Air Atlanta Icelandic
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: ANYWHERE THE BEER IS COLD
Paladini,
You are absolutely correct! I was trying not to go there. As difficult as it for me some times, I was trying to stay politically correct.
It would be good to see Mark have to go back out and fly the line. That way he could see what he has done!
They must have a secret handshake that was used during the interview.
classic
You are absolutely correct! I was trying not to go there. As difficult as it for me some times, I was trying to stay politically correct.
It would be good to see Mark have to go back out and fly the line. That way he could see what he has done!
They must have a secret handshake that was used during the interview.
classic
Joined: Apr 2004
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From: United States
hi,
could someone please give me all the info there is about the dubai base for AAI. my dad is doing his training rite now at gatwick and has put dubai as his first choice base. i would appreciate if someone could give me info regarding the accomodation and the flying out of dubai and anything else that is important.
thanks
mav1980
could someone please give me all the info there is about the dubai base for AAI. my dad is doing his training rite now at gatwick and has put dubai as his first choice base. i would appreciate if someone could give me info regarding the accomodation and the flying out of dubai and anything else that is important.
thanks
mav1980
Joined: Jun 2001
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From: Airborne
Can anyone give me please some information about T&C, Rosters, Night-Stops, Routes, lifestyle and so on ..... (as much as possible really) about Air Atlanta Europe (B767)??
Any info is highly appreciated! Thanks a lot.
Any info is highly appreciated! Thanks a lot.
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From: USA
Yes Mutt have to agree once again.
They backed out due to security concrerns but yet that still operate into KSA.
I heard from a few Captains that they don't have the crews and used this as an excuse, stating their union would not allow it.
Whay union, the FFF, the contract pilots have no say what so ever, which is the majority of the company?
How on one hand can you say they will back out on the security clause and then still operate in here with layovers with Gauruda and Maylasian, with a a layover in a less secure envioroment?
This place is not safe.
Safe for one contract and not another?
They backed out due to security concrerns but yet that still operate into KSA.
I heard from a few Captains that they don't have the crews and used this as an excuse, stating their union would not allow it.
Whay union, the FFF, the contract pilots have no say what so ever, which is the majority of the company?
How on one hand can you say they will back out on the security clause and then still operate in here with layovers with Gauruda and Maylasian, with a a layover in a less secure envioroment?
This place is not safe.
Safe for one contract and not another?
Last edited by Earl; 9th December 2004 at 18:39.
Joined: Feb 2004
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From: Europe
KSA
It's a different cup of tea to have 500 people based in KSA than have a few fly in and out...
Reasons for the company declining or accepting contracts has nothing to do with me nor am I in a position to comment on the matter.
However, I would think that laws of economics have probably with the security and logistical considerations played a big part when deciding what contract to go for. You guys should know this, but guess stirring the pot is more fun, eh?
AD
Reasons for the company declining or accepting contracts has nothing to do with me nor am I in a position to comment on the matter.
However, I would think that laws of economics have probably with the security and logistical considerations played a big part when deciding what contract to go for. You guys should know this, but guess stirring the pot is more fun, eh?
AD
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From: USA
Not stirring the pot here AA Driver.
I understand that they were offered secure housing, on Saudia City gaurded by saudi national gaurd, and backed out of a signed contract due to a security clause. stating their pilots union refused to come to KSA.
The Saudi National Gaurd leaves a lot to be desired, especially after recent events, but is much safer than any hotel here in jeddah.
This compound is even reviewed by others for security to include the US and British Consulate.
Hotels are not and are even advised against staying to include the rental car agencies.
Perhaps they made the decision as you stated based on fewer personel at risk
This was weeks ago.
Maybe they seen the writing on the walls and sensed this was going to get worse.
Cant blame them for that.
I am sure that after the attacks on the US consulate here they made a wise decision.
I understand that they were offered secure housing, on Saudia City gaurded by saudi national gaurd, and backed out of a signed contract due to a security clause. stating their pilots union refused to come to KSA.
The Saudi National Gaurd leaves a lot to be desired, especially after recent events, but is much safer than any hotel here in jeddah.
This compound is even reviewed by others for security to include the US and British Consulate.
Hotels are not and are even advised against staying to include the rental car agencies.
Perhaps they made the decision as you stated based on fewer personel at risk
This was weeks ago.
Maybe they seen the writing on the walls and sensed this was going to get worse.
Cant blame them for that.
I am sure that after the attacks on the US consulate here they made a wise decision.
Last edited by Earl; 9th December 2004 at 18:37.
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From: Airborne
Can anyone give me please some information about T&C, Rosters, Night-Stops, Routes, lifestyle, atmosphere in the Company and so on ..... ,as much as possible really, about Air Atlanta Europe (B767 operation out of Gatwick or Manchester)?? Basically, anything that might be of interest to a pilot who has to make up his mind weather he wants to work for AAE or not! :-)
(I know it's a bit off the topic right now but the original thread was called "Air Atlanta Icelandic", so I figured AAE would fit here too!)
Any info is highly appreciated! Thanks a lot to all that are willing to answer (yes, I do know that this might have been discussed before, but a search did not bring up the desired results and as I understand things are changing fast with AAE any way)!
(I know it's a bit off the topic right now but the original thread was called "Air Atlanta Icelandic", so I figured AAE would fit here too!)
Any info is highly appreciated! Thanks a lot to all that are willing to answer (yes, I do know that this might have been discussed before, but a search did not bring up the desired results and as I understand things are changing fast with AAE any way)!
Joined: Sep 2002
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From: up north
RE: Abarth's original post
An AAI sub-forum would be a great vehicle for communication between drivers. PPrune-Towers says 100 bucks per year! I'll gladly pay it, as I know it will be repaid in beer. Sooo.. Let's get the ball rolling. As an FNG, it's a great way to procure info on this rapidly expanding operation.
Joined: Jan 2005
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From: OVER THERE
F.F.F. SALARY INCREASE
Just to add up insults in the way that A.A.I. treat the contract pilot`s .................... The F.F.F. pilots have received an increase of 26% in salary !! It appears that this increase was made effective at the beginning of the month
And just to make this all the more of an insult ........the mechanics have also received an increase !!
The time has come , that a forum for us contract pilot`s must get off the ground .............. we have to do something.
This revalation , was announced in Dubai some days ago !!
And just to make this all the more of an insult ........the mechanics have also received an increase !!
The time has come , that a forum for us contract pilot`s must get off the ground .............. we have to do something.
This revalation , was announced in Dubai some days ago !!
Last edited by BULK CARGO; 28th January 2005 at 19:29.