Hijacked MAS flight MH 653 on 4th December 1977
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Gentlemen,
I have just registered here however have been following the forums for a long time.
I do agree with the core of Debbys concerns- however knowing the person you all so bravely speak about- I WOULD TOO leave the room if he entered.I do know him, after all ,,,,,many years in the same airline.
But FOR-all the names debby mentioned- please be professional and if that you cant be , then please be cautious.- EVIDENCE can easily be gathered from forums such as this for Slander cases.I have a strange feeling you all are being baited and have foolishly made accusations about not only Gs but others as well.My sources say there might be legal action taken.
JUST MY 2 CENTS WORTH LA.
I have just registered here however have been following the forums for a long time.
I do agree with the core of Debbys concerns- however knowing the person you all so bravely speak about- I WOULD TOO leave the room if he entered.I do know him, after all ,,,,,many years in the same airline.
But FOR-all the names debby mentioned- please be professional and if that you cant be , then please be cautious.- EVIDENCE can easily be gathered from forums such as this for Slander cases.I have a strange feeling you all are being baited and have foolishly made accusations about not only Gs but others as well.My sources say there might be legal action taken.
JUST MY 2 CENTS WORTH LA.
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Hmmmm.....
a sudden upsurge in the number of probationary ppruners defending this individual/offspring.
Thats got my attention
By the way, the aviation community is still a relatively small group of circles.
And as they say "Your reputation preceeds you".
a sudden upsurge in the number of probationary ppruners defending this individual/offspring.
Thats got my attention
By the way, the aviation community is still a relatively small group of circles.
And as they say "Your reputation preceeds you".
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If you want to get legal , there really is no way that comments in this forum can hold good in court.The comments mentioned are those of an individual and not of an establishment or body.All across the world albeit in certain countries , every individual has the right to mention his opinion or point of view and there really is no way you can stop that...
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Wrong
That is incorrect.- look at Raja Petra ( malaysia today) - defamation/slander.
Post away - i really am not fussed./ I registered here to give you all a heads up. I know the individual is gathering evidence for defamation- the son is active here.And furthermore they have powerful lawyers.
All i can say is Mat t and the rest better have their facts correct.
Post away - i really am not fussed./ I registered here to give you all a heads up. I know the individual is gathering evidence for defamation- the son is active here.And furthermore they have powerful lawyers.
All i can say is Mat t and the rest better have their facts correct.
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The context of Raja Petra and the individual in question are totally different.One involves national politics and security while the other none of that really.Like I'd said earlier , "except in some countries"......if that be the case there would be law suits flying around here , as this forum seems to be all about that...hehehe...and yeah being an international forum , it would be pretty hard to decide on the court of arbitration....unless of course you are talking about the international court of arbitration...that would leave quite of few people bankrupt by the time it's over.......having said that this could be the beginning of justice for the spirit of Capt. Ganjoor and the rest of the souls that left us on that day..if that does happen ..there would be a few smiling faces...
....having said that this could be the beginning of justice for the spirit of Capt. Ganjoor and the rest of the souls that left us on that day..if that does happen ..there would be a few smiling faces...
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Well,well,well it looks like things have quitened down a bit on the topic after the threat of legal action by our friends in Singapore.Like I'd mentinoed earlier comrades , there really is no room for any sort of legal action.Even if there is , it will come under the media glare and eventually the Malaysian government will have to face some tough questions.If it comes to that , then the process of justice for the souls lost and the families wronged will begin.It's funny life does come full circle all the time.But digressing a bit, Capt.G has come under a lot of bashing on this forum and I would like to share a little story I came across some time ago about him while he was in Jet.This is regarding the public apology episode. When RAT and G were there during the early years of Jet the standards of flying were quite well maintained and a few crew did have problems getting through various checks.(Not that these guys were TREs).A rich and powerful kid couldn't make it through a check and G was under pressure to clear the kid.Rumour is that G was kind of fixed in this harrasment case and finally decided to quit.I don't know G but have heard of him.I believe RAT tried to help him out but couldn't do much.Now this is not the real story but one of the versions I picked up at a bar some years ago.Looking back there may some credence to it if you look at the number of VPs Jet has had since 2000 and also the number of accidents/incidents...now we got something more to keep this thread alive
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Sh** stirrer
Well we know who is the **** stirrer here.
