New Ryanair STN pay deal
 

You may laugh all day long , but this is what on offer -
6% pay incr over 4 yrs
Sector Pay -
FOR CAPT's, £22.50/ sched block hr, to nearest minute.
FOR CO-PILOTS, £18/hr
"Allowance" of 5K per yr for "expenses" and 5Kper yr for pension matching
Pens all'ce for Co-P's, is half.
5-4 Apr-Dec, then some 5-3's and similar exceptions to last yr, including penalties for being "not avail due sickness", not answering queries, etc etc.
6-3 twice a yr for Training.
Further incr's for Training staff.
To be decided by vote, deadline (for now), 16th March.
If you vote "No", then it's 2% without the extras.
No share options anymore.
And a lotta bullsh*t.

Shorely shome mishtake, Saveapenny! Not from the best paying airline in the world?????

I was at the Ryanair meeting in STN. I could not understand why DOB was wound up so much by the REPA stooges in the audience. :ugh: I was surprised that the Irish REPA guy said that he had used pilots mobile nos! The deal is a lot better than we are on now and far fewer strings than last year. Not as tasty as EasyJet but it may be the best we can get right now.

The REPA thing will droan on but I will vote for this and whenever REPA get the unions in then I can enjoy whatever they win for us. I'll take my jam now please and also hopefully enjoy some REPA jam in the future. Call me a mercenary but I want the 5/4 and the pay for an LTC is significantly increased - GBP10k.

Curious that PB did not present the STN event. I wonder is he on the way out? Some prat from REPA even defaced the Radisson hotel with the REPA stickers across their hotel pottery! Must have been 100 pilots knocking around.

The best ever was,pilots fined £400 if they fail to respond to a company query within one working day and anther fine if you fail to report to the office on a sick day to submit your sick cert.
inv on the 20th nov last year you said pb will leave or be pushed.anymore predictions?

GBP10k for LTC's will be taken from FO's salary . Sounds like fair deal .:ok:

Inveritarse
You must be a management stooge. Either that or you haven't got a clue.

On the money

just do a search in the :mad: and all will be explained.

Just to add my tuppence worth. A simple search of previous posts will quickly clarify that inveritas is not a pilot and is a management stooge. In fact he is almost certainly a Ryanair management figure. He likes MOL.

He will stop posting shortly unless he wants to go into competition with Leo. A new identity and the same guff will appear endlessly. There is always some innocent who will come along and believe what he writes, such is the nature of innocent pilots.

Speaking of Leo, I am sure that our "ordinary line pilot" will come along soon to sing the virtues of regular beatings and living on nothing.

I was at the Ryanair meeting in STN. I could not understand why DOB was
wound up so much by the REPA stooges in the audience. I was surprised that the Irish REPA guy said that he had used pilots mobile nos! The deal is a lot better than we are on now and far fewer strings than last year. Not as tasty as EasyJet but it may be the best we can get right now.

The REPA thing will droan on but I will vote for this and whenever REPA get the unions in then I can enjoy whatever they win for us. I'll take my jam now please and also hopefully enjoy some REPA jam in the future. Call me a mercenary but I want the 5/4 and the pay for an LTC is significantly increased - GBP10k.

Curious that PB did not present the STN event. I wonder is he on the way out? Some prat from REPA even defaced the Radisson hotel with the REPA stickers across their hotel pottery! Must have been 100 pilots knocking around.
Yesterday 17:34 [QUOTE)

HOPEFULLY THIS **** IS ALONE IN HIS THOUGHTS,

inveritas - nice try, but it won't work this time :ugh:

Stjuk, sorry to disagree, it wasn't even a nice try. In fact, it was amazing how badly prepared and briefed the FR management team were. Unable to answer questions, silly and obviously misleading claims .... kinda like the nonesene "truthmyarse" spouts above.

Aloue - I couldn't agree with you more.

My response was to [B]inveritas[B] who is trying to convince others that it is a good deal...

... and along comes a probationary PPRuNer ... with what looks amazingly like.... telling Ryanair pilots they should accept such nonsense. I mean to say...

Hey guys. Recognise the style. Why do all "Ryanair pilots" who wish to support management seem to use the same style, followed by why you should give in / cannot win / be fearful / accept anything Ryanair says as the only verifiable truth in the universe??

Of course there are people who do believe it, poor fools, which is why they keep doing it.

Hary - you can believe what you want to believe,that is your prerogative.but we will make all the difference and you are welcome to lay down and take it if you like.we will stand up and fight,and win a better deal even for people who like you,who are dead but to be buried.glad to see that you acknowledge that a vote for anything that ryanair management proposes will hurt everybody.you just figure that you will not be in the group that gets hurt.so typical ryanair,**** ON ANYONE,AS LONG AS IT IS NOT ME!quite pathetic.
You ain't seen any heat yet buddy,we are just getting started.

Grow up,Grow balls,be a man!for once in your life!

1. Irish/British pilots have never been up to 99% of the work force in Ryanair .
2. Eastern European pilots have always been used by propaganda machine . I remember a MEMO from famous WB , saying that hundreds of pilots from LOT, MALEV , CSA and other companies are waiting to join RYR . Well , in the last 12 months I have flown twice with eastern European FO's .
3. It is not really about supply and demand . It is about quality . I mean assessments , initial training , command training et c . Standard now is a long way down from it was years ago . Result - unstabilised approaches , level busts et c .
4. 66K a year basic is a joke .

Hary Carin,
Don't know where you get your info but it is wrong.
"Too many pilots", you must be joking! For the last five years I am working as a contractor and each year I get more and more calls. They start calling earlier and earlier and again and again.The T& C's are going up every day. Only exception: FR, they offer less now than two years ago. At that time they were market leader, now they are almost at the bottom end.

Super Pilot,

Thank you for flying Ryanair and also for pointing out the reality of the EU workforce situation. It has changed and will change over the next few years, the supply has been well forcast and predictions that were made a few years ago are now a reality. I would not say that Ryanair exploits it's workforce as it is their choice to join, stay or go as they please. Again if you want smiles and huggs when you turn up for work then maybe easyjet might be a better option for you!:cool: Many crew in Ryanair are on a very good wage considering they only work up to about 25 hrs in a given week, I think 66k a year for a part time job is no that bad, do you?

Michael...?