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alphabravocharlie1 20th Apr 2010 11:10

CAE-Indigo recruitment
 
Dear Applicant,

Please find attached information about the IndiGo A320 type rating program at CAE.Also,we would request you to register on the CAE website.

The next assessment would be on 26th April 2010 and 3rd May 2010 in Delhi.

If you are interested to take part in the selections, kindly reply latest by 18th April 2010.

Please Note that the minimum age to apply for this program is 20Years and the maximum age is 35 Years for Jr Copilots.

IF YOU DO NOT MEET THE MINIMUM AGE CRITERIA WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO APPLY AGAIN ONCE THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA IS MET.

In case you meet the above stated criteria, We would like to review the following for assessments for IndiGo(please reply in the email itself)

1. Total Flight Hours.
2. Total ME Flight Hours(actual+ sim)
3. Type of License, Country of issue

4. Indian license details

License/
Category
Valid up to

CPL(ME, Land)

FRTOL

COP/RTR

Indian Medical












5. Is ME-IR endorsed on your Indian CPL?


Note: Licenses must be valid at all times


Ps: IndiGo A320 is a self sponsored type rating program.

Pilots of all authorities interested in the assessment should have valid Indian License.
Please ignore this mail if you have already appeared for the Cae-IndiGo assessment held on 7th April 2010.

If you have any queries, do not hesitate to contact us.


Warm Regards,
Parul Huria
Recruiter-Pilot Provisioning
CAE
www.cae.com

vinayak 25th Apr 2010 05:13

heard the exam on 26 is not happening. anyone got a call so far? for 26th?

acepilot47 25th Apr 2010 08:24

its on 3rd nd 4th May..

acepilot47 25th Apr 2010 08:31

Cae Indigo
 
does ny1 knw if CALCULATORS nd FLIGHT COMPUTERS allowed in indigo xam??...

alphabravocharlie1 25th Apr 2010 08:52


does ny1 knw if CALCULATORS nd FLIGHT COMPUTERS allowed in indigo xam??...
how stupid can you get ? :confused:
Take a calculator and flight computer with u to the exam and if it is not allowed, leave it in your bag outside exam hall.

moron

nikaviator 25th Apr 2010 09:47

@alphabravocharlie1... easy on the expletives. If you don't know the answer instead of resorting to verbally abusing a newbie, it's better not to say anything at all, you being new to the forum yourself.

@Acepilot 47, I heard for the air india selection last year flight computers and scientific calculators were not allowed, so you have to know certain values like cos 60 etc.

I am not sure about the rules in the cae-indigo recruitment, perhaps someone else can shed the light.

alphabravocharlie1 25th Apr 2010 09:59

@nikaviator

I still stand by what I said.

does a flight computer or calculator weigh 50 kilograms that it is so difficult or a pain to carry around ??? :confused:

if the flight computer is allowed inside the exam hall, good for him, and if not, just leave it outside.

therefore, it is a silly question.

nikaviator 25th Apr 2010 10:14

like I said, he would need to revise certain values and short cuts to calculations that can normally be pulled out from the calculator and flight computer if it is not allowed--if it is allowed he wouldn't need to do that, I think that is why he asked that question in the first place.

The question was innocuous, there's no point putting a person down in the thread you started, especially when there are people who are willing to answer it without resorting to abuse.

Sahil Verma 1st May 2010 07:39

Dear AlphabravoCharlie1,
Could you please tell me when you applied for this program and after how long you received this reply. I applied for this around 6th April and have also mailed them a couple of times after that but got no response.

Regards,
Sahil Verma

high_flyer2009 3rd May 2010 17:10

Any news about the exam that was conducted today...heard a very low passing rate again!!:D

vinayak 3rd May 2010 17:18

4 outa 70 made it. For today. It was a tough nut to crack today

FlyingManutd 3rd May 2010 23:40

Vinayak....hi....4 out of 70...are u describing the no of guys who cleared from the start of this CAE assesment process or from just one sitting ...??

optimus.Prime 4th May 2010 05:58

^^^,

A total of 25 candidates had been invited for the "assessment" on the 07th of April, out of which 2 ended up clearing the written.

