Looking for a Private Jet PJ-GECA
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: In Space
Posts: 683
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
No they wouldnt. But he told me in conversation that he flew for American Airlines on the B757/767 fleet. He would need to hold an FAA licence then.
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Siargao Island
Posts: 1,043
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
In my past I worked with a lot of ex military aircrew, I am ex military myself so I 'get it', not one of those would identify themselves as 'Wing Commander' or 'Group Captain' or whatever, they would identify themselves by name or as Captain or whatever.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: In Space
Posts: 683
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Or an ICAO licence and he would also need the rights to live and work in USA, ie married to an American national ... Lt Cnl is a senior military rank, perhaps 15 years service to attain, then he's flown commercially for AA, so why doesn't he refer to himself as Capt. rather than Lt. Cnl.
In my past I worked with a lot of ex military aircrew, I am ex military myself so I 'get it', not one of those would identify themselves as 'Wing Commander' or 'Group Captain' or whatever, they would identify themselves by name or as Captain or whatever.
In my past I worked with a lot of ex military aircrew, I am ex military myself so I 'get it', not one of those would identify themselves as 'Wing Commander' or 'Group Captain' or whatever, they would identify themselves by name or as Captain or whatever.
He would need an FAA ATP part121 license for AA.
He just said on a forum that hes wiating his his Hawker 4000 to arrive in KDAL. Its parked at Oklahoma due to storms.
Again, He claims its not on FR24 due to security reasons for the clients.
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Siargao Island
Posts: 1,043
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not forgetting he worked with NASA.
He would need an FAA ATP part121 license for AA.
He just said on a forum that hes wiating his his Hawker 4000 to arrive in KDAL. Its parked at Oklahoma due to storms.
Again, He claims its not on FR24 due to security reasons for the clients.
He would need an FAA ATP part121 license for AA.
He just said on a forum that hes wiating his his Hawker 4000 to arrive in KDAL. Its parked at Oklahoma due to storms.
Again, He claims its not on FR24 due to security reasons for the clients.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: In Space
Posts: 683
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
can I ask why you need to know about this guy?
Mr Engle has a profile on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/wil-engle-49b2421a5/) in which he asserts that he is CEO of "Global Executive Charters NV", which is presumably where the fictitious registration PJ-GEC comes from. His profile, unusually for LinkedIn, makes no reference to his career history.
Of course a profile on LinkedIn doesn't constitute proof that an organisation or individual actually exists.
Of course a profile on LinkedIn doesn't constitute proof that an organisation or individual actually exists.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: In Space
Posts: 683
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hes on a forum chatting away giving war stories. Stories that I think are exaggerated or just not true. Im not the only one to pass comment on it.
Same reaction to ‘Stolen Valour’.
But what I dont like is that student pilots are loving it but dont realise this guy could be a Mitty.
The industry already has enough snakes.
Same reaction to ‘Stolen Valour’.
But what I dont like is that student pilots are loving it but dont realise this guy could be a Mitty.
The industry already has enough snakes.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: In Space
Posts: 683
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Mr Engle has a profile on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/wil-engle-49b2421a5/) in which he asserts that he is CEO of "Global Executive Charters NV", which is presumably where the fictitious registration PJ-GEC comes from. His profile, unusually for LinkedIn, makes no reference to his career history.
Of course a profile on LinkedIn doesn't constitute proof that an organisation or individual actually exists.
Of course a profile on LinkedIn doesn't constitute proof that an organisation or individual actually exists.
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: A little South of North
Posts: 275
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I would like to know if a Falcon 8x is parked either at MCO/ORL or Daytona or even Florida?
There are 11 US registered Falcon 8Xs on the US register at the last count. One is registered in Dallas and one in Orlando. Incidentally, I could only find one bizjet registered PJ- and that's a Cessna 510, PJ-DOM.
There are 11 US registered Falcon 8Xs on the US register at the last count. One is registered in Dallas and one in Orlando. Incidentally, I could only find one bizjet registered PJ- and that's a Cessna 510, PJ-DOM.
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Siargao Island
Posts: 1,043
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hes on a forum chatting away giving war stories. Stories that I think are exaggerated or just not true. Im not the only one to pass comment on it.
Same reaction to ‘Stolen Valour’.
But what I dont like is that student pilots are loving it but dont realise this guy could be a Mitty.
The industry already has enough snakes.
Same reaction to ‘Stolen Valour’.
But what I dont like is that student pilots are loving it but dont realise this guy could be a Mitty.
