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Originally Posted by Nearly Man
Yes Mong, you're quite right! I am a poofter and have no balls.
I think Jet2 should count themselves lucky they aren't getting a Joey Deacon like you applying to them.
I think Jet2 should count themselves lucky they aren't getting a Joey Deacon like you applying to them.
Ha! Forgotten all about Joey Deacon! An often mentioned name back in the day. I'm gonna start re-using it!
Sure there's one or two in my outfit I could use it on...
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rentaghost, I have some evidence to the contrary. But that is for another time. Interesting coincidence that you have personal knowledge of the real names of two anonymous posters here who have a certain outlook on life.
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I stand corrected. The Electra that almost landed wheels up, went around taking out several prop blades, streaming oil losing an engine or two did land safely.
It was not technically being operated by Channel, the crew were actually being employed to train Chanex pilots when the Electra was being introduced into service.
Hope that puts the record straight!
It was not technically being operated by Channel, the crew were actually being employed to train Chanex pilots when the Electra was being introduced into service.
Hope that puts the record straight!
Originally Posted by Sub rosa
I stand corrected. The Electra that almost landed wheels up, went around taking out several prop blades, streaming oil losing an engine or two did land safely.
It was not technically being operated by Channel, the crew were actually being employed to train Chanex pilots when the Electra was being introduced into service.
Hope that puts the record straight!
It was not technically being operated by Channel, the crew were actually being employed to train Chanex pilots when the Electra was being introduced into service.
Hope that puts the record straight!
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What an incredible thread.
It starts out as a genuine enquiry regarding the 757 operation and look where it’s gone.
As a casual, but highly entertained observer I cannot remember reading a more hilarious thread. Seems we have a training department fighting the crews, the training department fighting the trainers, the crews fighting each other and the ex crews fighting almost everyone else.
The flight deck atmosphere on these Jet2 aircraft must be a sight worth seeing. “Who are you, Noddy, no Trip switch. Shut you pulp fiction ******* etc,etc…..” I can just imagine it now!!!!
Absolutely brilliant lads, enjoy your operation while it lasts, it certainly has to be unique.
Long may this thread last!
It starts out as a genuine enquiry regarding the 757 operation and look where it’s gone.
As a casual, but highly entertained observer I cannot remember reading a more hilarious thread. Seems we have a training department fighting the crews, the training department fighting the trainers, the crews fighting each other and the ex crews fighting almost everyone else.
The flight deck atmosphere on these Jet2 aircraft must be a sight worth seeing. “Who are you, Noddy, no Trip switch. Shut you pulp fiction ******* etc,etc…..” I can just imagine it now!!!!
Absolutely brilliant lads, enjoy your operation while it lasts, it certainly has to be unique.
Long may this thread last!
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Entertaining maybe ...
Astounding how childish our profession can get ...
Disappointing that 2engop has had his thread hijacked by the same few that feel they must continue to anonymously attack Jet2, and on occasion their former colleagues on a public forum. Funny that they seemed so friendly to them when face to face in the crew room
Surely time to move on and be happy, as I am sure you are
Yacht Man - On the line there are a great bunch of crews here that are a pleasure to work with. I have yet to see a post from a current employee that supports the negative views. Most don't bother posting as it's just asking to be attacked by the same individuals that make a habit of it, as I probably will be for this post.
Astounding how childish our profession can get ...
Disappointing that 2engop has had his thread hijacked by the same few that feel they must continue to anonymously attack Jet2, and on occasion their former colleagues on a public forum. Funny that they seemed so friendly to them when face to face in the crew room
Surely time to move on and be happy, as I am sure you are
Yacht Man - On the line there are a great bunch of crews here that are a pleasure to work with. I have yet to see a post from a current employee that supports the negative views. Most don't bother posting as it's just asking to be attacked by the same individuals that make a habit of it, as I probably will be for this post.
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Except for me of course! I’m still here.
Not because I’m Cr#p or bonded or can't pass an assessment with any other airline I hope! I’m just to old to be bothered with yet another company’s course. I’ve seen the best of this industry and those days are definitely gone. I am a little sad that I will see out my career out in a shambolic, under funded, badly managed, under maintained here today gone tomorrow outfit.
