Jet2 757 Fleet?
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Bam,
What about the rights of the fare paying public who trust us with there lives? Forget the accident. This is about Channels behavior in relation to a Channel pilot.
The big man does what PM tells him to do. He has no authority just like all the other post holders at Channel. They only remain in post if they do as they are told by PM.
As for Trip thinking he knows who Pulp is, yer right!
Anybody seen Frank?
What about the rights of the fare paying public who trust us with there lives? Forget the accident. This is about Channels behavior in relation to a Channel pilot.
The big man does what PM tells him to do. He has no authority just like all the other post holders at Channel. They only remain in post if they do as they are told by PM.
As for Trip thinking he knows who Pulp is, yer right!
Anybody seen Frank?
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Firstly, this thread is not about "Channels behaviour in relation to a Channel pilot". It was supposed to be about Jet2's 757 fleet. If you want it to be about anything else, start a different thread.
As regards Pulp Fiction - Ryanair Pilot shortage hits crisis Point? Page 2 is very funny. The posting at the top of page 3 might be of particular interest (last line - although most had worked it out a long time ago). Now, if you know who X-Centric is...... (believe me, I do). Bit of a shame though. I was really enjoying watching him imagine that he had ANYONE fooled.
It's not my place to trash the guy, nor would I want to. And nor is it my place to 'out' him - simple respect for his wish to remain 'anonymous'. That's why I have studiously tailored my posts. He does what he does, and that's up to him - 'sticks and stones' and all. And I really do wish him all the best.
Wishing you well too,
Trips
Oh, and I spoke to Frank yesterday. Give him a call and ask him if it really is him on here. You don't have to reveal your pprune identity, so no worries about being 'ritually sacked'.
This is all getting very boring now. Fare thee well.
Firstly, this thread is not about "Channels behaviour in relation to a Channel pilot". It was supposed to be about Jet2's 757 fleet. If you want it to be about anything else, start a different thread.
As regards Pulp Fiction - Ryanair Pilot shortage hits crisis Point? Page 2 is very funny. The posting at the top of page 3 might be of particular interest (last line - although most had worked it out a long time ago). Now, if you know who X-Centric is...... (believe me, I do). Bit of a shame though. I was really enjoying watching him imagine that he had ANYONE fooled.
It's not my place to trash the guy, nor would I want to. And nor is it my place to 'out' him - simple respect for his wish to remain 'anonymous'. That's why I have studiously tailored my posts. He does what he does, and that's up to him - 'sticks and stones' and all. And I really do wish him all the best.
Wishing you well too,
Trips
Oh, and I spoke to Frank yesterday. Give him a call and ask him if it really is him on here. You don't have to reveal your pprune identity, so no worries about being 'ritually sacked'.
This is all getting very boring now. Fare thee well.
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Well 2engop, what are your thoughts about joining this airline now? I know what mine are and i seriously wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. If only half of the comments on this thread and the thread entitled, 'an honest and uncensored debate about Jet2,' are true then it is an unsafe, regime lead organisation. There is something very wrong with this company. It also looks as though Sub Rosa, Pulp Fiction and so on have hit a nerve with Trip Switch:-
It's kind of a clandestine warning, isn't it? 'Carry on posting on this thread and i'll expose who you are.' I don't know who you are Trip Switch but you really are coming across as the 'Butt Kisser' that you have been accused of. You seem to be standing behind this MFB character, using him as a shield and letting it be known that you are fighting for the good name of Jet2. You're obviously hoping that it will progress your career. Unfortunately, from what i've read about your airline, it probably will.
I know exactly who you are and it was about to get a whole lot of nasty.
Now, if you know who X-Centric is...... (believe me, I do). Bit of a shame though. I was really enjoying watching him imagine that he had ANYONE fooled.
Oh, and I spoke to Frank yesterday. Give him a call and ask him if it really is him on here. You don't have to reveal your pprune identity, so no worries about being 'ritually sacked'.
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Jet2.com is NOT an unsafe airline. As Channel Express flying cargo we learnt our lessons the hard way. We have not had any incident like that since and dont intend to.
Monde I know who some of these people are and to out pilots on here you would be a complete ****
I know Trip and He certainly is not in that category.
Monde I know who some of these people are and to out pilots on here you would be a complete ****
I know Trip and He certainly is not in that category.
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"A clandestine warning"????!!! Oh, come on. This is ridiculous. So what about about,
I have done/said nothing to reveal his true identity - no innuendos..... NOTHING (unlike some of the comments I have been the recipient of). I could have done so a long time ago, was I so inclined. I did not, and nor do I wish to (read 'will I'). I have, on every occasion, wished him well (genuinely), and I shall continue to do so. Yes, I did get wound up at one stage (I am only human), but then decided against biting back. It's about treating people with respect, whatever they throw at you.
