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B737900er 11th May 2020 22:32

Looking for a Private Jet PJ-GECA
 
Hello,
IM looking to find information on a G650ER (PJ-GECA). I have been talking to someone on another forum who claims to own it as he is a CEO for a charter company called GEC.

He claims to fly regularly into KDAL from Saint Martin (SXM). ive done numerous searches and never have seen this plane, nor found its registration anywhere.

Have any of the spotters seen it?

He claims you cannot see this plane on Flight radar due to security??


atakacs 11th May 2020 22:59

Not listed here

Do you know for fact that said aircraft actually exists ?

B737900er 12th May 2020 00:32

I personally dont think it does.
Its a second hand G650ER. He also claims to have Hawker 800XP.
the only company that is based at SXM that has access to a G650ER and Hawkers is private fly.

The AC regularly flies to KDAL. Surely someone must have seen it?
the guys name is LTCol. Wil de Klerk-erangle. Now i cant find any thing on this guy on the net. It would be good if some could
search the US service records.

DaveReidUK 12th May 2020 07:22

If it helps:

a) the Netherlands Antilles uses 3 letter registrations, e.g. PJ-AAA, not 4-letter ones.

b) there has never been a G650 on the PJ- register

c) there has never been an 800XP on the PJ- register

I think you're being spun a yarn.

skydiver69 12th May 2020 08:03


Originally Posted by B737900er (Post 10779693)
Hello,
IM looking to find information on a G650ER (PJ-GECA). I have been talking to someone on another forum who claims to own it as he is a CEO for a charter company called GEC.

Is he called Jason Unsworth by any chance?:)

Harry Wayfarers 12th May 2020 08:31


Originally Posted by B737900er (Post 10779760)
I personally dont think it does.
Its a second hand G650ER. He also claims to have Hawker 800XP.
the only company that is based at SXM that has access to a G650ER and Hawkers is private fly.

The AC regularly flies to KDAL. Surely someone must have seen it?
the guys name is LTCol. Wil de Klerk-erangle. Now i cant find any thing on this guy on the net. It would be good if some could
search the US service records.

So what is the bottom line, why are you seeking this information, is this Lt Cnl character expecting money from you, it is clearly a load of bull**** so why not play him at his own game to learn the truth, let him believe that you have fallen for his nonsense, such persons normally drop a clanger sooner or later and expose their fraudulent activities

G-ARZG 12th May 2020 08:59


Originally Posted by skydiver69 (Post 10780045)
Is he called Jason Unsworth by any chance?:)

Damn, you beat me to it! Maybe that other Prunestar Robert W---er was the ferry pilot?

​Ask for the MSN (manufacturer's serial nr) ??

B737900er 12th May 2020 09:21


Originally Posted by G-ARZG (Post 10780103)
Damn, you beat me to it! Maybe that other Prunestar Robert W---er was the ferry pilot?

​Ask for the MSN (manufacturer's serial nr) ??


I believe this person is a walter mitty.

but he keeps banging on about his G650ER PJ-GEC.


Harry Wayfarers 12th May 2020 10:18


Originally Posted by B737900er (Post 10780128)
I believe this person is a walter mitty.

but he keeps banging on about his G650ER PJ-GEC.

Give it a try, go to Goggle Images and enter any legitimate a/c registration you like and resulting pics shall appear ... This registration doesn't receive any results, it's a fake.

Walking Ballast 12th May 2020 10:52

He'not related to any Nigerian Princes by any chance?

Or the private pilot there of.....

B737900er 12th May 2020 11:06


Originally Posted by Walking Ballast (Post 10780218)
He'not related to any Nigerian Princes by any chance?

Or the private pilot there of.....

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....388fbba4f.jpeg
This is his profile; Now that it some career. I would like to think he is legitimate. However, ive been in the game long enough to call BS. He claims to be based out Saint Martin (SXM).
Also he was a NASA check airman and worked for American Airlines.


kenparry 12th May 2020 11:21

SEATO was dissolved in 1977 - so how old is this guy??

B737900er 12th May 2020 11:40

The guy is old. But his story is to good to be true.

ive spoken to him numerous times and he does now his stuff but the story of him owning multiple jets, Jets that are untraceable (for security reasons he claims) doesnt sit quite right.

Harry Wayfarers 12th May 2020 12:02


Originally Posted by B737900er (Post 10780271)
The guy is old. But his story is to good to be true.

ive spoken to him numerous times and he does now his stuff but the story of him owning multiple jets, Jets that are untraceable (for security reasons he claims) doesnt sit quite right.

The country name is "The Netherlands", not "Netherlands", whilst his CPL/ATP might be American the Dutch speak better English than the English and it is "licence, not "license"

B737900er 12th May 2020 12:19


Originally Posted by Harry Wayfarers (Post 10780305)
The country name is "The Netherlands", not "Netherlands", whilst his CPL/ATP might be American the Dutch speak better English than the English and it is "licence, not "license"

ive searched the FAA data base and there is no mention of this guy?

SpringHeeledJack 12th May 2020 12:27

It is highly unlikely that the genuine owner of a multi-million $ company would be on a forum, using their real name, giving away information to unknown others (you). I'm reasonably sure that some do (leohairycamel) and others, but anonymously.

He's probably someone whose cv is along the line somewhere in the past and now has fun embellishing his life for personal entertainment. Either play him at his own game, or roll your eyes, shrug your shoulders and move on.

B737900er 12th May 2020 12:37

I wouldnt normally go this far into “outing” someone on a forum.

But when I smell rat, I find it hard to bite my tongue, especially when I have too much time on my hands.

Like I said, I hope the guy is legit but so far nothing is connecting.

Pistonprop 12th May 2020 14:46

Checking another source other than the usual ones, I can confirm that the registration does not exist, nor has it ever in the past. I also checked other derivatives and only came up with a Learjet 75, OE-GEC (Austria). In my opinion this guy may be a pilot (or ex pilot) but otherwise a fake.

B737900er 12th May 2020 16:07


Originally Posted by Pistonprop (Post 10780470)
Checking another source other than the usual ones, I can confirm that the registration does not exist, nor has it ever in the past. I also checked other derivatives and only came up with a Learjet 75, OE-GEC (Austria). In my opinion this guy may be a pilot (or ex pilot) but otherwise a fake.


Thank you guys for the information. I do have another request.

How can I found out the where about of a particular aircraft variant?

I would like to know if a Falcon 8x is parked either at MCO/ORL or Daytona or even Florida?

I smell another suspicious character who claims to fly one.

Harry Wayfarers 12th May 2020 16:10


Originally Posted by B737900er (Post 10780323)
ive searched the FAA data base and there is no mention of this guy?

Do US military airmen hold FAA licenses, I mean let's say when they might be bombing the crap out of a country are they FAA regulated as to minimum height, minimum separation etc. ... I wasn't aware that military airmen hold civil commercial licenses!


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