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747Fanatic:
my dad is a 747 FE and not me. he is 60 and retired from air-india. i was just wanting to get some information for him as he is still interested in flying for a couple more years.
my dad is a 747 FE and not me. he is 60 and retired from air-india. i was just wanting to get some information for him as he is still interested in flying for a couple more years.
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Moy Dear lovely chaaps!
Dis oy hear me name crappin up again in dis tread? Do some O ya tink oim acting d Maggott? Well as it'll nat be d forst toime Oi've had to put me toil aside an RE assure you guys dat its aaalways you I'm tinkin of!
Ok, catch Yerselves on wit me goys - We know dat its over 700 of you lovely Floightdeck guys I'm having to pay now. Watchin them wages cheques leave breaks me heart so it does. D' new fiscal policy Is: Pay one in ten as time-served men, the rest as Bengal Lancers. (D old rhoyming slang there; 'King Chancers!)
Now caaalm y'sels lads, Oim only d messenger an I'm workin on yer salaries, workin reel herd!
Some say I do for pilot contracts what yer maan Bill Gates did for computers! Oy say B'Jes, Mary +Joseph OI'll be der witchya Boys, there at yr side in Jeddah offerin me moral support to d weak among ya. Now bein d good Catolic sort an aal, Oi may be caaled away to deal with some needy Dublin Nuns around Hajj time in which case...
OI'LL BE TINKIN OF YA AALL, WITCHA IN SPIRIT, TINKIN OF YA LAADS !!!
Dis oy hear me name crappin up again in dis tread? Do some O ya tink oim acting d Maggott? Well as it'll nat be d forst toime Oi've had to put me toil aside an RE assure you guys dat its aaalways you I'm tinkin of!
Ok, catch Yerselves on wit me goys - We know dat its over 700 of you lovely Floightdeck guys I'm having to pay now. Watchin them wages cheques leave breaks me heart so it does. D' new fiscal policy Is: Pay one in ten as time-served men, the rest as Bengal Lancers. (D old rhoyming slang there; 'King Chancers!)
Now caaalm y'sels lads, Oim only d messenger an I'm workin on yer salaries, workin reel herd!
Some say I do for pilot contracts what yer maan Bill Gates did for computers! Oy say B'Jes, Mary +Joseph OI'll be der witchya Boys, there at yr side in Jeddah offerin me moral support to d weak among ya. Now bein d good Catolic sort an aal, Oi may be caaled away to deal with some needy Dublin Nuns around Hajj time in which case...
OI'LL BE TINKIN OF YA AALL, WITCHA IN SPIRIT, TINKIN OF YA LAADS !!!
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Cabin Crew
Hey guys VERY interesting reading! As bad as it all sounds I remain interested in AAI for a Cabin Crew contract for the Hajj.
I know this is a very different question for the discussion at hand, and I did post it in the "Nordic Forum", but is anyone have knowledge of contracts that will going through this year for Hajj?
From the second hand (most likely sixth) news I have received there is less flying and thus less contracts available. If anyone could offer some information it would be appreciated.
Thanks guys,
Regards,
M.
I know this is a very different question for the discussion at hand, and I did post it in the "Nordic Forum", but is anyone have knowledge of contracts that will going through this year for Hajj?
From the second hand (most likely sixth) news I have received there is less flying and thus less contracts available. If anyone could offer some information it would be appreciated.
Thanks guys,
Regards,
M.
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hi,
could someone please explain to me how the base bid system at air atlanta works. do i get a choice or is it randomly assigned.
secondly, is the salary provided tax free at all bases or is the initial $5250 taxed as per the local tax brackets.
thirdly, how is the accomodation provided by AAI. are teh hotels/apartments good and clean or are they really crappy ones.
i would appreciate if someone could help me out with these queries as i would like to make a decision asap about the contract being offered to me.
thanks
could someone please explain to me how the base bid system at air atlanta works. do i get a choice or is it randomly assigned.
secondly, is the salary provided tax free at all bases or is the initial $5250 taxed as per the local tax brackets.
thirdly, how is the accomodation provided by AAI. are teh hotels/apartments good and clean or are they really crappy ones.
i would appreciate if someone could help me out with these queries as i would like to make a decision asap about the contract being offered to me.
thanks
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They will move your base randomly, there is no "senority", hotels range from 5* to 1*. If another airline is paying it will be good, if it is AAI's bill the go for cheap.
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Mav,
If you are currently employed, stay where you are. If you aren't then anything will work, right? Who cares about bases and seniority when you aren't working. But like I said if you are employed elsewhere then stay there, this is not the place for you.
