wide-eyed, innocent SO, happy to get my first job in an airline, thankful it was on jets, thankful to get a base near my home, I don't even mind the hours, just wish they were organised better (like long duties for late shifts rather than earlies).
Just under two years down the line, I was still getting f**ked over on SO pay, I still get NO benefits whatsoever, can't rely on the airline to back me up in the slightest as there's no union, facing what in reality would be a pay cut, while meanwhile management dictates crap from up on high and fosters a feeling of deep resentment in the workforce. THIS IS WHAT RYR IS ALL ABOUT.
If you're a wannbe pilot, looking for a first job - do yourself, and us, a favour - STAY AWAY, PLEASE!
Hary Carin - your name sounds like the Japanese word for self disembowlment - now there's an idea....
I joined this company as a wide-eyed, innocent SO, happy to get my first job in an airline, thankful it was on jets, thankful to get a base near my home, I don't even mind the hours, just wish they were organised better (like long duties for late shifts rather than earlies).
Just under two years down the line, I was still getting f**ked over on SO pay, I still get NO benefits whatsoever, can't rely on the airline to back me up in the slightest as there's no union, facing what in reality would be a pay cut, while meanwhile management dictates crap from up on high and fosters a feeling of deep resentment in the workforce. THIS IS WHAT RYR IS ALL ABOUT.
If you're a wannbe pilot, looking for a first job - do yourself, and us, a favour - STAY AWAY, PLEASE!
Hary Carin - your name sounds like the Japanese word for self disembowlment - now there's an idea....