Yesterday, on the 03rd of May , 40 of them were called in, of which 4 happened to clear the written, and are up for the subsequent tests - of which the English Test is scheduled for later today.

A Slight Update :
The Third Written assessment which was today, the 04th of May , had 44 candidates out of which 4 (yet again the same number) made it past the written.

shanx 4th May 2010 13:16

Some of the questions from the CAE-Indigo "assessment" test :


1. What happens when CG is ahead of CP ? ..(or something like that..)

a. downward force on tail plane
b. upward force on tail plane
c. no force on tail plane
d. ...... :confused:


2. What would you set your transponder code (SSR) to in the even of an emergency ?

a. 7400
b. 7500
c. 7700
d. some other BS option


3. Some METAR was given .. with PROB30..
What does PROB 30 mean ?

a. probability of 30%
b. chances of some BS occuring within next 2 hours ...
c. :confused:
d. ??


4. How will an intercepting aircraft signal the intercepted aircraft that it may continue it's flight ? .. (something like that)

a. execute climbing right 90 degree turn without being out of sight of intercepted a/c
b. overtake a/c from right
c. (dont remember option)
d. (dont remember option)


5. While taxiing, you notice flashing green light from tower.
What does it mean ?

6. What frequency does a low altitude radar altimeter work on ?

7. Some question related to VDF and ground equipment.


8. Some question on scale ...

9. Some question on Mercator projection.

10. Select the correct statement (direct reading compass) :

a. Accuracy of compass is proportional to the vertical component of earth's mag field.
b. Accuracy of compass is inversely proportional to vertical earth's mag field.
( Switch the words vertical/horizontal and inversely proportional in the above to sentences to get option c and d)


11. What does anunciator in a Remote indicating compass indicate ?

(Dont remember the options)

12. What is the Diameter of the earth ?

13. Two questions related to altimeter setting, QNH, QFE, WNE etc

14. What is used to increase lateral stability in an a/c ?
(dont remember the options .. one of them was DIHEDRAL)

15. What are the typical values indicated wrt an a/c on an SSR display screen ... ?

.... will add more if I can recall ....

shanx 4th May 2010 13:34

.......... (some more questions I recall ) ...........
.
.
16. what is metabolism ? :mad:

17. What are alveoli permeable to ? :}

a. protein
b. gases
c. dont remember
d. dont rememebr

18. What do you mean by dysbarism ?

Dysbarism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia :}


19. What would you do if your breathing rate and heart rate were high on final approach, and you were hyperventilating ?? :}
(dont remember options .. but trust me they were comical options)

20. Some problem related to Magnetic heading, Compass heading, Deviation, Variation etc .. (CDMVT type)

21. What would happen to your airspeed indicator reading if, after flying through some volcanic ash, your pitot tube and static ports get blocked ?

22. What does an airspeed indicator display if the pitot hole gets blocked with ice, but static vent remains open ?

23. Some question related to VHF, increasing altitude and it's relationship to atmospheric attenuation.


............

wingtip vortices 4th May 2010 15:24

thanx shank !!

did u make it in exam.

optimus.Prime 4th May 2010 17:16

@ Shanx,

An A+ for the effort, time and patience!

Greatly appreciated!:ok:

Delta Bravo353 4th May 2010 18:02

Thnx Shanx..appreciate ur effort :D

Now Guys What does this metabolism and What are alveoli permeable to have to do with Aviaiton...:ugh: and can some one pls clarify on the answers

Thnx...

shanx 4th May 2010 20:46

24. If you're flying through rain that freezes on impact, ...
(choose the correct one)

a) You're flying near thunderstorms
b) You're flying through a cold front
c) The freezing level would be at a higher altitude
d) Descending would make the ice go away from the airframe

25. Some question related to gyroscopes with a diagram.

26. How many planes of freedom does the gyro in a turn indicator have ?

27. While taxiing and making a right turn, turn coordinator indicates ... :

a) Wings to the right, ball to the left
b) Wings to the left, ball to the right
c) wings to the left, ball to the left
d) wings to the right, ball right

28. In a right banked turn, the turn co ordinator shows wings banked right and ball to the left.
select the correct statement

a) The bank angle is too much for the amount of rudder used.

b) The bank angle is too less for the amount of rudder used ..