Obviously a misinformed individual who wants someone to commit themselves to slander and/or defamation.
Also not very well versed with the legal system ( or lack there of ) in Malaysia.
The Hijack was years ago,..and Sky dancer is the one - who keeps bringing up individuals and unrelated issues to cause a stir
Grow up man, and stop stirring the rest.Surely you have a life other than posting here?.
BEWARE- DONT TAKE THE BAIT !!
Obviously a misinformed individual who wants someone to commit themselves to slander and/or defamation.
Also not very well versed with the legal system ( or lack there of ) in Malaysia.
The Hijack was years ago,..and Sky dancer is the one - who keeps bringing up individuals and unrelated issues to cause a stir
Grow up man, and stop stirring the rest.Surely you have a life other than posting here?.
BEWARE- DONT TAKE THE BAIT !!
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well said
Finally someone here with a few brain cells- Well said rain5.
But what a pity i was hoping Skydancer would blow his horn more. ! After all he keeps giving us accounts of :"bar talk" and his version of events making it so obvious he is a fool trying to coerce other fools to scream- ( reminds me a bit of a youth group recently in Malaysia)
If you notice, Skydancer has many posts on a lot of threads- all meaningless and all foolish. He has no life, - really what a looser!!
But what a pity i was hoping Skydancer would blow his horn more. ! After all he keeps giving us accounts of :"bar talk" and his version of events making it so obvious he is a fool trying to coerce other fools to scream- ( reminds me a bit of a youth group recently in Malaysia
)If you notice, Skydancer has many posts on a lot of threads- all meaningless and all foolish. He has no life, - really what a looser!!
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Well things seemed to have really gone quiet when I decided to lay low.To my friends Debbie and Rain all I have to say is read well the posts that I have written in the past especially relating to this thread.You might want to change some of your opinions.My interest has always been to know what went wrong with MH 653.I don't recall bringing up the names of the concerned individuals for the first time here,they've been brought up a couple of times already and I just wanted to know more about them for my own reasons.Debbie before you go around threatening people and accusing them of being racist , take a look in the mirror buddy.You're everything that you accuse us of being, if not worse.Rain you seem to be well versed with the legal system...just a word of advice , there's a lot more to it that you think...and remember the world of the internet is big bad and ugly....there are things you think you know but you don't ....
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wrong again
NST) - Datuk Dr Maximus Ongkili yesterday lodged a report against Malaysia Today editor Raja Petra Kamarudin over two articles posted on the website.
Ongkili claimed the two postings, on Monday and Tuesday, were defamatory.
"I did what was necessary. I've made a police report against the editor and writer of the posts," he said after launching Petrosains' dinosaur exhibition, DinoTrek 2, at Suria KLCC.
Ongkili said a police investigation officer from Putrajaya recorded his statement at his office at 8.30am.
AND THAT WAS OF A PERSONAL NATURE.
SO SKYDANCER- YES THE INTERNET IS AN UGLY PLACE AND YOU MAY THINK YOU CAN HIDE BEHIND YOUR PROFILE NAME, BUT YOU ARE WRONG !- EVERYONE ON FORUMS HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO AVOID MAKING DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS !
Ongkili claimed the two postings, on Monday and Tuesday, were defamatory.
"I did what was necessary. I've made a police report against the editor and writer of the posts," he said after launching Petrosains' dinosaur exhibition, DinoTrek 2, at Suria KLCC.
Ongkili said a police investigation officer from Putrajaya recorded his statement at his office at 8.30am.
AND THAT WAS OF A PERSONAL NATURE.
SO SKYDANCER- YES THE INTERNET IS AN UGLY PLACE AND YOU MAY THINK YOU CAN HIDE BEHIND YOUR PROFILE NAME, BUT YOU ARE WRONG !- EVERYONE ON FORUMS HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO AVOID MAKING DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS !
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Yo, what have we here. A couple of weeks away from the PC and what have we here; a congenital liar posting heaps in defence of that kondehless miscreant. Well let the legal action begin and we will see what poo and kaka will come out. Heard from the grapevine that someone has procured info and picture of the engine prang in somewhere in Japan and JCAB is mighty interested. Someone who took voluntary seperation had obtained and squirelled away some documents pertaining to the double dipping, these are some cheap amno for the defence, the heavy artillery are being kept secret of course.
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keep it up
Finally MT - drawn you out from the hole you were hiding in.