If you are currently employed, stay where you are. If you aren't then anything will work, right? Who cares about bases and seniority when you aren't working. But like I said if you are employed elsewhere then stay there, this is not the place for you.
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In my opinion, one of biggest problems with AAI is the fact that most of the middle level management positions are all filled by X-Flight Attendants! They were not put there for their management skills, training or back ground. They were put there because they did a good job as a F/A.
I remember four and five years ago when I flew the hajj for AAI and was staying in the Rose Village in JED the person that assigned who stayed in what villa was a X-F/A. Pilots were assigned to the worst villa's. I remember one case where 5 pilots were staying in a 5 bedroom villa while some F/A's were staying in a 2 bedroom "love nest" with his or her girlfriend! The same was true for MAD. The nicer hotel rooms went to F/A's.
Who ever heard of an airline that was SUCCESSFULLY run by F/A's?
classic
I remember four and five years ago when I flew the hajj for AAI and was staying in the Rose Village in JED the person that assigned who stayed in what villa was a X-F/A. Pilots were assigned to the worst villa's. I remember one case where 5 pilots were staying in a 5 bedroom villa while some F/A's were staying in a 2 bedroom "love nest" with his or her girlfriend! The same was true for MAD. The nicer hotel rooms went to F/A's.
Who ever heard of an airline that was SUCCESSFULLY run by F/A's?
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Classic,what rooms are You talking about in MAD? I must have stayed in about 20 different ones and they were all the same(Bad)However I totally agree with You about rose village,I was there in 1995 and the villas the maint.guys were given were awful.
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Guys,
This sub-forum is not designated to be a place where we could discuss abourt what hapened 3 or 5 years ago during the Hadj.
Are we going for it yes or no !
Thats the only question we should ask !
This sub-forum is not designated to be a place where we could discuss abourt what hapened 3 or 5 years ago during the Hadj.
Are we going for it yes or no !
Thats the only question we should ask !
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abarth,
"Are we going for it yes or no!" WHAT???
I think the history of a company is very relevant. A dog can't change it's spots over night. 3-5 years IS relevant. It is not just 3-5 years. They have a long history of cockpit crew mistreatment.
matkat,
You are correct, there were not many nice rooms in MAD. You can bet your butt that the nice ones went to F/A's!
toldyaso,
It is no joke. If you do do time with AAI ask some of the middle managers what they did when they first started at AAI. See for yourself.
"Are we going for it yes or no!" WHAT???
I think the history of a company is very relevant. A dog can't change it's spots over night. 3-5 years IS relevant. It is not just 3-5 years. They have a long history of cockpit crew mistreatment.
matkat,
You are correct, there were not many nice rooms in MAD. You can bet your butt that the nice ones went to F/A's!
toldyaso,
It is no joke. If you do do time with AAI ask some of the middle managers what they did when they first started at AAI. See for yourself.
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Hajj starts in about 6 weeks, is AAI flying it this year? If so, which Hajj are they actually operating for whom?
Never worked for AAI, but know this to be true.
Mutt.
It is no joke. If you do do time with AAI ask some of the middle managers what they did when they first started at AAI.
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747CLASSIC,
I was kind of hoping you were trying to be funny about F/A's. I am now starting to doubt that.
Being one of them I am interested - what exactly is your point? Are you saying that if you work as a F/A you are not capable of being a Manager? I know Managers in a few airlines (and not only airlines for that matter) who started as being Cabin Crew and later on made wonderful Managers.
Do you have something against us - if so, what is it?
I do not like fighting and please forgive me if I've taken this the wrong way. I am just surprised at your attitude towards your crew members.
I was kind of hoping you were trying to be funny about F/A's. I am now starting to doubt that.
Being one of them I am interested - what exactly is your point? Are you saying that if you work as a F/A you are not capable of being a Manager? I know Managers in a few airlines (and not only airlines for that matter) who started as being Cabin Crew and later on made wonderful Managers.
Do you have something against us - if so, what is it?
I do not like fighting and please forgive me if I've taken this the wrong way. I am just surprised at your attitude towards your crew members.
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sweety,
Nothing personal, I've had some very enjoyable times with F/A's.
I've flown pax and I've flown boxes. I perfer boxes.
I'm from the old school where the Capt. was always in charge.
AAI used to be run by the owner's wife (X-F/A) and the people she promoted were the people she knew (F/A's). It had nothing to do with management skills or training.
"And that's all I have to say about that"!
classic
Nothing personal, I've had some very enjoyable times with F/A's.
I've flown pax and I've flown boxes. I perfer boxes.
I'm from the old school where the Capt. was always in charge.
AAI used to be run by the owner's wife (X-F/A) and the people she promoted were the people she knew (F/A's). It had nothing to do with management skills or training.
