Flybe to aquire BA Connect. Crew thread. (No Spotters)-(Part 2)
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"I flew to IOM with a CC member rostered to work 145 after she told crew control she was 146 qualified, they sent her anyway piss ups and brewerys spring to mind"
I sincerely hope not! If this was the case and she was not qualified on type, then there are some serious Flight Safety implications here.
BR.
I sincerely hope not! If this was the case and she was not qualified on type, then there are some serious Flight Safety implications here.
BR.
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Not again!
As I remember, it took nearly 18 months to amalgamate the Loganair Fleets with Manx back in the early nineties, and this is several orders of magnitude greater.
You don't just press a switch you know!!
Give it time and stop whinging for heaven's sake, if you have anything useful to contribute, then try doing just that, but destructive criticism is ridiculous and unhelpful, I thought we were past all that.
Of course......there's still the door and your feet are capable of voting...
You don't just press a switch you know!!
Give it time and stop whinging for heaven's sake, if you have anything useful to contribute, then try doing just that, but destructive criticism is ridiculous and unhelpful, I thought we were past all that.
Of course......there's still the door and your feet are capable of voting...
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Ah ,but...
The thing that's winding me up is that to all intents and purposes, our little route is fully crewed, has a stable route, one hull, good engineering and has really had very little change, except for the ground handling. I know change takes time, but checking in pax isn't rocket science and it isn't getting much better either.
Anyway, got back on time yesterday, so TGF small mercies, eh?
Still trying MY best to make it all work out fine though, there really isn't much other option anyway.
The thing that's winding me up is that to all intents and purposes, our little route is fully crewed, has a stable route, one hull, good engineering and has really had very little change, except for the ground handling. I know change takes time, but checking in pax isn't rocket science and it isn't getting much better either.
Anyway, got back on time yesterday, so TGF small mercies, eh?
Still trying MY best to make it all work out fine though, there really isn't much other option anyway.
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According to Jim's friendly welcoming letter it will be all the fault of the remaining rashers if it goes TŁtts up.
By the way, if we dont like it we can get out..........provided we now give as much as four months notice!!!! (previousley three)
Particularly gratifying to hear a rumour that Jim and his directors will be just fine if it all goes pear shaped. Apparently up to 18 million of the BA Ł100 million slush fund (the money FLYBE was paid to take BAcon) has been earmarked for Directer bonuses and pension contributions (youll never see it in the accounts though..........handy being part of a Jersey trust eh Jimlad??) . Couldnt possibly be true........could it.
Didnt someone do something rather similar with the MG Rover slush fund that the government gave them before the company went bust??
By the way, if we dont like it we can get out..........provided we now give as much as four months notice!!!! (previousley three)
Particularly gratifying to hear a rumour that Jim and his directors will be just fine if it all goes pear shaped. Apparently up to 18 million of the BA Ł100 million slush fund (the money FLYBE was paid to take BAcon) has been earmarked for Directer bonuses and pension contributions (youll never see it in the accounts though..........handy being part of a Jersey trust eh Jimlad??) . Couldnt possibly be true........could it.
Didnt someone do something rather similar with the MG Rover slush fund that the government gave them before the company went bust??
As an aside. When easyJet took over Go the transition took 6 months. We were all briefed on the project and the various stages were outlined online and in briefing packs. One month a few SOP's would change. The next would be new uniforms and crew ID's. Following that some more SOP changes and new manuals. The next month the Sim details were changed and postholders transitioned. The month after the aiport signage and livery were changed and the final SOP's were introduced.
You get the picture.
Slowly, carefully and pre-briefed.
At the time there was resentment that the 35 managers charged with the transition process were to share a Ł10m bonus IF it all happened on time and without major cockup. The main man being Ed Winter (ex-BA EOG and GO CEO) pocketing a million.
I think it was small change for implementing such a fraught and complex task. It was done well and the customers were basically unaware.
So it can be done. It can be done well. It has been done well on a bigger scale than Flybe.
Its just down to management.
Cheers
WWW
You get the picture.
Slowly, carefully and pre-briefed.
At the time there was resentment that the 35 managers charged with the transition process were to share a Ł10m bonus IF it all happened on time and without major cockup. The main man being Ed Winter (ex-BA EOG and GO CEO) pocketing a million.
I think it was small change for implementing such a fraught and complex task. It was done well and the customers were basically unaware.
So it can be done. It can be done well. It has been done well on a bigger scale than Flybe.
Its just down to management.
Cheers
WWW
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In a word PROFESSIONALISM!
The one word that would be the last way of describing this utter shambles of these amateur bumpkins.
Hardly surprsing when you look at the experience (lack of) of some of the key players.
The one word that would be the last way of describing this utter shambles of these amateur bumpkins.
Hardly surprsing when you look at the experience (lack of) of some of the key players.
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Seniority Lists
Hmmm...
The seniority list is being merged, on a percentage position criteria from the original 2 lists.
So, I was half way up my previous Flybe seniority list, and I still am 50% the way up... but a lot more pilots are above me. There is an bid "aspirational freeze" for the Flybe pilots until the end of summer 2008.
In my circumstances it'll slow down my move from right to left seats. Unfortunately you can't please everyone all of the time. What do you think, am I pleased or not???
The seniority list is being merged, on a percentage position criteria from the original 2 lists.
So, I was half way up my previous Flybe seniority list, and I still am 50% the way up... but a lot more pilots are above me. There is an bid "aspirational freeze" for the Flybe pilots until the end of summer 2008.
In my circumstances it'll slow down my move from right to left seats. Unfortunately you can't please everyone all of the time. What do you think, am I pleased or not???
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Snigs don't panic and don't feel hard done by. Most of those extra pilots above you won't be on the list come October ! They haven't even removed those working their notice let alone the many more about to hand it in. Most EASY courses now are not until September !
Oh and by the way three calender months means just that. The new definition is totally illegal especially as no one has yet signed a Fly Be contract. Until that tme BA Connect contract is still valid and three months means just that. However, I suspect this has only been done to draw out those people sitting on their resignations for EASY courses in AUG / SEP. Lots of them !
And as for the latest letter of welcome from JF. All I can say is Goodbye ! Anyone who thinks BACON failed because of pilot's / Cabin Crew / Engineers T&Cs or attitude is a total prat ! (I think I can say that on here although I would like to be a bit ruder).
Oh and by the way three calender months means just that. The new definition is totally illegal especially as no one has yet signed a Fly Be contract. Until that tme BA Connect contract is still valid and three months means just that. However, I suspect this has only been done to draw out those people sitting on their resignations for EASY courses in AUG / SEP. Lots of them !
And as for the latest letter of welcome from JF. All I can say is Goodbye ! Anyone who thinks BACON failed because of pilot's / Cabin Crew / Engineers T&Cs or attitude is a total prat ! (I think I can say that on here although I would like to be a bit ruder).
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Funny how the Bacon BALPA website falls over at critical times,
Just been greeted with "Welcome to the Air 2000 Members Forum", No posts and you can't post either.
Probably just as well!!
Doh
Just been greeted with "Welcome to the Air 2000 Members Forum", No posts and you can't post either.
Probably just as well!!
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It would seem that some people are affected, others can still get in to the old Bacon site. Take a look at the members list on the new (non working Air 2000) site - surprised to see a manager listed there. Perhaps it is as well it isn't working?
