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Originally Posted by Gflyerfly
Honestly just be yourself because that's what they're looking for. Different airlines look for different personalities as much as they argue that pilots are all the same. It's more geared at seeing whether you fit with the company culture.
Yeah the just practice on the sim because you won't have a clue what sim you're doing until you do it.
But you are right, just worry about one bit at a time. Not to be too pessimistic or anything, the rejection rate is very high for SQ. If you haven't already done so, go have a look a bit more in depth about SQ with regards to lifestyle, pay, living in SG etc. There's a lot to consider other than just the job.
Yeah the just practice on the sim because you won't have a clue what sim you're doing until you do it.
But you are right, just worry about one bit at a time. Not to be too pessimistic or anything, the rejection rate is very high for SQ. If you haven't already done so, go have a look a bit more in depth about SQ with regards to lifestyle, pay, living in SG etc. There's a lot to consider other than just the job.
As much as this job is attractive the downside is the cost of living in Singapore is one of the highest in the world, if you are single you can manage but if with a family and kids it will be a challenge. The salary is on local terms, no housing allowance, no schooling and relocation assistance.
Additionally this job comes with a 7 year bond and for 5 year a sum will be deducted for the type rating cost so even less money. The salary is ok but not on par with other world class airlines. Most guys get the rating and hrs and leave.
But right now we should all wait to get invited hopefully soon we shall get .
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Originally Posted by cruisepower
totally agree with the above. SIA is one of the best airlines in the world and you are guaranteed a world class training program and work environment. The rejection rate is indeed high and only the right ones get in. But no one should lose hope we all are together in it, if you get invited and give your best then this job is yours.
As much as this job is attractive the downside is the cost of living in Singapore is one of the highest in the world, if you are single you can manage but if with a family and kids it will be a challenge. The salary is on local terms, no housing allowance, no schooling and relocation assistance.
Additionally this job comes with a 7 year bond and for 5 year a sum will be deducted for the type rating cost so even less money. The salary is ok but not on par with other world class airlines. Most guys get the rating and hrs and leave.
But right now we should all wait to get invited hopefully soon we shall get .
As much as this job is attractive the downside is the cost of living in Singapore is one of the highest in the world, if you are single you can manage but if with a family and kids it will be a challenge. The salary is on local terms, no housing allowance, no schooling and relocation assistance.
Additionally this job comes with a 7 year bond and for 5 year a sum will be deducted for the type rating cost so even less money. The salary is ok but not on par with other world class airlines. Most guys get the rating and hrs and leave.
But right now we should all wait to get invited hopefully soon we shall get .
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Originally Posted by yellokiwi
Question about the 7 year bond and rating cost. How much is deducted? When you say most guys get the rating and hrs and leave, how many years after joining do they leave? I'm really not in it for the money but the experience since I wouldn't have to do the instructor route, I see it as a plus for me
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Originally Posted by cruisepower
As much as this job is attractive the downside is the cost of living in Singapore is one of the highest in the world, if you are single you can manage but if with a family and kids it will be a challenge. The salary is on local terms, no housing allowance, no schooling and relocation assistance.
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Originally Posted by cavok99
Surely they must give you housing allowance as an expat because living in Singapore without is quite substantial and you can’t live in box studio if you have a family. I know even cabin crew get an allowance towards their accommodations
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Hi everyone! I have FAA CPL MEIR with 750+ hours. In the United States, even RATP requires 1000 total hours with 200 XC if you have an aviation degree. Should I apply for Cadet Pilot or it is better to wait until I get my RATP in the US to apply for Second Officer? I plan to take ATP written exam soon, but I am not sure if CPL MEIR + ATP exam credits are okay for the second officer. I would be grateful if someone could help me!
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Originally Posted by Flyshechu
Hi everyone! I have FAA CPL MEIR with 750+ hours. In the United States, even RATP requires 1000 total hours with 200 XC if you have an aviation degree. Should I apply for Cadet Pilot or it is better to wait until I get my RATP in the US to apply for Second Officer? I plan to take ATP written exam soon, but I am not sure if CPL MEIR + ATP exam credits are okay for the second officer. I would be grateful if someone could help me!
If you have a green card or American citizen stay where you are. There is an unprecedented pilot shortage in the US, try to find a job where you can build hrs and as soon as you reach ATP mins the regionals will fight to take you.
However if you still want to join SIA then you already meet the min requirements. The bare min is 200hrs with CPL.
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Originally Posted by cruisepower
If you have a green card or American citizen stay where you are. There is an unprecedented pilot shortage in the US, try to find a job where you can build hrs and as soon as you reach ATP mins the regionals will fight to take you.
However if you still want to join SIA then you already meet the min requirements. The bare min is 200hrs with CPL.
However if you still want to join SIA then you already meet the min requirements. The bare min is 200hrs with CPL.
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Originally Posted by Whispering Giant
Just wondering if anyone who has applied has heard anything yet ?, or if they are waiting till they close the vacancy before calling people for interviews.
I am assuming expats would be the last in the list, they are probably waiting to see if they get enough locals and PRs to fill in the slots before calling expats.