I also don’t really think you can tell who people are on these threads. Its so easy to manipulate and tailor posts so as to subtly pretend to be another. If I said I hadn’t been to the gym for twenty years, didn’t have a telly and hate helicopter instructors you might automatically think you knew who I was! You would be wrong. I will not out anybody because it would be too easy to get it wrong.
Old Sufi saying I learnt many many years ago, if you seek Him you shall never find Him. If you do not seek Him, He will never reveal Himself to you.
Just hope I get to top up the pension before old Jet2 becomes jet gone!!
Ps… anyone seen Frank?
Not because I’m Cr#p or bonded or can't pass an assessment with any other airline I hope! I’m just to old to be bothered with yet another company’s course. I’ve seen the best of this industry and those days are definitely gone. I am a little sad that I will see out my career out in a shambolic, under funded, badly managed, under maintained here today gone tomorrow outfit.
I also don’t really think you can tell who people are on these threads. Its so easy to manipulate and tailor posts so as to subtly pretend to be another. If I said I hadn’t been to the gym for twenty years, didn’t have a telly and hate helicopter instructors you might automatically think you knew who I was! You would be wrong. I will not out anybody because it would be too easy to get it wrong.
Old Sufi saying I learnt many many years ago, if you seek Him you shall never find Him. If you do not seek Him, He will never reveal Himself to you.
Just hope I get to top up the pension before old Jet2 becomes jet gone!!
Ps… anyone seen Frank?
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OK ... I stand corrected .... except you Sub Rosa.
There are a few that haven't been to the gym for 20 years but they all have telly's! Your cover is safe
Enough fun here .... I'm off to the pub.
There are a few that haven't been to the gym for 20 years but they all have telly's! Your cover is safe
Enough fun here .... I'm off to the pub.
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I listened to a Jet2 757 coming out of tfs yesterday.The pnf twice asked for the santa maria hf freqs despite being told by the atco to standby.It is all in the aerad supps or on the jepp Natlantic chart if you care to look.By the way he gave you the wrong freqs but you probably worked that out.
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Thanks rentaghost, I wasn't going to bother to issue any denials of being the one & the same X-Centric because it wasn't even worth it & I thought that my denial would add to the flames. Let them have their fun.
With regards to Trip Switch, I find it very worrying for Jet2 but, alas, par for the course that he can issue the following post:
He says he "knows" who Pulp Fiction & X-Centric are & yet he has jumped to the wrong conclusion. I hope that his command decisions are based on better analysis. Then again he would have to put down his sudoku puzzle & focus on the job in hand a bit more.
It seems to me that Jet2 affectionados cannot believe that more than one person can dislike their company.
2engop, here's why you shouldn't join Channex.
Low standards. Too many inexperienced captains. Poor conditions. People promoted on suck-up-ability rather than ability. Witholding of references when you leave them. Threats. Management making promises of base changes that they will never honour. The strangest SOPs in the industry. A total lack of regard for you as a person.
In short, go elsewhere if you have a choice.
Rentaghost, check your pm.
With regards to Trip Switch, I find it very worrying for Jet2 but, alas, par for the course that he can issue the following post:
As regards Pulp Fiction - Ryanair Pilot shortage hits crisis Point? Page 2 is very funny. The posting at the top of page 3 might be of particular interest (last line - although most had worked it out a long time ago). Now, if you know who X-Centric is...... (believe me, I do). Bit of a shame though. I was really enjoying watching him imagine that he had ANYONE fooled.
He says he "knows" who Pulp Fiction & X-Centric are & yet he has jumped to the wrong conclusion. I hope that his command decisions are based on better analysis. Then again he would have to put down his sudoku puzzle & focus on the job in hand a bit more.
rentaghost, I have some evidence to the contrary. But that is for another time. Interesting coincidence that you have personal knowledge of the real names of two anonymous posters here who have a certain outlook on life.
2engop, here's why you shouldn't join Channex.
Low standards. Too many inexperienced captains. Poor conditions. People promoted on suck-up-ability rather than ability. Witholding of references when you leave them. Threats. Management making promises of base changes that they will never honour. The strangest SOPs in the industry. A total lack of regard for you as a person.