"And that's all I have to say about that"!
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Now i'm not an AAI cheerleader, or an idiot but I can spot a con a mile off.
I reckon everyone that is going to stay in the KSA for the Hajj, is going to be ok. Don't think there is any reason whatsoever for any type of industrial action.
Had a word with Jerry the other day and he really filled me with confidence, especially on the security front, among other things. On the topic of accommodation, he was straight down the line and honest. (Well, as honest as he could be.) He mentioned there was the odd rumour circulating, that some of the rooms were not quite 5 stars. On a brighter note, he said he would” lead by example” so nothing for anyone to worry about.
His post on this thread proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, this Saudi thing is a storm in a teacup.
I reckon everyone that is going to stay in the KSA for the Hajj, is going to be ok. Don't think there is any reason whatsoever for any type of industrial action.
Had a word with Jerry the other day and he really filled me with confidence, especially on the security front, among other things. On the topic of accommodation, he was straight down the line and honest. (Well, as honest as he could be.) He mentioned there was the odd rumour circulating, that some of the rooms were not quite 5 stars. On a brighter note, he said he would” lead by example” so nothing for anyone to worry about.
His post on this thread proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, this Saudi thing is a storm in a teacup.
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OK, 747CLASSIC, I know what you mean. It is just the way you put it,- like ALL F/A's are useless or something? I know some of us are a bit dizy, but there are quite a few who in some cases have more sense than some of the new F/O's (dare I say CPT's?
too?).
Now, I'll not be interfering here any more, I mean I have nothing to say about the original question here in this topic anyway! I was just browsing through (I've got loads of time on my hands now) and noticed those comments about F/A's...
too?).Now, I'll not be interfering here any more, I mean I have nothing to say about the original question here in this topic anyway! I was just browsing through (I've got loads of time on my hands now) and noticed those comments about F/A's...
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I agree we have some usless FA's, BUT
Asta in europe is awesome at her job. I don't know if Baddi was ever a FA but he is fantastic. 2 Thumbs up to Len aswell.
FRA and DXB ops are balls.
Asta in europe is awesome at her job. I don't know if Baddi was ever a FA but he is fantastic. 2 Thumbs up to Len aswell.
FRA and DXB ops are balls.
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toldyaso,
AAI refused some Hajj contracts due to security concerns, what has changed their mind? I certainly havent seen any enhancement in the local security since that time.
Mutt.
AAI refused some Hajj contracts due to security concerns, what has changed their mind? I certainly havent seen any enhancement in the local security since that time.
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I read the previous post from toldyaso with a bit of concern.
I hope what he was told was not from a reliable person that has any knowledge of the situation here in Jed.
We are still in a compound with 50 cal guns humvees and sand bags.
The US government is still putting out for us to leave.
Last message dated Oct 27 2004.
The French company working here refuses to come back and complete their work due to the risk and the last shooting.
The only change is no expat has been shot to my knowledge in the past 2 weeks.
The calm before the storm, who knows?
Storm in a teacup?
Who ever is putting out this information is obviously, number one, not here, number two does not care.
I think who ever put out this information went to way too many peace demonstrations back in the 60's and did far too many drugs, Cheap ones.
If you come to Jed you have to be extremely careful.
Read the latest advisories, If the hotel or compound does not comply, ask to be moved elsewhere or leave.
Also check your life insurance policy, mine is not valid anymore from the USA if something happens here, all companies have different terms and conditions, so check with them.
If their were other decent jobs available I would be gone untill the security and political climate improved if ever.
With the recent news from the fanatics on TV, its not a time to be relaxed.
I hope what he was told was not from a reliable person that has any knowledge of the situation here in Jed.
We are still in a compound with 50 cal guns humvees and sand bags.
The US government is still putting out for us to leave.
Last message dated Oct 27 2004.
The French company working here refuses to come back and complete their work due to the risk and the last shooting.
The only change is no expat has been shot to my knowledge in the past 2 weeks.
The calm before the storm, who knows?
Storm in a teacup?
Who ever is putting out this information is obviously, number one, not here, number two does not care.
I think who ever put out this information went to way too many peace demonstrations back in the 60's and did far too many drugs, Cheap ones.
If you come to Jed you have to be extremely careful.
Read the latest advisories, If the hotel or compound does not comply, ask to be moved elsewhere or leave.
Also check your life insurance policy, mine is not valid anymore from the USA if something happens here, all companies have different terms and conditions, so check with them.
If their were other decent jobs available I would be gone untill the security and political climate improved if ever.
With the recent news from the fanatics on TV, its not a time to be relaxed.
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