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Originally Posted by Prospective_Pilot
Hi guys,
newbie here with 79 PIC hours and 279 total hours. Is it worth applying to Singapore or should I look at other opportunities? Need your opinions and feedback. Thanks
newbie here with 79 PIC hours and 279 total hours. Is it worth applying to Singapore or should I look at other opportunities? Need your opinions and feedback. Thanks
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Originally Posted by cruisepower
You are not going to lose anything in applying. The min requirement is 250 hrs so you definitely meet the requirement. Give it a go! you never know what life has for you.
These days HR of most airlines are so stupid that they’d hire a 250 hr young pilot than a 10,000 hrs middle age pilot with jet time and blah blah blah. So you never know. Best of luck.
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Originally Posted by 777JockeyIN
These days HR of most airlines are so stupid that they’d hire a 250 hr young pilot than a 10,000 hrs middle age pilot with jet time and blah blah blah. So you never know. Best of luck.
Everyone has to start somewhere right? No one is born with 10,000 hrs. That experienced pilots was once a 250hr young pilot so it's important we respect everyone as we all know how frustrating is to get that first job after flight school.
All the best to everyone don't stop trying. YOU NEVER KNOW.
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Example 1 Some HR these days are hiring a type rated FO with 1000hrs/500 on type over some one who has 1000s of hours on multiple jets
Example 2 A Type rated capt with 500pic over someone who has flown multiple widebody jets with 1000s of pic hrs. At least in these two years.
HR ARE STUPID. At least in Asia, where I live. I can’t comment about EU/US or elsewhere.
I’m not trying to offend anyone.So hold your horses and relax. And 250 hr guys doesn’t have to start directly on 777/350/380. They should rather start as a CFI/Turbo prop/FO or at least a 737FO , like most of us. Get some hands on stick and rudder skills before you move on to FBW. My opinion. Eventually automation will catch up but a this has to happen at least till then, for now.
chao
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Example 2 A Type rated capt with 500pic over someone who has flown multiple widebody jets with 1000s of pic hrs. At least in these two years.
HR ARE STUPID. At least in Asia, where I live. I can’t comment about EU/US or elsewhere.
I’m not trying to offend anyone.So hold your horses and relax. And 250 hr guys doesn’t have to start directly on 777/350/380. They should rather start as a CFI/Turbo prop/FO or at least a 737FO , like most of us. Get some hands on stick and rudder skills before you move on to FBW. My opinion. Eventually automation will catch up but a this has to happen at least till then, for now.
chao
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Originally Posted by 777JockeyIN
Example 1 Some HR these days are hiring a type rated FO with 1000hrs/500 on type over some one who has 1000s of hours on multiple jets
Example 2 A Type rated capt with 500pic over someone who has flown multiple widebody jets with 1000s of pic hrs. At least in these two years.
HR ARE STUPID. At least in Asia, where I live. I can’t comment about EU/US or elsewhere.
I’m not trying to offend anyone.So hold your horses and relax. And 250 hr guys doesn’t have to start directly on 777/350/380. They should rather start as a CFI/Turbo prop/FO or at least a 737FO , like most of us. Get some hands on stick and rudder skills before you move on to FBW. My opinion. Eventually automation will catch up but a this has to happen at least till then, for now.
chao
Safe skies
Example 2 A Type rated capt with 500pic over someone who has flown multiple widebody jets with 1000s of pic hrs. At least in these two years.
HR ARE STUPID. At least in Asia, where I live. I can’t comment about EU/US or elsewhere.
I’m not trying to offend anyone.So hold your horses and relax. And 250 hr guys doesn’t have to start directly on 777/350/380. They should rather start as a CFI/Turbo prop/FO or at least a 737FO , like most of us. Get some hands on stick and rudder skills before you move on to FBW. My opinion. Eventually automation will catch up but a this has to happen at least till then, for now.
chao
Safe skies
Maybe you should think about going back to Europe or US if you still think HR are stupid.
Anyways, All the best to all the young new pilots, good luck in becoming a second officer on the A350 or the B777 at Singapore airlines. Also all the best to experienced pilots looking to join as FO.
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Read up on AF447.
Perspectives always differ. My comment was not about SIA HR but HR of some Asian companies.
No worries mate. I applied for SIA when I didn’t have a job. Now that I have a left seat job, I wouldn’t care anymore about any right seat widebody job.
My comment is only About HR who have no real idea about aviation or pilots. And not about pilots per se.
cheers to everyone who are applying 👍🏼
Perspectives always differ. My comment was not about SIA HR but HR of some Asian companies.
No worries mate. I applied for SIA when I didn’t have a job. Now that I have a left seat job, I wouldn’t care anymore about any right seat widebody job.
My comment is only About HR who have no real idea about aviation or pilots. And not about pilots per se.
cheers to everyone who are applying 👍🏼
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G’day everyone,
8,000 hrs total, of which 2,500 odd on A330. Flown other jets and heavy turboprops as well. Not current or recent due pandemic. Applied for DEFO a few months ago and not a hum in return. Is this all “ops normal” or are they swamped with papers coming in from all over? Either that or they do prefer Singaporean PRs over the rest, perhaps?
8,000 hrs total, of which 2,500 odd on A330. Flown other jets and heavy turboprops as well. Not current or recent due pandemic. Applied for DEFO a few months ago and not a hum in return. Is this all “ops normal” or are they swamped with papers coming in from all over? Either that or they do prefer Singaporean PRs over the rest, perhaps?