(errr .. dont remember the options well :confused:)


29. There were atleast 2 questions related to GPS/GNSS/GLONASS and another question asking which of the 4 options was the most accurate system.
(dont remember the 4 options well)

30. A numerical problem related to calculating the Time of Sunset in UTC at a given place. (Geographical Co-ordinates of the place is mentioned)

31. One question related to drag curve and point of least Lift to Drag ratio.

32. Several speeds were mentioned .. ie. VMU (Max unstick speed), VMC (min control speed), V1, Vr, V2, Vs and 4 options were given .. Correct option had to be ticked.

options like like ..
a) VMU < V1 < VS
b) V1>VS>VMC etc etc ...
(so study up on all the V Speeds !)

33. If Stalling speed for an aircraft at bank angle of 10 degrees = 60 knots, what would be it's stalling speed at 45 degree bank angle turn ?

a) 70 Knots
b) 83 Knots
c) 85 Knots
d) 90 knots

34. An aircraft that inadvertently deviates from it's flight path should :

a) inform ATC if ETA changes by more than 10 min
b) ???
c) ???
d) ???

35. Time required for the eyes to adapt to the dark :

a) 10 min
b) 20-25 min
c) ??
d) ??

.......
....................

abcdefoxtrot 5th May 2010 13:03

alveloi
 
"when at the controls of the aircraft has something to do with aviation" it
has nothing to do with a/c control:=
alveoli is something Exchanging of gases
permeable to gases i.e co2:ok:

flyjet787 5th May 2010 16:03

@shanx
 
Vmu is minimum unstick speed not max

shanx 5th May 2010 16:46

@flyjet

noted !:ok:

... (P.S there could be lots of typos ... Been typing those off my head in the wee hours of the morning !)

jimmygill 6th May 2010 03:01


An A+ for the effort, time and patience!

And what about the money spent?

optimus.Prime 6th May 2010 05:23

@ jimmygill,

That was for the laborious task of remembering and sharing with all, some of the questions that were asked during the "assessment". :ok:

RterO 6th May 2010 14:30

Hey any idea when the interviews are to be held?:}

jimmygill 7th May 2010 06:42


Candidates were given answer sheets to mark the answers with pen.
No OMR sheets. Answer had to be TICKED with pen.
And the modus operandi was:

If you don't know the answer leave it unmarked, Parul will mark the correct choice for you, provided you are in her good books.

Am I lying?
Am I just making sure that people get discouraged and I can sit for the exam with least competition?

But seriously speaking there are better uses to 375 USD than the Indigo Assessment.

abcdefoxtrot 7th May 2010 10:36

jimmygill

u r damn right!:sad:

alphabravocharlie1 7th May 2010 13:01


And the modus operandi was:

If you don't know the answer leave it unmarked, Parul will mark the correct choice for you, provided you are in her good books.
Im impressed jimmy!
I dont know if u guessed or what, but you're cent percent correct:ok:

I got this email also but did not go for this lousy fraud exam.
(Im pastin the email below)

for those crazy about making it to indigo somehow or the other, go have a personal casual talk with miss parul. Dont worry. she's very nice and friendly and will understand everything.:}

alphabravocharlie1 7th May 2010 13:03

Dear Applicant,

You are invited for the CAE-IndiGo assessments! Kindly note the eligibility criteria prior to making the payment for assessments. IndiGo program details and selection process documents are attached for reference. The program is self sponsored and there is no sponsorship from the airline on selection.

Eligibility Requirements:
  •  
    • Valid Indian CPL/ FRTOL /RT/ Medicaland Min 25 ME hours including Simulator .ME-IR should be endorsed on your Indian CPL.Indian CPL holders without valid RT or those appearing for RT exams are not permitted for assessments. You can attempt the next assessment to be scheduled later.
Licences must be valid at all times
· Indian Nationality
· Minimum Age: 20 years,Maximum Age: 35 years
  •  
    • We do not accept applications based on FATA rule.
Please note: Pilots selected through this program will be trained at CAE, Madrid. The assessment would consist of 4 Stages:
Stage 1 : Aviation Test
Stage 2 : English Language skill test
Stage 3 : CASS
Stage 4:Group Exercise and final round of interview (technical and HR) with IndiGo.