In short, go elsewhere if you have a choice.
Rentaghost, check your pm.
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Yacht Man,
You say: "The flight deck atmosphere on these Jet2 aircraft must be a sight worth seeing."
In fact, after many years of flying including "reputable operators", I've found Jet2 to have the best on-board atmosphere yet - absolutely zero us-and-them with the cabin crew, pilots working well together to optimise safety and follow SOPs, a no-blame culture and no more than reasonable pressure from management.
Also, there is virtually no in-flight moaning and whingeing - just how many "reputable operators" can claim that?
Let's settle this APU thing once and for all. Yes we do have guidelines to minimise APU usage, but the crew have total discretion to use the APU for heating or cooling whenever they feel it appropriate. If ever you get on a Jet2 aircraft that's too hot or too cold, blame the crew and not Company policy.
You say: "The flight deck atmosphere on these Jet2 aircraft must be a sight worth seeing."
In fact, after many years of flying including "reputable operators", I've found Jet2 to have the best on-board atmosphere yet - absolutely zero us-and-them with the cabin crew, pilots working well together to optimise safety and follow SOPs, a no-blame culture and no more than reasonable pressure from management.
Also, there is virtually no in-flight moaning and whingeing - just how many "reputable operators" can claim that?
Let's settle this APU thing once and for all. Yes we do have guidelines to minimise APU usage, but the crew have total discretion to use the APU for heating or cooling whenever they feel it appropriate. If ever you get on a Jet2 aircraft that's too hot or too cold, blame the crew and not Company policy.
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Firstly, I would like to thank you for your very public 'outing' of who I am in your first post. You obviously feel that I deserve it and that you should be the person to do so. Forgive me if I do not, but that's all a bit academic now.
Having been outed, I feel it only fair to put things as I see them.
Pulp Fiction
May I begin by reminding you of his post of 30th December 2005:
I had not picked a fight with anyone. Up until this point, I had found his vitriolic outpourings highly offensive, but hey, that was his opinion (and woe betide anyone who should dare disagree with him or suggest that he might be being a little unfair). Anyway, I was quite content to let him get on with it and then all of a sudden, he launches into this unprovoked, totally unfair and really rather rude personal attack on me. I was never even in this debate, had posted nothing, and yet found myself being vilified and besmirched in a public forum. Is it any wonder that I may have been a little offended? And the insults continued. It is curious that, even now, he questions my capabilities to operate effectively as a captain, and yet has displayed certain characteristics that I find deeply concerning. None that I would expect of "a very good captain of some repute".
As to whether or not he is the same person as X-Centric, that is for others to make up their own minds, by simply comparing posts both here and on the "Honest and Uncensored...." thread. If they are different people and I were X-Centric, I would consider suing for breach of copyright or plagiarism. Example:
Posted by X-Centric 31st Aug 2005:
Posted by Pulp Fiction 9th Jan 2006:
This is just one example. Even without being Sherlock Holmes, notice any rather bizarre similarities? As I have said, it is for others to make up their own minds. That so many have come to the same conclusion should be ringing some bells. Am I stupid? Maybe. However, as always, I am prepared to accept that I may be wrong.
X-Centric
I do indeed know who X-Centric is, as he indeed knows I am (as does everybody else now. Again, thankyou). It was his choice to reveal his pprune identity to me. You may notice that I have never posted anything that would even remotely identify him (whether or not I think he and Pulp Fiction are one and the same), and nor will I. Ever. A common respect not shown to all, it would seem. I may not agree with the things he says, but you may also notice that on this thread, nor have I replied to any of his posts. Again, everybody is entitled to their opinions. But then again 'X-Centric' didn't feel the need to launch into unprovoked, personal attacks. Certainly not on me anyway.
I would like to clarify, I am not picking a fight with you, and I apologise if you think I have been or am being unfair. It is very noble that you have leapt to Pulp's defence, however, looking back objectively over his posts, are you really that surprised that anyone should have felt offended by him?
With kindest regards
Trips
p.s. I have absolutely no doubt that I shall now be insulted, mocked and generally shot down in flames. So be it. I shall not bother you any more.
