Hijacked MAS flight MH 653 on 4th December 1977
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Which was it the Minister or the bodyguard............
I'll go with the Minister..............Was the Gomen investigating him for corruption????
There was a previous incident involving this Minister and his bodyguard and Babu in Penang regarding the surrendering of the bodyguards weapon. I believe the flight was substantially delayed and eventually the weapon was locked away in the diplomatic locker. But on that fateful day the same thing happened and because it was his anniversary Babu allowed the weapon to be carried on board rather than accept a lengthy delay. A fatal mistake by an incredibly talented and nice man who was the consummate professional.
God bless the souls of all,
Wooblah.
I'll go with the Minister..............Was the Gomen investigating him for corruption????There was a previous incident involving this Minister and his bodyguard and Babu in Penang regarding the surrendering of the bodyguards weapon. I believe the flight was substantially delayed and eventually the weapon was locked away in the diplomatic locker. But on that fateful day the same thing happened and because it was his anniversary Babu allowed the weapon to be carried on board rather than accept a lengthy delay. A fatal mistake by an incredibly talented and nice man who was the consummate professional.
God bless the souls of all,
Wooblah.
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Babu made a fatal mistake..........let us all learn from that. Allow absolutely no weapons onboard, period. No matter what, VIP, Agung, sky marshalls, Lord of the world.........no one can have any weapons on a commercial flight!!! NOT C4 of course....shudder, shudder, shudder!!
Mascamel, I don't think she was conned of any insurance payout ( eventhough that wouldn't have been a surprise knowing the slimy low life involved ); rather she was robbed of her honour and self esteem.
Mascamel, I don't think she was conned of any insurance payout ( eventhough that wouldn't have been a surprise knowing the slimy low life involved ); rather she was robbed of her honour and self esteem.
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Oh gosh, has been 30 years! Time really gets by in a jeffy! My utmost respect for Babu,what a wonderful man he was. Whilst I cannot confirm Kondaless baie swindled Mrs. Ganjur of her husbands insurance payout, at the same time I not prepared to rule it out. That Kondaless snake was capable of anything. I do agree Mrs.Ganjur was robbed off more - honor and self esteem!
If I ever get to KL, the one person I would like to meet up for beers & chat is the FE that gave Kondaless a face job.
If I ever get to KL, the one person I would like to meet up for beers & chat is the FE that gave Kondaless a face job.
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[quote][/If I ever get to KL, the one person I would like to meet up for beers & chat is the FE that gave Kondaless a face job]quote
Me too, love to join you. The kondehless reptile should get another face job soon.........just heard from someone in kimchiland that he tried bullying the saintly LMY ( our ex MAS DC-10 sifu ) over in Seoul, contributing to a stressful outbreak of leukemia for the nice and saintly old goat. I sincerely wish LMY the best of health and speedy recovery.
Me too, love to join you. The kondehless reptile should get another face job soon.........just heard from someone in kimchiland that he tried bullying the saintly LMY ( our ex MAS DC-10 sifu ) over in Seoul, contributing to a stressful outbreak of leukemia for the nice and saintly old goat. I sincerely wish LMY the best of health and speedy recovery.
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Hi, do you mean LMY of Klang? If so, he was indeed the most patient and accommodating instructor I ever had on the jumbo classic. Man, that guy was indeed a saint, I would not have survived transition on the classics if not for this chap. Hope he gets well soon, any word on how to get in touch with him?
As for the pariah bai, hey watch out.....I gonna restructure your pundeh face if you even try to do that to LMY again!!!
As for the pariah bai, hey watch out.....I gonna restructure your pundeh face if you even try to do that to LMY again!!!
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Errr, I thought Looney Loong was medically boarded out due to a heart problem ( extreme tachycardia, I believe ), not leukemia. I don't think that punjabi braggart dared to bully Loong..you guys must have been mistaken.
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Hi Barney, you old dinosaur.........me thinks they ain't talking about Looney Loong . The LMY they referred to is nice little fella who retired, not medically grounded. This gentlemean was a delight to fly with, humble and unassuming. Did hear something about some bad blood between he and the nastie alluded to....didn't someone hit that chap in KUL sometime ago? It would be nice if someone indeed restructured that Freddy Kruger nose!