- There will be eliminations after everyStage. If eliminated you will be out of the process for 6 months, after which you can try again
- Candidate successfully completing the CASS test will be invited for an interview with IndiGo. The interview date and location will be intimated separately to the successful candidates by email.



Documentation required on the day of assessment : CV (with complete postal address), License, FRTOL, RTR, last 3 pages of logbook, Medical, Passport ( 1st & Last Page only) (both original and photocopy of all the documents is required). Pilots who have submitted application to DGCA for conversion, need to submit copy of the application form. Photocopy of all these documents have to be submitted to us.
Cost : 375USD (non refundable)
Payment method : Credit Card (only VISA card) or bank transfer

For bank transfer :
Bank Name : Banco Bilbao Vizcaya Argentaria (BBVA)
Bank Address : Alcala 16, 28014 - Madrid
Account Number : 0182 3994 0402 0150 6348
IBAN : ES92 0182 3994 0402 0150 6348
BIC/Swiftcode : BBVAESMM
Copy of bank transfer receipt need to be emailedlatest by 21st April 2010 to [email protected]

Details of the company (beneficiary name and address) to which the payment is being done is given below:
SIV OPS TRAINING, S.L.
Area Industrial – 2 “La Muñoza”
28042 – Madrid – Spain
VAT: B-84519677

For credit card payment (VISA card only):
You will be required to provide the following information about your card latest by 21st April to [email protected]

Name on card
· Postal Address of the card holder
  • Card number
  • Expiry date
  • 3 digit code on the back side
· Applicant’s Complete Postal Address
· Applicant’s Passport Number
· Applicant’s Contact number
· Applicant’s Date of Birth

There is no facility to pay cash on the day of assessment. We donot issue hall ticket or Roll numbers.

Please note: Walk-ins on the day of assessment is not allowed.

The Aviation knowledge test would be conducted on 26th April and 3rd May 2010 in Delhi. You will be allotted a test date by Radhika in a separate email along with the time and venue details of the assessment.

Looking forward to meet you in Delhi !!


Warm Regards,
Parul Huria
Recruiter - Pilot Provisioning
CAE Simulation Technologies Pvt Ltd.
India
E-mail : [email protected]
Mob:+919560448585
www.cae.com

cyrilroy21 9th May 2010 01:15

Does anyone know how much these candidates earn as a salary once you join them as a junior co pilot ?

Also how much would you earn once you are upgraded to a fully fledged co-pilot and how long would that take ?

Is it worth paying $31,000 :( for the type rating ?

If you read the FAQ's even if i have 5000 hrs of pure jet time (as a co-pilot on a non airbus family)
i still have to pay atleast $20,000 for the type rating to CAE if i want to join them :eek: :ugh::(

alphabravocharlie1 9th May 2010 06:57

CAE-INDIGO FAQ :


3. What is the process of selection?
An eligible candidate will be screened by a series of tests for ability, aptitude and psychological profile to be conducted by CAE Madrid in India at the candidates cost. Successful candidates will be offered to IndiGo for a personal interview. Selected candidates will be given a conditional Letter of Intent of Employment by IndiGo. CAE Madrid will make the arrangement for their Type Rating Training. After the Type Rating, IndiGo will conduct a Skill evaluation on A320 Simulator.

(Beware of the point above underlined very very carefully !!!)

5.Who will arrange my visa for training?
CAE will facilitate the Visa process for you but you will be responsible to obtain your own visa & other necessary travel related documents.

6.Who will make my travel arrangements?
The candidate is responsible to make his own travel arrangements.

8.Where will I stay during training and who will arrange it?
To be decided later, however the training school will make arrangements for your stay. The cost of accommodation will be borne by the candidate.

9.Who pays for the A320 Type Rating Training?
The cost of A320 Type Rating training is borne by the candidate.