Firstly, I would like to thank you for your very public 'outing' of who I am in your first post. You obviously feel that I deserve it and that you should be the person to do so. Forgive me if I do not, but that's all a bit academic now.
Having been outed, I feel it only fair to put things as I see them.
Pulp Fiction
May I begin by reminding you of his post of 30th December 2005:
Here's a tip for anyone wanting to get on up the ladder with Channex: camp in Unilever's back garden. Then you too can gain fast track promotion, sit in the left hand seat & 'play' at Sudoku for your living.
As to whether or not he is the same person as X-Centric, that is for others to make up their own minds, by simply comparing posts both here and on the "Honest and Uncensored...." thread. If they are different people and I were X-Centric, I would consider suing for breach of copyright or plagiarism. Example:
Posted by X-Centric 31st Aug 2005:
How about three of our very good FOs warning the company that one of the MAN based contract Captains was a dangerous operator & something needed to be done? (Full credit here must go to a training captain who took the problem seriously & tried to deal with the situation only to be basically humiliated & over ridden in his decision making by the management.) They moved this guy to LBA, as we all know a far more technical airfield, & what happened? On his first day the FO refused to fly with him ever again & on his second day he nearly went off the end of the runway. Only then did Channex dismiss him. He nearly had to crash the bloody thing before they would take any action!
As an airline you were warned about the dangerous flying of a German contract Captain by at least three First Officers at MAN. Again, a very worthy Captain, who has since left Channex (hey, what a surprise) tried to do something about the situation but was humiliated & over ruled by R.B. They moved the rogue skipper to LBA & what happened? First day the F/O refuses to fly with him again because the Captain is so p!ss poor, second day he nearly goes off the end of the runway. Only then do Channex take action!
X-Centric
I do indeed know who X-Centric is, as he indeed knows I am (as does everybody else now. Again, thankyou). It was his choice to reveal his pprune identity to me. You may notice that I have never posted anything that would even remotely identify him (whether or not I think he and Pulp Fiction are one and the same), and nor will I. Ever. A common respect not shown to all, it would seem. I may not agree with the things he says, but you may also notice that on this thread, nor have I replied to any of his posts. Again, everybody is entitled to their opinions. But then again 'X-Centric' didn't feel the need to launch into unprovoked, personal attacks. Certainly not on me anyway.
I would like to clarify, I am not picking a fight with you, and I apologise if you think I have been or am being unfair. It is very noble that you have leapt to Pulp's defence, however, looking back objectively over his posts, are you really that surprised that anyone should have felt offended by him?
With kindest regards
Trips
p.s. I have absolutely no doubt that I shall now be insulted, mocked and generally shot down in flames. So be it. I shall not bother you any more.
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Cornwallis,
Haven't you ever asked Miami VHF for New York's HF frequencies to save yourself the hassle of wading through your best guesses and getting no answer? The list may well be published, but it's much easier if you know which freqs they are actually using that day. Canaries/Santa Maria is no different.
bat.man,
I don't think that Jet2's B737's are doing Tango routes yet, so it was probably at B757 - in which case any lack of flight deck paperwork is down to Titan, the AOC holder as at 18th January.
Haven't you ever asked Miami VHF for New York's HF frequencies to save yourself the hassle of wading through your best guesses and getting no answer? The list may well be published, but it's much easier if you know which freqs they are actually using that day. Canaries/Santa Maria is no different.
bat.man,
I don't think that Jet2's B737's are doing Tango routes yet, so it was probably at B757 - in which case any lack of flight deck paperwork is down to Titan, the AOC holder as at 18th January.
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No, no pilothouse.
This thread is all about kicking Jet2, regardless of the facts.
And the fact that is might not be Jet2's library on board shouldn't be allowed to spoil the fun.
The fact is that it might not have been their pilots either, but who cares, chill out and join the fun!
This thread is all about kicking Jet2, regardless of the facts.
And the fact that is might not be Jet2's library on board shouldn't be allowed to spoil the fun.
The fact is that it might not have been their pilots either, but who cares, chill out and join the fun!
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Never asked miami as i go up and down there so often i know them.It was a 757 on a tang(16).It doesnt take much effort to work out what freq to use.The crew were given the wrong ones by the atco anyway!