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Old 6th Jul 2011, 03:40
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My cousin did his training on a Seneca I too. He got his endorsement by simply writing PA34 on his logbook. I reckon the DGCA wouldn't even question you as long as you've written it as PA34, unless they verify it with that particular school where you did your flying from.
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rahul, when did you submit your application
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 06:35
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I submitted on April 26th. In my logbook I did write PA34-200 which is the Seneca I.
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 06:50
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They continue to issue licenses on the Duchess and Seneca 1/2 which have been done as recently as yesterday.
@rahulred5 - did you count your flight instructor hours towards the 15hrs PIC in the last 6 months requirement?
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yes I used my PIC hours as CFI towards the 15 hours PIC for the 6 month recency.
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 07:01
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Sounds good. Will do the same.
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 17:43
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Can you fly the Seminole/Duchess after getting 10+hrs training and all the checks done on the approved seneca?
Also the list says C172 S G1000 GFC700, do you have to specifically fly the G1000 for checks or any C172 will do?
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 18:17
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The "Approved aircraft list" has been removed from the website. Fly any Seneca, any C-172.
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 19:15
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Correction flylikeaBE76 - There was a change made 3 weeks ago under the AIRCRAFT link on the DGCA website. The name changed from Approved/Accepted aircrafts to Type Design Acceptance. The list is the same and it still exists. Till 3 weeks ago, it was written Aircrafts accepted till March 2011. Now it reads, From April 2004 - March 2011. Wonder where they got that from.
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 19:24
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Thanks for pointing that out.
Regardless, that is no list to go by for your training. It's a complete farce.
They are still issuing licenses on all popular trainers including the Seneca and Duchess.
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 19:44
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Ah! That list annoys me when I look at it everyday.

I reckon a lot of students have put pressure on these guys - sending emails and letters to the Licensing department and the Director-General. Or they wouldn't be issuing anymore BE76 endorsements at the moment. Weird!
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 20:00
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Well, if they don't issue the BE-76 as a multi endorsement, then they can't endorse the Seneca 1/2 either cuz both have the same issue - Expired CoA. Which would mean 90%+ wouldn't be able to convert their license with a multi. So, common sense should prevail.
As for that list, it doesn't even have an A320 on it. Enough said.
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 21:23
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DGCA is some kind of a joke I guess.
Does anyone know if the Socata TB10 is approved? Tried to look on DGCA's website, can't seem to find it.
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Old 7th Jul 2011, 03:44
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Socata Tobago TB10 isn't approved, but the TB20 (retractable undercarriage) is approved by the DGCA. But many write it on their logbook as TOBA as the type of aircraft, rather than TB10, so that the DGCA doesn't make a fuss about it.
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Old 7th Jul 2011, 13:58
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Seneca I or Partenavia?

Can anyone please recommend which one involves least issues - Seneca I or Partenavia?

Also if I do 5 hours on BE76 and 10 hours on PN68 , Can I still get PN 68 on my licence as minimum 10 hours is done?
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Old 7th Jul 2011, 14:23
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nn1 - Looking at some posts in this forum regarding the Seneca 1 not being approved, I believe the Partenavia will be your saviour - the P68C. I'm pretty sure there isn't any problem with the P68C in India at the moment. Even if you have 5 hours on the BE76, it doesn't really matter. You would get a P68C endorsement on your Indian licence since you have 10 hours on that particular aircraft, as long as you request for the P68C endorsement in your application form.
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Old 7th Jul 2011, 16:43
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Will DGCA object if a student pilot does the training/recency on P68B or for that matter on any other variant of P68 other than P68C? Is it confirm that DGCA is being specific about model as well for a particula type?

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Old 8th Jul 2011, 03:09
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Well, the list of approved aircrafts earlier mentioned only the P68C. I'm not sure about the P68B. It is just like the Seneca I/II/V issue at the moment.

Any PPRune member who's willing to give a confirmation on the P68C or P68B dilemma?
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 03:13
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I think you will have to fly the P-68C as the DGCA also gives the endorsement on the license as P-68C

Even the DGCA technical exams specify P-68C


Whereas on the Piper seneca all the that the DGCA mentions is PA-34


I cant confirm it though...

You can call Ashutosh Vashisht the Deputy Director of licensing and ask him this question
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 09:24
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@cyrilroy21 and smur84

Thanks for the suggestions.

Well in abroad they don't differentiate between the variants of aircrafts. P68C has an extra cargo door and that's the only difference between P68B and P68C. These are the exact words as told to me by my flying school.

It would be very insane if DGCA considers only P68C and not any other variants of P68.
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