Flybe to aquire BA Connect. Crew thread. (No Spotters)-(Part 2)
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A.Jamieson.
Your lot. aka the press, have totally missed the point with this deal.
BA have just punted about 1200 regional ground staff onto the unemployment register!
Most folk would judge that to be significant or newsworthy- I would!
There's been v. little in the papers.
DO YOUR JOB.
Your lot. aka the press, have totally missed the point with this deal.
BA have just punted about 1200 regional ground staff onto the unemployment register!
Most folk would judge that to be significant or newsworthy- I would!
There's been v. little in the papers.
DO YOUR JOB.
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Flying bug. Go and ask the street. Second thoughts you better not. Jumped up rich kids like yourself have a hard time with real life and you might just say the wrong thing.
You obviously don't like the situation with a merged list but that is the way it is. Accept it and get on with your job. Stop crying to mummy all the time.
Flybe are in a mess at the moment. We can only hope they come out the other side. What concerns me is that Air Lingus looked into purchasing Flybe and walked away rather quickly. I wonder why? Maybe if you put more effort into your job things might be slightly different.
You obviously don't like the situation with a merged list but that is the way it is. Accept it and get on with your job. Stop crying to mummy all the time.
Flybe are in a mess at the moment. We can only hope they come out the other side. What concerns me is that Air Lingus looked into purchasing Flybe and walked away rather quickly. I wonder why? Maybe if you put more effort into your job things might be slightly different.
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ir Lingus looked into purchasing Flybe and walked away rather quickly.
flybe was never sale, and I'm sure JF would never have entertained it - nor would the trustees/shareholders.
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Originally Posted by brain fade
There's been v. little in the papers.
DO YOUR JOB.
DO YOUR JOB.
We reported the threat of job losses back in November (Flybe deal threatens 350 Scottish BA jobs) and again in December (Salmond demands job assurances over BA sell-off). We were the only paper to give the actual announcement a full two-page spread (BA's air apparent must set higher standards, 6 March). The Herald also covered the issue of job losses on 6 March.
So you must either be registered blind or reading the wrong papers.
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Good coverage by you in Scotland obviously - hardly a ripple in Manchester or Birmingham press.
Your coverage covered your area (Scotland) and as you would expect, not much on job losses at Man or Brum
Brain fade was probably reflecting on the lack of more southern coverage - which was really quite poor
Good coverage by you in Scotland obviously - hardly a ripple in Manchester or Birmingham press.
Your coverage covered your area (Scotland) and as you would expect, not much on job losses at Man or Brum
Brain fade was probably reflecting on the lack of more southern coverage - which was really quite poor
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I have seen a small amount in the press but nothing like the amount it deserves.
1200 folk being laid off by BA merits much more attention than it has received.
BA have gotten away with their withdrawel from the regions with hardly anything in the papers or the other media.
THe 'sale' of BACON to Flybe was the cover under which this was done.
I have seen a small amount in the press but nothing like the amount it deserves.
1200 folk being laid off by BA merits much more attention than it has received.
BA have gotten away with their withdrawel from the regions with hardly anything in the papers or the other media.
THe 'sale' of BACON to Flybe was the cover under which this was done.
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remoak - just to correct you there slightly, although I have my doubts about the Aer Lingus thing, please remember that the Walker family have been trying to sell the Company for a number of years, be it through a public flotation or some other means. Jim has always said that he'll take his money and run when that happens, although I can't see it happening for a little while now.
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Yes I'm aware of that - I was cleaning out the old files last week and must have come across five different letters from BP and later JF, explaining why the float was off, yet again... I reckon that "float" rumour must qualify as an urban myth by now, it's been put on hold so many times!
I don't believe that sale would have been contemplated until the expansion was complete, though. A float, maybe, but not an outright sale.
But WTFDIK...
I don't believe that sale would have been contemplated until the expansion was complete, though. A float, maybe, but not an outright sale.
But WTFDIK...
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Indeed. What I find quite amusing is the number of people that have stayed with the Company solely on the basis of what they'll get from selling their allotted shares after a flotation! 
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So what is the deal on combining seniority lists then??
Agreed last week by the CCs and waiting for management "ratification"
Sounds like a hybrid solution based on date of joining.
Someone must know???
Agreed last week by the CCs and waiting for management "ratification"
Sounds like a hybrid solution based on date of joining.
Someone must know???
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scarcely one week down the road........all our worst nightmares reality.
Chaotic operation, make-it-up as-you-go rostering, bully boy tactics to cajole and bully into working.
Latest desperate attempt to slow the pace of departure..........a letter from management tellng us that we now have to give up to four months notice of resignation.(previously three)
No contractual right to make such a change.........but, hey, why should the company bother with a small detail concerning whats lawful or not?
Totaly vile.
Good luck to all those still looking!
Chaotic operation, make-it-up as-you-go rostering, bully boy tactics to cajole and bully into working.
Latest desperate attempt to slow the pace of departure..........a letter from management tellng us that we now have to give up to four months notice of resignation.(previously three)
No contractual right to make such a change.........but, hey, why should the company bother with a small detail concerning whats lawful or not?
Totaly vile.
Good luck to all those still looking!
well done flyer guy,cheered me up after a long day!
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I have been working for a week now and is has been absolutely chaotic. You wouldnt imagine the disorganisation there is, a real shame!! We have known that Flybe were going to take over BACON for 5 months or more and not much has been done to organise a better transition.
I know its only been a week but come on people, we are all trying are best!
I know its only been a week but come on people, we are all trying are best!
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the engineers are left in limbo too what have flybe been doing since NOVEMBER the CC rosters seem to be in chaos I flew to IOM with a CC member rostered to work 145 after she told crew control she was 146 qualified, they sent her anyway piss ups and brewerys spring to mind
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I reckon one of the biggest problems is that they decided to change everything at one go. Had the management left the handling for a while, the ramp contracts, etc, perhaps it could have transitioned mor slowly and easier, then again, a clean break and time to fix it before the real summer starts is also a valid option, just more chaotic in the short term
The IOM is a depressing place right now. All the engineers bar the line have been put on gardening leave, the hangar is closed. Flight support are doing their best to prove just why Euromanx has been such a laughing stock these past few years...I've never seen so many elementary check-in errors in such a short time.
Manchester cancellations seem commonplace, and because it's Flight Support, pax get switched onto Euromanx flights in seconds-funny that.
The thing is, it will get better, new staff will get the hang of things and the errors should reduce as time goes on. Crew shortages will be the huge hurdle to jump though. That won't improve I suspect until the industry crashes in a couple of years.
All we can do is try not to let our tempers fray and try our best to get the job done in good spirit. Best wishes to us all.
The IOM is a depressing place right now. All the engineers bar the line have been put on gardening leave, the hangar is closed. Flight support are doing their best to prove just why Euromanx has been such a laughing stock these past few years...I've never seen so many elementary check-in errors in such a short time.
Manchester cancellations seem commonplace, and because it's Flight Support, pax get switched onto Euromanx flights in seconds-funny that.
The thing is, it will get better, new staff will get the hang of things and the errors should reduce as time goes on. Crew shortages will be the huge hurdle to jump though. That won't improve I suspect until the industry crashes in a couple of years.
All we can do is try not to let our tempers fray and try our best to get the job done in good spirit. Best wishes to us all.