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Some ex kimchiland denizen confirmed that pundeh bai got fellow ball-less fellas to otracize LMY because he was not greeted and addressed as " latuk ". MAPA took out full page advert to congratulate him as " latuk " but the small little fella LMY did not snap to attention and addressed the " latuk " when he showed up in kimchiland.....what a pee brain. Jandakot is right, what the f**k were MAS pilots thinking when he was elected MAPA prez? Alas, my MAPA subscription was badly wasted on the f**king congratulatory advert!!
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Aiyoyo; fellas up probably exhibited pack behaviour, when one makes a kill the rest comes in to feed on the scraps. Typical school boyish behaviour, the bully hits a smaller chap the other scamps cheer on. If only someone give the pariah a bloody nose, poor LMY would not have endured stress and humiliation. F**k those latuks, scums of society and yet those without balls defer to them.
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Alas, most think this is an old story to be consigned to the garbage bin.............truly sad. Much can be learned, but operationally as well as in the theatre of human decency. After thirty years, the statute of limitation on official secrets should have long expired and the government should come clean on the events leading to the tragedy.
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Was the kondeless latuk trying to comfort the widow or was he looking for a comfort woman ? How about the bollywood comfort woman he paraded around with during someone's b'day bash sometime ago?
Ya, we all failed to see why our subscription riggits were squandered in the Mapa advert. Anyway we all know Mapa ain't the paragon of good moral ethics, so.........
Ya, we all failed to see why our subscription riggits were squandered in the Mapa advert. Anyway we all know Mapa ain't the paragon of good moral ethics, so.........
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g-string?
Isn't this the chap who claimed to be a royal titled bloke who tried to fleece someone a couple years ago with fast track recruitment to Jet Airways? Now that Jet is almost belly up, those who got fleeced should go after his skin..........not only they lost money but the future doesn't look too bright.
In the land of the Rising Sun, the veteran pilots here don't have any recollection of the Japanese Red Army having any role in the MH653 hijack. However they did mention something about hostage taking in some AIG building in KUL in the 70s.
In the land of the Rising Sun, the veteran pilots here don't have any recollection of the Japanese Red Army having any role in the MH653 hijack. However they did mention something about hostage taking in some AIG building in KUL in the 70s.
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The Japanese Red army thingy was a red herring made up to cover the tracks of the corrupted in the then M'sian govt. The PM then, however, did a nice thing...priests and religious heads from all the religions freely administered the last rites to the victims. It was a grand gesture of goodwill, which, alas, was not extended to other facets of Malaysian life.
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Ganjoor certainly made the mistake of not standing his ground.......not guns onboard. To say that he had to do what he was told to do is disingenuous; he was reputed to be responsible and consummate commander.
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Referring to the Thread of Captain Wooblah, 2nd of January 2009: I do not think a minister will travel twice in one day from Penang to KL. I believe the incident where Ganjoor stood his ground and got his way happened a year before the Hijacking. Babasinkeh what would you say to people who think he allowed the weapons in the cabin because it was his birthday?
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Sunnyboy,
It was a long time ago but if memory serves me correctly there were two separate incidents separated by approximately one year involving the same minister and his bodyguard. In the first incident Babu stood his ground and the flight was delayed approx one hour and the weapon was finally placed in the locker.
Referring to the second fateful incident it was indeed the same passengers inflicting the same problem. And if memory serves me correctly again it was not his Birthday but rather his wedding anniversary hence his reluctance to delay the flight. Further to this I believe that the first incident approx a year earlier was quite ugly and did cause some repercussions to the staff members involved. who, I must add did the right thing. As you are aware these minister cronie types can and do throw their weight around usually involving some buddy in a position of power within the airline looking for favours such as his worthless datukship.
Wooblah.
It was a long time ago but if memory serves me correctly there were two separate incidents separated by approximately one year involving the same minister and his bodyguard. In the first incident Babu stood his ground and the flight was delayed approx one hour and the weapon was finally placed in the locker.
Referring to the second fateful incident it was indeed the same passengers inflicting the same problem. And if memory serves me correctly again it was not his Birthday but rather his wedding anniversary hence his reluctance to delay the flight. Further to this I believe that the first incident approx a year earlier was quite ugly and did cause some repercussions to the staff members involved. who, I must add did the right thing. As you are aware these minister cronie types can and do throw their weight around usually involving some buddy in a position of power within the airline looking for favours such as his worthless datukship.
Wooblah.