Keep going- say some names please- and why not do the Mat thing and SAY your name as well!!!
Keep going- say some names please- and why not do the Mat thing and SAY your name as well!!!
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Ha Ha debby- you are the funny guy
Who are you?? you seem to know too much.
But have you heard about Mat Tonkang s case??- ask any FO about his recent screw up. !!!
Just another MALAYsia pilot.AS you said before....... he aint the best operator.
Im sure you have heard about it anyway- !! i have guessed who you are by the way. - smart guy huh- well remember i said nothing , so dont sue me- your focus is the MATS!!
Who are you?? you seem to know too much.
But have you heard about Mat Tonkang s case??- ask any FO about his recent screw up. !!!
Just another MALAYsia pilot.AS you said before....... he aint the best operator.
Im sure you have heard about it anyway- !! i have guessed who you are by the way. - smart guy huh- well remember i said nothing , so dont sue me- your focus is the MATS!!
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These celaka fellas seriously think that I gonna sit around the PC waiting on pprune forum all the time....hey, you think MT and I are hiding? Please do and keep on gloating you imbeciles! There are webmasters tracking you too. For the celaka fellas, the sandpit and the subcontinent are very big places and we have killer rosters which take one away for long stretches with no time nor inclination to reply to your purile posts. Anyway the recent ramblings have uncovered something; guys back at MAS, you got a celaka kecik to deal with. He surely will dig, dig, dig. Make sure he gets to 6 ft under.
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MasMamak- relak la brudder!!
Debby is just trying to get you all to post stuff you will regret.-I know him, be careful, power that runs high and pockets that run deep.
As for the sandpit- well your rosters that good......hmmmmm.....really??
LETS FACE IT, IF YOU HAD A CHOICE, I AM SURE YOU WOULD NOT BE THERE, AND IF THE NEW CA DID NOT PROHIBIT YOU ALL FROM RETURNING I AM SURE ALL OF YOU WOULD BE BACK IN MAS( WITH THE NEW PAY SCHEME).
Debby is just trying to get you all to post stuff you will regret.-I know him, be careful, power that runs high and pockets that run deep.
As for the sandpit- well your rosters that good......hmmmmm.....really??
LETS FACE IT, IF YOU HAD A CHOICE, I AM SURE YOU WOULD NOT BE THERE, AND IF THE NEW CA DID NOT PROHIBIT YOU ALL FROM RETURNING I AM SURE ALL OF YOU WOULD BE BACK IN MAS( WITH THE NEW PAY SCHEME).
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Sky Dancer:
Capt.G.K.Ganjoor, age: 43 yrs, married four children. With MAS since MSA days (1971). Trained in Seattle after joining MAS. Total flying hours 15,500.
F/O Kamaruzaman Jalil, age: 25 yrs. Single. Joined MAS 4th June, 1974. Promoted to B737 4th October 1976. Trained in Curug, Indonesia. Total flying hours 1,866. With Royal Military College 1970-72.
Capt.G.K.Ganjoor, age: 43 yrs, married four children. With MAS since MSA days (1971). Trained in Seattle after joining MAS. Total flying hours 15,500.
F/O Kamaruzaman Jalil, age: 25 yrs. Single. Joined MAS 4th June, 1974. Promoted to B737 4th October 1976. Trained in Curug, Indonesia. Total flying hours 1,866. With Royal Military College 1970-72.
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Ha Ha - Mamak really got your sarong in a knot eh???
Well since you are so busy flying on your LOOOOOOOOOOOng patterns- ( p.s- the whole forum is laughing ,as we all know that aint true!!)- then maybe you wont have time to gossip like a bapok .
If you post negative comments with names about individuals, be man enough to post your real name.
As you are already swimming in the waters of future litigation i advise you to lower your blood pressure and concentrate on your weak aviation knowledge and operations.
All the sand must have entered your brain- if its so great there - why is your family always complaining???
Well since you are so busy flying on your LOOOOOOOOOOOng patterns- ( p.s- the whole forum is laughing ,as we all know that aint true!!)- then maybe you wont have time to gossip like a bapok .
If you post negative comments with names about individuals, be man enough to post your real name.
As you are already swimming in the waters of future litigation i advise you to lower your blood pressure and concentrate on your weak aviation knowledge and operations.
All the sand must have entered your brain- if its so great there - why is your family always complaining???