"Hide behind MFB"????!!! Oh please!! How's that then? First of all, I am way big enough and ugly enough to look after myself. Secondly, I have nothing to hide from. And thirdly, because some people make what I consider GROSSLY unfair accusations and I challenge them to actually make the call and find out for themselves, this is 'butt kissing'???!! Maybe you should read pilothouse's last post again. 'Butt kissing' is such a childish accusation.
Yes I defend Jet2....... and why the hell shouldn't I? And it has nothing to do with furthering my career. Maybe, juuuust maybe, I am very happy here, doing a job I love, working with some great people and I don't like seeing it trashed just because someone decides to run a personal vendetta against the company or any of the individuals who work within it (whatever their position). I am not alone. To unfairly attack people, whoever they are, and embark on rather insidious defamatory character assassinations in such a public forum, whilst hiding behind the cloak of anonymity, is disgusting. And having been on the receiving end of some of it, I damn well reserve the right to argue back. Things are not perfect at Jet2, show me an airline where they are, but it would be nice if the debate was kept above the playground level.
Enough is enough. As far as I can see, there is no more to be gained from this discussion, and, with respect, I shall take my leave.
Wishing you all the very best, whoever and wherever you are,
Trips
"A clandestine warning"????!!! Oh, come on. This is ridiculous. So what about about,
"And nor is it my place to 'out' him - simple respect for his wish to remain 'anonymous'"?
"Hide behind MFB"????!!! Oh please!! How's that then? First of all, I am way big enough and ugly enough to look after myself. Secondly, I have nothing to hide from. And thirdly, because some people make what I consider GROSSLY unfair accusations and I challenge them to actually make the call and find out for themselves, this is 'butt kissing'???!! Maybe you should read pilothouse's last post again. 'Butt kissing' is such a childish accusation.
Yes I defend Jet2....... and why the hell shouldn't I? And it has nothing to do with furthering my career. Maybe, juuuust maybe, I am very happy here, doing a job I love, working with some great people and I don't like seeing it trashed just because someone decides to run a personal vendetta against the company or any of the individuals who work within it (whatever their position). I am not alone. To unfairly attack people, whoever they are, and embark on rather insidious defamatory character assassinations in such a public forum, whilst hiding behind the cloak of anonymity, is disgusting. And having been on the receiving end of some of it, I damn well reserve the right to argue back. Things are not perfect at Jet2, show me an airline where they are, but it would be nice if the debate was kept above the playground level.
Enough is enough. As far as I can see, there is no more to be gained from this discussion, and, with respect, I shall take my leave.
Wishing you all the very best, whoever and wherever you are,
Trips
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Monge, a bit muppet like to say you're not going to join Jet2 because of what someone wrote on Pprune!
Like Trip Switch said, show us an airline where it's perfect!
Like Trip Switch said, show us an airline where it's perfect!
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You really are a very nasty bunch aren't you? So i'm now called 'monge' just for posting against your opinion eh, Nearly Man. So why do you call yourself 'Nearly Man?' is it a) because you're a poofter or b) you have no balls?
Talk about hiding behind anonymity!
Shuperstar Loadie, you still don't sound safe to me. Sabotaged a/c, appalling captains, not listening to crew reports and the consequent Helios incident, fuel leaks and you continue en-route, pressurisation problems, demotivated crew. Oh how safe you sound to those who don't work for you and certainly never want to passenger with you.
Talk about hiding behind anonymity!
Shuperstar Loadie, you still don't sound safe to me. Sabotaged a/c, appalling captains, not listening to crew reports and the consequent Helios incident, fuel leaks and you continue en-route, pressurisation problems, demotivated crew. Oh how safe you sound to those who don't work for you and certainly never want to passenger with you.
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So, Pulp Fiction, oh sorry X-Centric, have I got it right?
Now, if you know who X-Centric is...... (believe me, I do). Bit of a shame though. I was really enjoying watching him imagine that he had ANYONE fooled.
The thing that I find odd is the fact that you are trying to nail down just one disillusioned person from Jet2.com. (More than one sign-in slagging off jet2? must be the same person!) With a company this low it's hardly surprising that there are many people with an axe to grind with you.
Trip Switch why are you dragging me into the personal mud slinging with Pulp? Anything that I have had to say about Channex has been based on personal experience. I.e. that I found their management style garbage & that they are an amatuer, unsafe passenger operation. I have never singled you out in any example that I have posted. You need to go & fly for another company, a good one however you define that, & then you'll see just how low down the scale Jet2.com really are. Air Amoeba, a suggested new name for Jet2.
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Yes Mong, you're quite right! I am a poofter and have no balls.