The industry already has enough snakes.
Hang on, he's supposedly a RNAF pilot who did some training with USAF when as far as I'm aware the RNAF are quite capable of and do train their own pilots, then he claims to have served under USAF commands yet it's not so common that officers with the equivalent rank of an RAF Wing Commander remain as jet jockeys and particularly not with foreign militaries, by that rank they are normally flying a desk, I'm aware of detachments to other militaries, kind of goodwill reciprocal detachments between militaries, but not entire military flying careers with no mention that he ever flew or fulfilled any role whatsoever with the RNAF.
And when recently have the Dutch (RNAF) been involved in a NATO (war) offensive ... "If something doesn't make sense then it normally isn't true" ... Get over it, get over him.
... Lt Cnl is a senior military rank, perhaps 15 years service to attain, then he's flown commercially for AA, so why doesn't he refer to himself as Capt. rather than Lt. Cnl.
In my past I worked with a lot of ex military aircrew, I am ex military myself so I 'get it', not one of those would identify themselves as 'Wing Commander' or 'Group Captain' or whatever, they would identify themselves by name or as Captain or whatever.
In my past I worked with a lot of ex military aircrew, I am ex military myself so I 'get it', not one of those would identify themselves as 'Wing Commander' or 'Group Captain' or whatever, they would identify themselves by name or as Captain or whatever.
I've known pilots on AEFs who are retired RAF senior officers up to Air Cdre and still only use the rank of Fg Off.
On the other hand, I was given the privilege of using the title 'Flt Lt RAFVRT (Retd) when I was kicked out and I know some retired VRT officers/poseurs who do this but I don't.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: In Space
Posts: 683
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I would like to know if a Falcon 8x is parked either at MCO/ORL or Daytona or even Florida?
There are 11 US registered Falcon 8Xs on the US register at the last count. One is registered in Dallas and one in Orlando. Incidentally, I could only find one bizjet registered PJ- and that's a Cessna 510, PJ-DOM.
There are 11 US registered Falcon 8Xs on the US register at the last count. One is registered in Dallas and one in Orlando. Incidentally, I could only find one bizjet registered PJ- and that's a Cessna 510, PJ-DOM.
i just feel for these innocent people who have a love for aviation and someone thinks its okay to pretend to be something they are not and feeding them lies.
I have come up with the conclusion that this person is exaggerating their career and status. I do thank you guys for your time and hope you are all keeping safe.
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Age: 42
Posts: 190
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just a thought - but whilst it's true FR24 do block many flights at the owner's request, there are other smaller websites that track ADSB/MLAT data and the aircraft will likely be visible on these. 360Radar would be one such example, although I'm not sure how comprehensive their coverage of the US is. The next time this guy claims to be airborne, but invisible to FR24, check the other tracking sites.
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Siargao Island
Posts: 1,043
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Isn't the correct abbreviation 'Lt Col'?
I've known pilots on AEFs who are retired RAF senior officers up to Air Cdre and still only use the rank of Fg Off.
On the other hand, I was given the privilege of using the title 'Flt Lt RAFVRT (Retd) when I was kicked out and I know some retired VRT officers/poseurs who do this but I don't.
I've known pilots on AEFs who are retired RAF senior officers up to Air Cdre and still only use the rank of Fg Off.
On the other hand, I was given the privilege of using the title 'Flt Lt RAFVRT (Retd) when I was kicked out and I know some retired VRT officers/poseurs who do this but I don't.
If he is the boss of a commercial executive jet operation on his business cards etc. should be Captain, CEO or similar, no potential civilian customers wants a jerk who remains living in the days of his military youth!
Last edited by Harry Wayfarers; 13th May 2020 at 13:24.
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not sure of it's the same person but he may have been mentioned back in 2001?
Wil Engle, Retired AA
Wil Engle, Retired AA
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Dubai and Sunderland
Posts: 818
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Reminds me of an old boy in the 80's who used to get into our local in Christchurch, he would always be dressed in his RAF uniform and have young girls hanging off each arm! Used to come out with stories of flying Spitfires, Lightnings etc, he claimed to be still in RAF in ATC but still being allowed to fly Chinooks! We always took him with a pinch of salt! I was doing my ATC training at Hurn at the time and one dinner hour a Chinook landed and who should climb out.........
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: In Space
Posts: 683
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not sure of it's the same person but he may have been mentioned back in 2001?
Wil Engle, Retired AA
Wil Engle, Retired AA