10. What is the course price?
The A320 type rating course price in Madrid centre is:
Low experience pilots – USD 31,000 – including
- Multicrew Coordination Course – Long Entry Level Training
- A320 Type Qualification Course as per Indian DGCA requirements
Experienced pilots (without jet experience).USD 24,500 – including
- Short ELT “Jet Familiarization” course
- A320 Type Qualification Course as per Indian DGCA requirements
Experienced pilots (with jet experience). USD 20,500 - Including
- A320 Type Qualification Course as per Indian DGCA requirements
Training fee does not include any cost related to your accommodation, travel and living cost

11. What additional costs that I have to pay?
You will be responsible to bear expenses towards selection test, visa, airfare and living
expenses at the location of your type rating training.

12. If I do this investment, will IndiGo guarantee a job?
IndiGo does not guarantee a job. IndiGo will issue a letter expressing its intention to hire you, subject to meeting the conditions stipulated in the Letter of Intent (LOI).

13. What kind of contract do I get (permanent/temporary)?
If you are hired by IndiGo, employment will be under permanent contract.

14. From what stage in the program will I get paid?
The payment will start the day pilot joins IndiGo as Co-pilot or Jr. Copilot.

15. Once hired, what salary can I expect?
Successful candidates shall be offered a job with IndiGo, either as a Co Pilot or Jr Co Pilot and they would be required to sign a Pilot Employment Agreement. The salary & benefits shall be
payable as prevalent on the day of signing the contract agreement by IndiGo. Compensation shall be decided by IndiGo at its sole discretion.

RterO 22nd May 2010 11:24

hey any news with indigo gyz?

kinko 25th May 2010 14:29

Hey shanx,

any help with where i could prepare from for the written assessment.
have been called for the june session.

ktmb-ktmb 25th May 2010 14:36

Hey kinko,
When is the written assessment and when did u receive the email from CAE-Indigo ? I had registered on CAE in the last week of March and am yet to receive any information about the next assessment from them ?

Kindly tell me when is the next assessment ? If possible please copy/paste the email you received..

kinko 26th May 2010 04:53

i registered in early march and received my notification yesterday...

bombayhues 2nd Jun 2010 12:31

Would really appreciate it if someone who appeared for the CAE exam today share their experience and the type of questions they encountered.
Thanks

ktmb-ktmb 2nd Jun 2010 15:54

I agree with you .... Can somebody post a few questions from todays assessment ...

divinegirl 4th Jun 2010 08:21

Can someone post when next indigo assessment is going to happen?

bombayhues 4th Jun 2010 10:10

I think they will decide in a few days time and sent out the mails ... at least thats been the pattern till date

Toucan9278 4th Jun 2010 10:10

Questions
 
Assessment on the 2nd of May 100 questions, 70 % passing:

1. A Mercator Chart on a parallel 46 deg N, the Chart distance is 133 cms. What will be the scale factor at 36 deg N/S lat?

2. Departure questions X 2 nos. having the 1st position followed by 4 different legs in NM calculate the final position.

3. PET and PSR questions with G/S already calculated 1 each

4. Lots of Human Factors 15 questions.

5. Metrology atleast 15 questions.
a. Metar's X 2 nos. on RVR

4 Flying @ FL 22000 decent to 4000 Ft. G/S 150 kts. what will be the ROD?

5. Mode C transponder can be operated in :
A. Control airspace
B. Uncontrolled airspace and to be turned on when ATC instructs
c. Should be on at all times while flying
d. Should be on at all times while flying, but can be asked by the ATC to shut down.

6. Calculate range of 2 VOR's

7. Lambert conical chat X 2 questions.

8. CRM X 4 questions.

9. Radio aids like TCAS, SSR, Primary radar, DME atleast 8 to 10 questions.

Overall the question paper wasn't that bad except few of tricky HF and CRM. Out of 80 people only 4 cleared. I don't think selection criteria is 70 % it is above that which CAE doesn't wasn't to mention as they won't get as much business as they would otherwise.

I personally think it waste of Money to pay 375 USD to them for a LOI?......


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