I think Jet2 should count themselves lucky they aren't getting a Joey Deacon like you applying to them.
I think Jet2 should count themselves lucky they aren't getting a Joey Deacon like you applying to them.
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So how many hull losses have Chanex had then?
I can recall an Electra damaged beyond repair in a wheels up at Shannon, an overrun in Coventry and the very sad crash of the F27 in the Channel Islands where the crew were killed. There was also the mis loaded A300 in Shannon last year (not the sabotaged one during maintenance, that was discovered before take off, unlike the poor old crew who found out after landing!). There was also the Leeds runway beat up incident but that can’t really be counted as an accident, just a bit of good old hooliganism!
Anybody got a picture of that by the way??
I can recall an Electra damaged beyond repair in a wheels up at Shannon, an overrun in Coventry and the very sad crash of the F27 in the Channel Islands where the crew were killed. There was also the mis loaded A300 in Shannon last year (not the sabotaged one during maintenance, that was discovered before take off, unlike the poor old crew who found out after landing!). There was also the Leeds runway beat up incident but that can’t really be counted as an accident, just a bit of good old hooliganism!
Anybody got a picture of that by the way??
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Jetdriver, muppet baiting is a sport but I think you'll find my posts been pretty even on this thread. Seems it's OK to write down any old rubbish about any airline you've decided not to apply to!
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Sorry Nearly Man but turning a thread like this into, 'muppet baiting,' as you call it shows just how juvenile you are. 2engop asked what it was like on the 757 with Jet2 and generally about the company. The replies he's got back have been varied and mostly negative from those obviously in the know. I wouldn't base my decision to join or not join a company based solely on what is written here but it is pretty damning stuff non the less and does hold some sway when it is put together with the information in the public domain about their safety and low standards. E.g. press reports, AAIB reports, news items etc.
Nearly Man you are clearly demonstrating why your academic achievment is a mere three O levels by lowering the tone such as this. Do you work for Channel Express because according to some people they do take the dross that can't get a job anywhere else? If you don't you should apply, you would stand a very good chance.
Nearly Man you are clearly demonstrating why your academic achievment is a mere three O levels by lowering the tone such as this. Do you work for Channel Express because according to some people they do take the dross that can't get a job anywhere else? If you don't you should apply, you would stand a very good chance.
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Monde...
so then,
People who's in your words "academic achievment is a mere three O levels" you consider as Dross.
Have a look at any airline and I am sure you will find that not everyone has a degree.
Thats a poor attitude mate....
Lets face it, How difficult is it to get a degree, most people I know have one.
If there are non graduate pilots flying for airlines then I say well done to them, they still had to sit and pass the the same tests as those that hold a degree.
so then,
People who's in your words "academic achievment is a mere three O levels" you consider as Dross.
Have a look at any airline and I am sure you will find that not everyone has a degree.
Thats a poor attitude mate....
Lets face it, How difficult is it to get a degree, most people I know have one.
If there are non graduate pilots flying for airlines then I say well done to them, they still had to sit and pass the the same tests as those that hold a degree.
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Sub Rosa. The Electra was not Channex neither was the crew just working for Channex. Yes a loading error by a handling agent cost the chanel islands F27 before we had loadmasters. The A300 was discovered and rectified before the cargo door even shut. Lets talk about a Channex loadie chasing a Titan 737 down a taxiway at EMA coz Menzies loaded it back to front. Or emerald 748's flying around without restraint on loads. Oh and yes the F27 at CVT was pilot error.... like my title says im not a pilot and I dont make errors that endanger my collegues and friends in what I did as a loadie and what I do now. Oh and dont bother flying with us your not welcome.
Obviously a few have a gripe with Jet2.com but how many pax have we carried and how well are we doing, expanding and creating jobs????
Tell me..................
Obviously a few have a gripe with Jet2.com but how many pax have we carried and how well are we doing, expanding and creating jobs????
Tell me..................
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I am quite certain that the Electra at Shannon was N-registered and flown by an American crew so how you can consider this to be a Channex accident I cannot imagine.
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How was the A300 sabotaged and by whom?I used to work for this outfit on some serious crap called the herald.PM was an ******* then and employed the same kind of orifices as management.I shall do my best to avoid jet2 in the future.
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While the Mekon 'IS' energetic & knowledgeable (Also on occaision amusing & even charming!), unfortunately he can also be 'explosively' nasty,small minded,vindictive & is a bully. It is these traits that gave me my intense dislike of the man. I worked for this company for the greater part of a decade & a half before i left (of my own volition!).
Many of the senior management have grown up in this extremely 'unhealthy' leadership culture & have prospered by using the example of the 'dear leader'.
Many of the senior management have grown up in this extremely 'unhealthy' leadership culture & have prospered by using the example of the 'dear leader'.